Teh Booz Factor

[Smashboozer]

I'v played in a few tourneys and done well and it seems people aren't used to playing a OK or good Bowser. I'll discuse the match afterwards and its like "I've never played a good Bowser before, I didnt know what to do."
Are people being johns or what?

 

[KevinM]

Um...

Your tourneys must not have good people huh

 

[Smashboozer]

Eh, I meant I did OK by no means did I own anyone, If I won It was barely like 1 stock. The tourneys were the July 30 NCB and another small local San Jose tourney(26 people).

Take into cosideration that it was in the losers bracket so I didnt play top people. We had NorCal so like FullMetalF., Zhu, BTZO but they 3 or 2 stocked me.

 

[KevinM]

Haha ok, at least your not another noob that says they are really good for beasting their friends

 

[Zozefup]

No kidding! I recently lost to a Bowser in tourney at Memphis (can't remember the name of the tourney, but it was huge). I've beaten a lot of really good players, but some guy named Reflex goes Bowser on me! lol.

When someone jumps I sheild, wait for them to hit my sheild, and screw attack out of my sheild!

Bowser jumps... I sheild... Bowser grabs me out of an ariel!!... I die.

Bowser is broken. Why can't Samus do that?

 

[HideousBeing]

Losing to Bowser can be a bit embarrassing, so yes, people will say that they aren't used to good Bowsers to john. Thing is, it's almost legit. I play Zelda, and when I beat someone at a smashfest with her, they remarked it was strange that I played her, no one does, and that they had no idea how to act. It's true that fewer people try to excel with the lower tier characters and consequently one of the best thing we low tier players have going for us is that few players are very experienced against these characters. It's sorta degrading to know that one aspect aiding in low and bottom tier success is lack of experience, but that's the way it is.
I recall one incident, before I devoted my training to Zelda only, when I used to switch between Zelda and Sheik in matches. I was playing a CF and performing well enough, though still getting beat. Halfway through my stocks, I switched to Sheik and I felt the player instantly felt more comfortable with a foe he was experience against. I didn't get a stock off of him with those last two stocks.

 

[Smashboozer]

No I dont consider myself good, ok maybe.@Zozeup: Yeah I saw a video for Reflex he's pretty good. @KevinM: My friends suck. They dont wavedash or anything. Im trying to get them to play more but they prefer Halo>Smash.

@HideousBeing:Can you use the Zelda/Shiek transform to switch up play styles in a match? I've seen it but not in pro videos.

 

[HideousBeing]

@HideousBeing:Can you use the Zelda/Shiek transform to switch up play styles in a match? I've seen it but not in pro videos.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JV1avVAJFLk I think around 3:30 you start to see actual in match transformations, but watch the whole thing- the same person plays a good zelda and sheik.

 

[Smashboozer]

Yeah it was good I was kinda hopeing for combos that involved transform in the middle but whatever. It was a good video though.

 

[HideousBeing]

Yeah it was good I was kinda hopeing for combos that involved transform in the middle but whatever. It was a good video though.

Meh. Possible I guess, but wouldn't look like a combo, or really be considered one. Plus there's always a better option.

 

[Smashboozer]

yeah thats what I was thinkin'.U could transform but it would be too slow to combo with,aww it would be cool though.

 

[KevinM]

... Gimpy would get to this one if he wasn't at FC

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Zozefup, Reflex kinda ***** people with Bowser BTW. It really is true, people don't know what to do against a good practiced Bowser player, or any rare bottom-tiers for that matter. I know I felt that way when I went up against a skilled Zelda player back when I was a noob. I didn't know what to do.

I use G&W at tourneys and I always hear my opponents (if they've never played me) say they don't know what to do against a good G&W.

There's just so few skilled Bowsers that they're rare...okay that was redundant but you know what I mean XD

It's johns, but it's also fact. They've truly never played a skilled Bowser before you played them. They really don't know what to do. I say to them, No Johns!

@HideousBeing:Can you use the Zelda/Shiek transform to switch up play styles in a match? I've seen it but not in pro videos.

I have two matches of Captain Jack (Sheik/Zelda) vs Kei (IC) where Captain Jack uses Zelda when both climbers are alive, then changes to Sheik after Nana dies. Very sweet. I can put them on Youtube for ya.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Sorry about double post

 

[spKz]

Bowser is broken. Why can't Samus do that?

Haha that made me laugh, i have played bowser's and been surprised nearly everytime ^__^

 

[TheReflexWonder]

No kidding! I recently lost to a Bowser in tourney at Memphis (can't remember the name of the tourney, but it was huge). I've beaten a lot of really good players, but some guy named Reflex goes Bowser on me! lol.

INNsomnia V, it was. I'm an odd kid.

Zozefup, Reflex kinda ***** people with Bowser BTW.

They've truly never played a skilled Bowser before you played them. They really don't know what to do. I say to them, No Johns!

Quoted for truth, and thanks for the compliment.

Either way, this thread's point holds true for practically any low tier character. When people don't practice outside of the box, they tend to only gain knowledge for the popular characters, and as such, they don't understand how low tiers work on the competitive level. If you play a low tier competitively, that alone can be a major factor in defeating some people.

On the other half of the spectrum, if they do know what to expect, that advantage is gone. Hopefully you can still pull a win out with the things you know.