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The Future of Melee

Laijin

Smash Hero
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Best Solution:

Step 1: Record yourself playing matches or tournament matches.
Step 2: Post it in the respective character board
Step 3: Receive feedback.
This method has been working and working well since like 04 lol.
 

Fly_Amanita

Master of Caribou
Joined
Aug 24, 2007
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Claremont, CA
Something worth mentioning is that being able to figure things out on your own is a valuable skill in itself. Asking others what you can be doing better and listening to criticism is fine, but if you can't figure out how to solve a lot of problems on your own, then you probably won't really understand why the solutions proposed by good players are good. I've met a few smashers who ask for advice all the time and consequently know how to superficially resemble a good player, but are nonetheless terrible in spite of having played for quite a while because they don't really fundamentally understand how and when to apply the myriad of things they know.

Granted, that's not the first thing I'd tell a new player and I'd probably never bring it up unless I feel like s/he is trying to improve solely through the efforts of others.
 

Laijin

Smash Hero
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^^^

This 100%.
Copying other players frequently for everything you do is not the best idea. Sure you'll become good, but essentially you will never be great.
Look at this way: All the top players right now have their own unique playstyles for the most part. A lot of the good players copy said playstyles, but have never reached the status of "top" player(I'm using these words for lack of better words haha).

tl;dr: Its a good idea to learn things on your own as well and develop your own play style. You will improve better this way. There is no guaranteed formula for what you should always do in most situations. So its best that through experience you figure out what works best for you
 

Vigilante

Smash Lord
Joined
Dec 11, 2010
Messages
1,813
Location
Quebec
One piece of advice, if you lose, shake hands with the victor, tell him it was fun. Be friendly, and maybe you can exchange emails. Making friends with better players is a good way to get good. In Melee, I though I was good when I first started, then got a rival of comparable skill. I got better playing him. Then it happened again when I played a better one. You really only get as good as you need to be to win. So if you're in a situation where you're playing weaker players all the time, you won't be motivated to improve, because:

1) They may tired of losing and stop playing.
2) You won't need to work very hard to win.

I don't need to wavedash, L-Cancel, or even shine combo to beat my best friend for example, so I never bothered until I got into some tourneys. We're very lazy poeple at heart, XD.
 

Divinokage

Smash Legend
Joined
Aug 6, 2006
Messages
16,250
Location
Montreal, Quebec
One piece of advice, if you lose, shake hands with the victor, tell him it was fun. Be friendly, and maybe you can exchange emails. Making friends with better players is a good way to get good. In Melee, I though I was good when I first started, then got a rival of comparable skill. I got better playing him. Then it happened again when I played a better one. You really only get as good as you need to be to win. So if you're in a situation where you're playing weaker players all the time, you won't be motivated to improve, because:

1) They may tired of losing and stop playing.
2) You won't need to work very hard to win.

I don't need to wavedash, L-Cancel, or even shine combo to beat my best friend for example, so I never bothered until I got into some tourneys. We're very lazy poeple at heart, XD.
Is that all, Quebec got? Step it up! Play more beat the crap out of each other! Try new things.
 

Vigilante

Smash Lord
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Dec 11, 2010
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Quebec
Oh, I got good after I while because I ventured away from my circle of friends and got to meet good players. The point was that if I had stayed arounf my two and a half friends in my little suburb in the middle of nowhere, I wouls never have needed to improve to achieve victory. Meeting new players where there is ab active community goes a long way in giving you incentive to get better. But Montreal fails at tourneys now, and I'm retired considering I,m a lab rat now. I haven't seen one in ages and only play poeple outside of the whole tourney deal. One of the annoying things about getting old.

Now I'm stuck playing poeple at anime conventions x_x.

I'm a bit rusty, but I'll try to pick it up again with Project M. I'll just find poeple via Wifi or something. Since you're from Montreal, I could probably play you sometimes.
 
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