majorasmaskfan
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Nice job sakuria (that's sarcastic and not series)
Nice job sakuria (that's sarcastic and not series)
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While I can understand the frustration with Ganon not being "truly" represented after such a long time and so many different sources to draw from, due to being introduced to Ganon through Melee and 10 year old me having one hell of a time trying to unlock him in that one event match, he made quite a strong impression on me.( will be intresting to see whether the process of unlocking chars will ever be that exciting again) After finally getting him, I had what was in my mind a stronger and thus better version of captain falcon, a character who,besides appearing like a cheesy drawing of a preschooler idea of a superhero, one annoying friend liked to play next to Fox, who coupled with his tendency to rely on items and keep playing mostly hit and run strategies that sucked the fun right out of the game for me, when I tried to catch and punish him with weaker chars such as Kirby, Pickachu and Sheik and not really getting anywhere, just got on my nerves with his attitude and tendency to spam falcon's and fox's taunt! So when I trained with Ganon and adapted my playstyle to his shenanigans and proceeded to school and disrespect him, my main was solidified for the rest of time.That tech demo sucks, it ruined ganondorf in smash, and ruined the hype for windwaker
That tech demo did neither of those things. All it did was supply Sakurai with Ganondorf's model and his sword model from the demo. And it may have ruined your hype for Wind Waker, but Wind Waker was received poorly from the get-go anyway. Nowadays that game is highly-beloved by many among the fans of the series.That tech demo sucks, it ruined ganondorf in smash, and ruined the hype for windwaker
Aw that would've been sick. I wish they referenced Phanton Dorf more. Maybe a taunt where he puts on the skull mask and takes off his cape.I actually would have prefered if he used a trident like his old self and like Phantom Ganon
Hopefully we can get an alt costume with Ganondorf's TP design and sword, either when the game releases or as a DLC at some point.I wish they either gave him magic and his OoT design
or his sword and his TP design.
That tech demo sucks, it ruined ganondorf in smash, and ruined the hype for windwaker
"Ruined the hype for windwaker"I wasn't apart of the windwaker hype cycle at all, I was like 3. I'm 20 years old gen z, not some old millennial like you.
My first hype cycle game ever was skyward sword.
No one to blame but Nintendo.That tech demo sucks, it ruined ganondorf in smash, and ruined the hype for windwaker
What bait and switch? It was strictly a tech demo, not confirmation of a new Zelda game.No one to blame but Nintendo.
No idea how they expected to tease a Zelda game with a realistic art style and (for the time) amazing graphics without people then expecting exactly that and being disappointed with WW by comparison.
I remember when WW was revealed, IGN saw the biggest shift in audience from the GC forums to the Xbox forums that they'd ever seen.
You don't bait and switch like that without people being unhappy.
Uh, so why are you complaining about it "ruining" Wind Waker?I wasn't apart of the windwaker hype cycle at all, I was like 3. I'm 20 years old gen z, not some old millennial like you.
My first hype cycle game ever was skyward sword.
It doesn't matter.What bait and switch? It was strictly a tech demo, not confirmation of a new Zelda game.
You can. Hence the name tech demo.It doesn't matter.
You can't show the playerbase a video like that, say, "See? This is the kind of Zelda game we could make on the Gamecube." and then turn around and make Windwaker instead without there being backlash.
It didn't help that this was an era where Nintendo was called out for having basically nothing available on its consoles to appeal to older gamers.
A tech demo is just a way of saying "This is what could be". And blaming fans for seeing what could be and then being shown what they're getting instead works about as well as calling them racist misogynists for not liking your movie and then expecting they'll go see the next one.You can. Hence the name tech demo.
There's no argument to be had. The effects spoke for themselves. Nintendo created a lot of new Xbox fans on the day they revealed WW, as IGN saw a huge shift of primary posters on the GCN forums move over to the Xbox forums, the biggest shift they'd ever seen, in fact.Lol, I had this same argument 18 years ago. Not about to get sucked into it again.
In Ocarina of Time.@People saying "Ganon never used a sword" have you played Twilight Princess? His final form is a sword battle. He also used 2 swords in Wind Waker. And his victory pose in Melee had one.
So what? This is Smash Ganon. Zelda never had a phantom in TP but has one in smash. The game he comes from is irrelevant.In Ocarina of Time.
Which the Smash Ultimate design is.
Yeah this is a joke thread.So what? This is Smash Ganon. Zelda never had a phantom in TP but has one in smash. The game he comes from is irrelevant.
Doesn't need to be viewed as a confirmation to be disappointing, though. It was a preview of what the GC hardware could do, in this case, a super realistic Zelda game.I'll just say again that tech demos are not confirmations of new games. I didn't have any delusions as to what I was watching.
Absolutely.The thread focuses on a technicality. It doesn't matter if Ganondorf never drew a sword to fight you in Oot, we know that the man is capable of wielding one based his physique and on who the Gerudo; other versions of himself do so. Besides, in the Ocarina of Time manga he engages in a sword fight with Link. Yes, I know it's not canon but I don't care.
Let it be known that I approve of Sakurai's 'canonizing' the sword. Besides the other points brought up about how OoT Ganondorf would have known how to wield swords in human form, we also see a similar-looking sword in TP wielded by the Darknut in the Temple of Time, and I subscribe to the theory that the Darknut was actually placed there by Ganondorf, so it's a Gerudo weapon.Absolutely.
And I do feel like this was Sakurai's way of "canonizing" the tech demo in his own way. After all, Ganon never NEEDED to have the sword in his victory pose or anything...
We can say it has been "Ganonized".Let it be known that I approve of Sakurai's 'canonizing' the sword.
Yeah completely agree with your assesment.Let it be known that I approve of Sakurai's 'canonizing' the sword. Besides the other points brought up about how OoT Ganondorf would have known how to wield swords in human form, we also see a similar-looking sword in TP wielded by the Darknut in the Temple of Time, and I subscribe to the theory that the Darknut was actually placed there by Ganondorf, so it's a Gerudo weapon.
Notice as well the round shield typical of Gerudo, and black armor, similar to that worn by Ganondorf himself. Also of note is that during your duel with Ganondorf at the end of the game, he basically is a modified Darknut in terms of his fighting style. Plus, look at Ganondorf's sheath for the Sword of the Sages in Twilight Princess. It's obviously a Gerudo scabbard and look at the shape of it! Look at it! Plus look at one of the swords wielded by Ganondorf in Hyrule Warriors! That Space World 2000 sword is canon dang it
Aaaaanyway this isn't a Zelda theory site so--
The point is, Sakurai has taken liberties before, such as Zero Suit Samus's jet heels and all around awesome design, Sheik...in general, Captain Falcon's entire moveset, etc. The sword fits Ganondorf and we all wanted it so just let it happen
EDIT: I can't tell if my images are broken or not?
It also didn't help that the other tech demos that they showed off at that Spaceworld became full games later down the line;It doesn't matter.
You can't show the playerbase a video like that, say, "See? This is the kind of Zelda game we could make on the Gamecube." and then turn around and make Windwaker instead without there being backlash.
It didn't help that this was an era where Nintendo was called out for having basically nothing available on its consoles to appeal to older gamers.