The Doc's and Mario's FAIR

[TheJalapeno]

Why is the Doc's more effective as a kill move, Mario's spikes, and that's good if you want a for real kill, but I like to throw out FAIR's in mid air and when I play Doc it usually kills at mid-High percentages if you bring the opponent far up enough.

Just curious

 

[iMichael]

Mario's is a meteor smash not a spike. You have to have good timing on Mario's Fair or else that could lead to some ugly sh*t. As for Doc, he doesn't have to be off the stage for it to kill. So lets see...Mario has to be off the stage to kill and its hard to execute unless you have good timing(can be avoided with an airdodge onto the stage). Doc can execute his on the stage and will send your a** flying. Mario can do his on the stage, dont get me wrong, then you can Fsmash or combo into that.

 

[Cereal Rabbit]

Little List...

Doc's Fair (Pros):

• Amazing knockback
• Can be a combo finisher
• A good attack to punish opponents for lag
• High High Damage

Doc's Fair (Cons):

• Slightly Slow

Mario's Fair (Pros):

• A "Moderate"Meteor Smash, not the worst but not near the best.
• Might link up to combos (Depends on DI and Damage)
• Does high (?) Damage

Mario's Fair (Cons):

• Off stage Fairs equals SD
• Little Knockback(Like Falco's Dair)
• Slow? Laggy Landing

 

[d2Law89]

--------------- Landing Recovery --------- L-Cancelled
Dr. Mario ----------- 25 ---------------------- 12
Mario -------------- 21 -----------------------10

Mario's F-Air in comparison to other characters in terms of speed: His F-air is slower than 9 Characters by a maximum of 3 frames. [Falcon, Ness, Samus, Zelda, Sheik, Link, Y.Link, Pichu, Marth]

I think its pretty fast.

 

[The Noob Legend]

Whenever I try Mario's F-Air offstage, I fall to my death.

I'd only try offstage if I had 2 lives and my opponent was on his last

 

[Ace83]

Off-stage Fairs with mario doesn't mean you SD. You can definitely get back from it.. the computer level 9 even does. Just don't use both jumps before the Fair.

 

[TheJalapeno]

I can get back after F-Air'ing usually but it's a little risky.

I know Mario's is a meteor Smash, it's good for combo'ing sure, but I wish it was more of a kill move

 

[iMichael]

I can get back after F-Air'ing usually but it's a little risky.

I know Mario's is a meteor Smash, it's good for combo'ing sure, but I wish it was more of a kill move

Yeah...Mario kind of lacks a kill move.

 

[d2Law89]

Here are the ways you can surive using fair off the edge:

1: Short hop fair (no fast fall)
2: Full jumped fair (fast fall possible)
3: Full jumped fair, second jumped fair (no fast fall)

I suggest...better edgeguarding moves. LoL.

Down Smash and Forward Smash are pretty good to K.O. with-- then there's bair spam .

 

[Paranormalsin]

Yeah...Mario kind of lacks a kill move.

what he lacks in a kill move he makes up for haveing a mustache. =D
plus, mario is a combo machine so if you do it right, as proven by boss, even marios up-b can kill