The Classical Public Domain BRSTM Project

[Daftatt]

Since twitch has started scanning for copyrighted music (and youtube has been bugging smash uploaders about it for a while now), I figured I'll start compiling some public domain music in the aims of making a completely free to use BRSTM pack for P:M for any streamer who doesn't want any hassle from either copyright claims on the stock music, or their own custom music.

The pack will consist of edited music (edited for theme, removal of boring sections, and looping) that is either free to use under its license or written prior to 1922, and thereby in the public domain. All songs will loop perfectly, or near perfectly (easier said than done).

I'll be posting lots of potential candidates, so please post suggestions on songs, on what stages songs should go on (if you disagree), or even your own edits!

BATTLEFIELD: Grand Orchestral Music with a hint of whimsy
FINAL DESTINATION: Grand Orchestral Music with a darker more sinister tone
WARIO WARE: Early Peppy Jazz, or Big Band/Marching music with good swing
FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS: Soft, moving piano pieces, think early 20th century french impressionism

CURRENTLY WORKING ON

RECENT SONGS

https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fpublic-domain-brstm%2Fbeni-mora-op-29-smashville https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fpublic-domain-brstm%2Fmoonlight-sonata-fountain-of-dreams https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fpublic-domain-brstm%2Fsuite-no-1-for-military-band-dreamland https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fpublic-domain-brstm%2Fw07-larlesienne-farandole-smashville https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fpublic-domain-brstm%2Fcello-suite-no-1-smashville https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fpublic-domain-brstm%2Fjupiter-the-bringer-of-jolly-dreamland

 

[Daftatt]

SONGLIST
BATTLEFIELD
The Sorcerer's Apprentice
Carmen Suite No. 2
Flight of the Bumblebees
Hungarian Dance No 1
Scene De Feerie

WARIO WARE
Slim Trombone

FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS
Clair De Lune
Gnossienne No 4
Moonlight Sonata

DREAMLAND
Jupiter The Bringer of Jolly
Suite No. 1 for Military Band

SMASHVILLE
Fantasia on Dargason
Cello Suite No 1
L'Arlésienne Farandole

FINAL DESTINATION
Mars The Bringer of War
Ma Vlast - Sarka
Beni Mora Op. 29

 

[Kidneyjoe]

One question. If a song was written before 1922 are performances of it recorded after 1922 still considered public domain?

 

[Daftatt]

One question. If a song was written before 1922 are performances of it recorded after 1922 still considered public domain?

Yes, err kind of, derivatives (like a cover of a song) is considered it's own intellectual property and may not be public domain.

However for things like concert performances of classical compositions, the DRM song scanners can't discern between one person's performance or another, so for all intents and purposes it would be public domain for this BRSTM pack

 

[JCOnyx]

That's the major problem with this concept. The source material might be in the public domain, but the recordings themselves are actually covered under another copyright.

But as Daftatt just said, and ninja'd me in the process, most scanners won't be able to pick up on the differences so everything should be in the clear. I seriously hope we won't have to resort to such extreme measures though... Even so, I plan on suggesting some possible tracks for this project of yours since I could dig some classical tunes with my smash.

 

[Daftatt]

That's the major problem with this concept. The source material might be in the public domain, but the recordings themselves are actually covered under another copyright.

But as Daftatt just said, and ninja'd me in the process, most scanners won't be able to pick up on the differences so everything should be in the clear. I seriously hope we won't have to resort to such extreme measures though... Even so, I plan on suggesting some possible tracks for this project of yours since I could dig some classical tunes with my smash.

Yeah, I'm with you on hoping we don't need it too. However, nintendo tracks have been picked up by the twitch scanners and muted, so this is just a preemptive measure. Also, pre-1920s smash music, that could be neat-o.

 

[JCOnyx]

Aww man, you already picked Clair de Lune for FoD which I was going to recommend. I also would like to nominate the first movement of La Mer or perhaps Nocturne as fitting pieces. You can't go wrong with Debussy.

 

[Daftatt]

BAD NEWS. It's happening, and yes it's stock music.

 

[Ultimate Sneeze]

THIS IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA

So are these four stages the only ones you want new music on for your streams? Or is the pack going to include music for all stages?

Also, it sucks that its 1922, two more years and we could get Rhapsody in Blue by Gershwin.

 

[Deleted member]

Look cool, it's kind of like the music pack that I'm working on too. The only difference is that every single one of my songs are copyright, woo!

 

[infomon]

Note that we don't require public domain, but some Creative Commons licenses would be fine as well.

OC Remixes appear to be tricky:
http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy

Seems like that would be not allowed by twitch. I use adblock so honestly I don't know how much twitch streams are required to have ads or if they can have no-ad streams that don't also beg for paid-subscriptions? idk...

