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The Evil Minish Vaati is reborn for SSB4!-Sign the Petition to Add Vaati to Hyrule Warriors!

CrypticSpark

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I never said they were the same sword, if that's what you're implying. Now, before you hate on me, I never finished Four Swords (I'm going to get to it this summer after Minish Cap and a few Metroid Games). It's just something I saw when I was browsing to find an image of Vaati.
Watch this video, of Vaati being sealed in the blade from Four swords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaEMT5jS_l0#t=6m50s

Then watch this (Vaati's defeat in minish cap)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Hun76zfi8#t=5m

In the first video he's clearly sealed into the sword, and even though Four Swords game was made 1st Minish Cap is the 1st in the series of games with Vaati (in the official timeline), Minish cap was made after Four Swords and Four Swords adventure.



Quote taken from http://zeldawiki.org/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Minish_Cap
Meanwhile, Vaati had brainwashed King Daltus and shrouded Hyrule Castle in darkness. He had discovered that the sacred Light Force had actually been passed down through Hyrule’s princesses, and so he prepared to extract the Light Force from Princess Zelda. Link rushed to her rescue, and, after vanquishing Vaati, he used the Four Sword’s evil-banishing power to restore Princess Zelda.

Now that Vaati had fallen, the Mage's Cap could be used to restore Hyrule. Princess Zelda put on the cap and wished with all her heart that Vaati’s cruelty might be undone. With her righteous wish and the power of the Light Force that still dwells within her, many miracles happened as a result.

Either they clearly didn't state Vaati was locked in the Four Swords after Minish cap, or there's a game yet to be made which explains why he was stealing girls. But if I was to take a guess, the whole stealing girls thing was just a back story they made for Vaati to build character. Couldn't find a good enough source for Vaati's history based on Minish Cap, but I found this, which is close enough

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/handheld-zelda/18822-vaatis-story-spoilers.html (though some of it is guess work filling in gaps). Saying that I personally recommend you play Minish cap 1st. It was part of the free game program if you got the 3DS before a certain date.
 
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Watch this video, of Vaati being sealed in the blade from Four swords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaEMT5jS_l0#t=6m50s

Then watch this (Vaati's defeat in minish cap)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Hun76zfi8#t=5m

In the first video he's clearly sealed into the sword, and even though Four Swords game was made 1st Minish Cap is the 1st in the series of games with Vaati (in the official timeline), Minish cap was made after Four Swords and Four Swords adventure.



Quote taken from http://zeldawiki.org/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Minish_Cap



Either they clearly didn't state Vaati was locked in the Four Swords after Minish cap, or there's a game yet to be made which explains why he was stealing girls. But if I was to take a guess, the whole stealing girls thing was just a back story they made for Vaati to build character. Couldn't find a good enough source for Vaati's history based on Minish Cap, but I found this, which is close enough

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/handheld-zelda/18822-vaatis-story-spoilers.html (though some of it is guess work filling in gaps). Saying that I personally recommend you play Minish cap 1st. It was part of the free game program if you got the 3DS before a certain date.
Judging by what you said, I think you misinterprited my original point. I was just trying to say that both Fi and Vaati were sealed in swords at one point in time...

I know the order of the timeline and that Vaati was released.


EDIT: Yeah, the ambassador program is how I got. Minish Cap.
 
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Sorry I thought you were implying that Ghirahim was imprisoned in his sword form (which later became known as the four sword), and was reborn as Vaati.
 

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Sorry I thought you were implying that Ghirahim was imprisoned in his sword form (which later became known as the four sword), and was reborn as Vaati.
No, but that would be a cool twist for a Zelda game
 

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Would Vaati be a character that specializes in zoning players when it comes to battles? Any type of characters that Vaati players should look out for?
 