 

[Lopson]

Regardless of whether or not an automated copyright system is used on today's hosting services, this is still a really neat idea. A shame that the system currently being used by Twitch (and by extension, Google) is already giving false positives, this being especially bad in Twitch's case due to it not having a rebuttal system in place.

 

[Daftatt]

THIS IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA

So are these four stages the only ones you want new music on for your streams? Or is the pack going to include music for all stages?

Also, it sucks that its 1922, two more years and we could get Rhapsody in Blue by Gershwin.

Yeah, all stages on the main stage select screen for P:M atm. It takes a while to clean up classical music for dynamics and make it loop. Also, I had the exact same thought about Rhapsody in Blue, however that song won't be public domain for a while now, as I believe it's copyright was extended to 95 years, so 2019.

EDIT: I just finished cleaning up Clair de lune, removing the white noise and making it loop much more smoothly. Also Bolero by Ravel isn't in public domain... ugh.

But flight of the bumblebees by korsakov is :D

 

[Kosyne]

There are also resources for (relatively) modern music that is PD or CC.
I've heard Kevin McLeod's music in quite a few places, and jamendo lets you search by license, and there are of course others.

 

[Ultimate Sneeze]

Smetana's Moldau is kind of fast paced, and very lyrical. I'd say it fits best on Skyworld. Since its nature themed, perhaps distant planet would work as well?

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4NKzmfC-Q

And then the fourth movement of Holst's second Suite in F, Fantasia on the Dargason. This is a much happier piece, so I'd say something like Skyloft, either of the Yoshi stages, or Dreamland.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVUADDz3JLU

Hungarian Dances by Johannes Brahms, not as fast paced as the Carmen piece you have, but it doesn't have to go on Battlefield. This is the first one:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ47Tc4jDi0

These are all just recordings. Do you have a guide to cleaning up music and looping, or should I look elsewhere? I'd very much like to contribute to that.

 

[Daftatt]

Smetana's Moldau is kind of fast paced, and very lyrical. I'd say it fits best on Skyworld. Since its nature themed, perhaps distant planet would work as well?

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4NKzmfC-Q

And then the fourth movement of Holst's second Suite in F, Fantasia on the Dargason. This is a much happier piece, so I'd say something like Skyloft, either of the Yoshi stages, or Dreamland.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVUADDz3JLU

Hungarian Dances by Johannes Brahms, not as fast paced as the Carmen piece you have, but it doesn't have to go on Battlefield. This is the first one:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ47Tc4jDi0

These are all just recordings. Do you have a guide to cleaning up music and looping, or should I look elsewhere? I'd very much like to contribute to that.

The Holst piece is absolutely perfect for dreamland.

I had definitely thought of Hungarian Dance No 1, but I hadn't given it a re-listen yet. It's definitely a good battlefield candidate, If I need to I can up the tempo a little, and I'll normalize the dynamics. Since IMO, drastically changing volumes in the song "can" be distracting, so I try and limit that a little bit.

No I don't have a guide for cleaning and looping music, sorry. But honestly it takes longer to find music than it does to prepare it for BRSTM, so you're helping more than you know

 

[Deleted member]

You may have to go in and test the sound tracks on a private stream to see which ones get flagged. You need to account for the false positives even if your music is copyright-free.

 

[Daftatt]

You may have to go in and test the sound tracks on a private stream to see which ones get flagged. You need to account for the false positives even if your music is copyright-free.

False positives on these are probably going to happen. It's just good to know that I have actual legal recourse for when they are flagged.

 

[Mansta]

This is a good idea, game music should be fine because it's part of the game, but this seems like a good workaround until Twitch settles this.

Can we have Project M stock photo edition now?

 

[Lopson]

There's quite a bit of good, CC-licensed music over at Newground's Audio section. Problem is, all of it is in MP3. There's also the Internet Archive, but that site's a mess: unless you know what to look for, it'll be hard to find stuff to use.

 

[Deleted member]

There's quite a bit of good, CC-licensed music over at Newground's Audio section. Problem is, all of it is in MP3. There's also the Internet Archive, but that site's a mess: unless you know what to look for, it'll be hard to find stuff to use.

Converting MP3 to BTRSM is as easy as dragging and dropping a file into the Brawl Song Manager and hitting "convert" lol.

 

[Lopson]

@Shippage What I meant by that is that the source audio files will be lossy instead of lossless. I'm not sure how the BTRSM format works, but if it requires transcoding from one lossy format to another, using an MP3 file as source is bad since that sort of procedure results in even more losses in an audio file. That should be avoided if at all possible.

 

[Daftatt]

@Shippage What I meant by that is that the source audio files will be lossy instead of lossless. I'm not sure how the BTRSM format works, but if it requires transcoding from one lossy format to another, using an MP3 file as source is bad since that sort of procedure results in even more losses in an audio file. That should be avoided if at all possible.