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Hey guys, according to this list how would Vaati's moveset be classified? (hybrid classes are possible):

Zoner - Character whose strength lies in forcing their opponent to stay in a certain area. Ex: :4marth:

Ranger - Character whose strength lies in their ranged attacks to force opponents to keep their distance. Ex: :4link:

Speedster - Character whose strength lies in their speed and ability to overwhelm their opponents with relentless attacks. Ex: :4pikachu:

Trickster - Character whose strength lies in a quirky moveset that is hard to predict and can alter the battle field. Ex: :4villager:

Bruiser - Character whose strength lies in devastating attacks to quickly finish off opponents. Ex: :4falcon:

Resistor - Character whose strength lies in super armor that allows them to tank hits to strike down opponents. Ex: :4bowser:

Puppeteer - Character whose strength lies in overwhelming opponents with relentless attacks stopping opponents from striking back. Strength in numbers. Ex: :rosalina:

Juggler - Character whose strength lies in being able to string combos together to finish off opponents. Ex: :4luigi:
 

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Hey guys, according to this list how would Vaati's moveset be classified? (hybrid classes are possible):

Zoner - Character whose strength lies in forcing their opponent to stay in a certain area. Ex: :4marth:

Ranger - Character whose strength lies in their ranged attacks to force opponents to keep their distance. Ex: :4link:

Speedster - Character whose strength lies in their speed and ability to overwhelm their opponents with relentless attacks. Ex: :4pikachu:

Trickster - Character whose strength lies in a quirky moveset that is hard to predict and can alter the battle field. Ex: :4villager:

Bruiser - Character whose strength lies in devastating attacks to quickly finish off opponents. Ex: :4falcon:

Resistor - Character whose strength lies in super armor that allows them to tank hits to strike down opponents. Ex: :4bowser:

Puppeteer - Character whose strength lies in overwhelming opponents with relentless attacks stopping opponents from striking back. Strength in numbers. Ex: :rosalina:

Juggler - Character whose strength lies in being able to string combos together to finish off opponents. Ex: :4luigi:
Obviously a puppetier.:troll:

But, I think Ranger seems the most likely, but I don't really know what you mean by "forcing their opponent to stay in a certain area" though.
 

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Obviously a puppetier.:troll:

But, I think Ranger seems the most likely, but I don't really know what you mean by "forcing their opponent to stay in a certain area" though.
It is like controlling your opponent. A Ranger's strength is the ability to keep opponents from getting close.
 

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Sorry I thought you were implying that Ghirahim was imprisoned in his sword form (which later became known as the four sword), and was reborn as Vaati.
I believe there is a theory to this extent. Someone on somewhere posted it :p It involved a long explanation to Midna, Ghirahim, Vaati, and a few others. Quite a read to me as I've only played a few Zelda games myself.

EDIT: Yeah, the ambassador program is how I got. Minish Cap.
Hmm when did you get yours, how did you find that out? Lucky Bast***
 

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Hmm when did you get yours, how did you find that out? Lucky Bast***
I got my 3DS within the first year of release, more specifically on Memorial Day (I had finally saved up enough money at that yard sale). After they announced the price drop, you could go online to the website and enter the code on the back of your 3DS and that would get you 20 unreleased (at the time) VC games loaded into your eShop account. Among those were Minish Cap and Metroid Fusion (I've been playing those two recently)
 

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I got my 3DS within the first year of release, more specifically on Memorial Day (I had finally saved up enough money at that yard sale). After they announced the price drop, you could go online to the website and enter the code on the back of your 3DS and that would get you 20 unreleased (at the time) VC games loaded into your eShop account. Among those were Minish Cap and Metroid Fusion (I've been playing those two recently)
Damn. Wish I had paid attention to that- TWENTY free games? That is pretty remarkable, that is the kind of deal I was looking for to get the system before I did (ended up not getting mine until early last year). That makes up for the price dramatically.
 

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Damn. Wish I had paid attention to that- TWENTY free games? That is pretty remarkable, that is the kind of deal I was looking for to get the system before I did (ended up not getting mine until early last year). That makes up for the price dramatically.
10 NES and 10 GBA games but they were preselected so you didn't get to choose
 

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Hyrule Warriors Direct imminent. Good time to confirm Vaati for both games?

Or at least confirm ganondorf for smash.
 
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My most wanted Zelda newcomer is Ghirahim, but I can be very happy if Vaati gets his deserved slot...