Based on the size of BRSTM files I would venture to say they're similar in format to PCM wav files, so definitely not anywhere near the compression of MP3s or OGGs, however from my experience you won't notice the music quality much unless you're listening on the song menu with headphones.

 

[Lopson]

@ D Daftatt I know it's just nitpicking, but "if you're going to do something, you better do it right", or so the saying goes. Also, foobar2000 identifies BRSTM files as lossless, so I guess your approximation is correct.

 

[Ultimate Sneeze]

I'm pretty sure this is perfect for Castlevania...

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9rZjlsyYY

 

[Lopson]

Nocturne n.º 2 for Distant Planet? Planets - Mars for Lylat Cruise?

Here's a great site for classical pieces: https://musopen.org/music/

 

[Daftatt]

I'm pretty sure this is perfect for Castlevania...

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9rZjlsyYY

That IS Perfect, or nearly. I'm editing out the less dramatic parts and putting a drum beat under it lol.

Nocturne n.º 2 for Distant Planet? Planets - Mars for Lylat Cruise?

Here's a great site for classical pieces: https://musopen.org/music/

THANKYOU, this is amazing.

 

[Daftatt]

Woo! Battlefield is finished with Scene De Feerie by Jules Massenet. Going to finish the final destination tracklist now

EDIT: oops that recording got messed up, I'll reupload tomorrow

 

[Daftatt]

So classical recording easily distort if I amplify them, and many of these are too quiet to be heard well in the hard coded MIDI volume settings for brawl. So I'll be using the CSV code to set the proper volumes myself then injecting that code into the P:M gct file, so this music pack will require (if you want to actually hear the music) you to use my custom GCT file, I'll also provide my CSV codes for anyone wanting to build into a bigger gct.

So for example Scenes De Feerie is in the last song slot in battlefield, so it's MIDI volume value is 54 (really low), while most songs are around 80.

 

[Feryx]

I'd love for the famous bit of Orpheus in the Underworld to make it into this project, maybe on, I dunno, Green Hill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLBWx_2y4R4

 

[Daftatt]

I'd love for the famous bit of Orpheus in the Underworld to make it into this project, maybe on, I dunno, Green Hill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLBWx_2y4R4

Sounds fantastic for GHZ, I've been pondering on the theme for that stage as it was. Marching tunes will go fantastically.

Also, I found a better recording of Hungarian Dance No 1 by Brahms for Battlefield, cut it, looped, and re-uploaded it.

 

[Daftatt]

Just added the Sarka movement from Ma Vlast by Smetana for Final Destination, it's awesome! I cut it down from 9 minutes to under 5 by taking out some of the really slow sections, see if you can tell where!

 

[Daftatt]

Added a bunch more songs that I've been editing, Jupiter the bringer of Jolly goes really well with dreamland. And another holst piece Beni Mora for FD. Also Cello Suite 1 by bach for smashville. Finally I added in L'Arlesienne Farandole by George Bizet for smashville.

 

[PandaPanda Senketsu]

I don't really know any Orchestral music, but I do know some piano pieces.


Chopin Etude op 10 no 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5VTBdKbFM&list=RD43mvd1lKd3k


Chopin Etude op 25 no 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPcy2h-H9E


Chopin Etude Op 10 no 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_foc_NxI0&list=RD43mvd1lKd3k


Beethoven "Moonlight" Sonata op 27 no 2 3rd movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zucBfXpCA6s


Beethoven "Tempest" Op 31 no 17 3rd movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EpmApWvhw

That's all I can think of off the top of my head

 

[Daftatt]

Added Military Suite No 1 by Holst (of course) to finish out dreamland's slots. Then added moonlight sonata at the suggestion of @ PandaPanda Senketsu for fountain of dreams, cut it down by over 60% in length.

 

[Daftatt]

Fixed some bad crossfades in Beni Mora Op 29. Reuploaded.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

This is a fantastic idea, and I would like to make a suggestion: Chopin's Fantasie Improptu for Fountain of Dreams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75x6DncZDgI
I hope it fits the theme well, and if I come across other pieces I see as fitting, I'll suggest them.

Good luck with this project! :D
PS: It might need some volume adjustment : P

 

[PandaPanda Senketsu]

I didn't read the first post thoroughly enough cus I didn't see that you only wanted really moving piano pieces lol

Not sure if this is what you want, but imo this is one of the most moving piano pieces of all time and also one of my favorites

Franz Liszt- Liebestraum No.3 or Liebestraum S.541, nicknamed "Love Dream"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8pvtsPzEsc

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

One day, my PM can be skullgirls.

 

[cmart]

Regardless of the circumstances, I find the existence of this project amazing. <3