Still, I think the characters that are obstacles for Vaati are Toon Zelda/Tetra and Ghirahim. I don't think Impa or another character can represent a big danger for Vaati (but still represent danger, since Sakurai can still threw a curve ball Zelda newcomer like Great Fairy LOL)
 

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Can we please get Vaati for Hyrule Warriors already?
According to earlier posts on this page it seems Hyrule Warriors is only going with the characters from Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword, so that's unlikely.

If they made a four player sequel... possibly with four sword link.. Vaati would be a shoo in?
 

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The news that Hyrule Warriors will only focus on Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword is pretty saddening.

I was fairly confident in Vaati appearing as a villain...maybe even a playable one. I really wanted to see a 'realistic' redesign Vaati alongside the other Zelda villains. Feels like a missed opportunity.

I bit the bullet the today and bought Minish Cap on VC. I can barely claim to be a Vaati fan if all my experience with him comes purely from Four Swords / Adventures. Time to learn more about my favourite Zelda antagonist.
 

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The news that Hyrule Warriors will only focus on Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword is pretty saddening.

I was fairly confident in Vaati appearing as a villain...maybe even a playable one. I really wanted to see a 'realistic' redesign Vaati alongside the other Zelda villains. Feels like a missed opportunity.

I bit the bullet the today and bought Minish Cap on VC. I can barely claim to be a Vaati fan if all my experience with him comes purely from Four Swords / Adventures. Time to learn more about my favourite Zelda antagonist.
Well, I haven't really played any of Vaati's games (I've barely played Minish Cap and 4 Swords Anniversary) and I'm considered his biggest supporter, so I think it's possible to claim that your a Vaati fan.

Also, with HW, I'm thinking that there will be other elements from different games, because we have the Wind Waker and the Moon from Majora's Mask, so I'm guessing the stages will just be focused around Oot, TP, and SS.
 

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Well, I haven't really played any of Vaati's games (I've barely played Minish Cap and 4 Swords Anniversary) and I'm considered his biggest supporter, so I think it's possible to claim that your a Vaati fan.

Also, with HW, I'm thinking that there will be other elements from different games, because we have the Wind Waker and the Moon from Majora's Mask, so I'm guessing the stages will just be focused around Oot, TP, and SS.
Well, if that's the case, bring on the wind mage.... And let me use the four sword in a 3d zelda style game.
 

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I honestly feel if Vaati were playable.


This wouldn't be playable.


This would be.
 

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I think the first form from Minish Cap where he looks like a taller version of Toon Vaati with the giant Eye in his torso would be the playable one with a lot of the shadow bats and eyes as his moves. Personally.
 

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Hi, people. I've been watching this thread for awhile, and would like to be included on the supporter list.
I have been thinking for a while that Vaati would be the best choice for a sixth Zelda rep, but I was thinking that Ghiraheim would bethe one taking the spot, being the most recent and all, thus not making me having the courage to ask if I can be counted in.

That was of course, until today's pic.
This PoTD greatly boosts Vaati's chances, and now I really want to be part of the discussion.(bit of a cheat I know, should've signed up earlier)
Mind if I ask to be counted among the Vaati supporters?
 

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Hi, people. I've been watching this thread for awhile, and would like to be included on the supporter list.
I have been thinking for a while that Vaati would be the best choice for a sixth Zelda rep, but I was thinking that Ghiraheim would bethe one taking the spot, being the most recent and all, thus not making me having the courage to ask if I can be counted in.

That was of course, until today's pic.
This PoTD greatly boosts Vaati's chances, and now I really want to be part of the discussion.(bit of a cheat I know, should've signed up earlier)
Mind if I ask to be counted among the Vaati supporters?
No time is ever too late to be added onto the supporters list. (Unless he's already confirmed/deconfirmed, but that a different story)

Honestly, I think this helps him a lot too, only competition I see for Vaati now is Impa, which is always good news for me. :grin:
 

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Vaati has certainly moved up in the line now that all the other choices barring Impa and toonclones were made into assist. Still, we don't know if Zelda will even get a newcomer this game. Time will tell.
 
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