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Tru, but 2 Pacman can juggle fruits between them and virtually never lose a bonus fruit if they are good at itI think Villager - PACMAN is much better than 2 PACMANs because a pocket hydrant deals 26% damage when It is launched and it kills much earlier than the PACMAN's one...and tree, bowling ball,...etc
So technically a two Pacman team is better....PACMAN and villager can do the same. PACMAN can't charge the bonus fruit when villager has it on his hands, if the bonus fruit is inside the pocket, pacman can charge it.
NO, the thing is that Villager will rely A LOT on Pac. If a team is smart and counters this strat, what can Villager do? Spam Loids?Umm... I just saw three hydrants. I think it's safe to say that Villager + Pac-Man is superior to Pac-Man + Pac-Man. Besides, being able to throw all of the fruit in any direction and then still pick it up is pretty great. Have you done a down thrown key onto a hydrant or anything of the likes? I'm sure that would be a nice and safe way to launch a lot of pain toward your opponent. Especially if you can just pick the key back up and throw for even more pain.
I didn't get this feeling from the other posts, and I apologize if that's how you interpreted mine, because it wasn't what I was trying to say.You guys say these things like Villager is a bad character, which he definitely isn't. A good Villager can hold his own anyways, and adding all of these Pacman tricks to his arsenal is deadly.
Haha, thank you!I agree with most of what @COLINGB says but am against the idea that Pacman's grab is bad. I would rather use the term: unique
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Umm?Haha, thank you!
And I can see why you're thinking this, but I'm not with you on this one. His grab doesn't kill until very high percent, and it has horrible ending lag if you miss it. I know you should use it carefully, and I rarely get punished because I tried to grab, but it still bothers me.
His pummel is strong, though, the hitbox stays active for very long (even if a good player will not run into it), and it has a really good range so he got that going for him.
It's a matter of personnal preference, really. Pacman is the second character I'm the most comfortable playing with (I main Villager), and I don't like his grab for the reasons I mentioned, but to each his own. I also dislike Villager's grab to be honest.
Edit: I completely forgot; you can hardly get any follow ups with Pacman's throws. He doesn't have anything close to a Hoohah, so their only purpose is to send the opponent away from you and get a little bit of damage on them, while other characters' throws usually do combo in different things (most of the time with the Dthrow).
It works if they miss the tech or forget to jump. (They actually can't jump at lower percentages)i dont know about dthrow to jab lock, ..
It works if they miss the tech or forget to jump. (They actually can't jump at lower percentages)
Then we can proceed to jab lock with fair and fsmash the nuetral get up.
I've performed it many times
It works a low percents, but when they are at kill precents (which is when you really want to use the key), couldn't they simply jump/air dodge/spot dodge or shield when landing? And you need to have a Key or an Orange ready, so it's situational. Not saying it's bad, but you can't do it every single time you Fthrow.Fthrow-> Key for the kill
Yes, cool combo. Harder to tech at lower percents, so it's viable.Dthrow->jab lock
Yes.Dthrow->Dash attack->bell
You have to read the jump. 50/50? It can kill early, which is nice.Dthrow->Side B (if you read the jump)
Isn't this kind of the same as the previous one?Fthrow->Side B
I know I've done it on heavier characters, but ones of average size, like say Falco, seem to get away from me easier. Damn near impossible with smaller characters.Hmm, I have trouble doing jab-locks from d-throw... I always fair to early or to late OR I dash too slow..?
Oh, you live in the capital :DI know I've done it on heavier characters, but ones of average size, like say Falco, seem to get away from me easier. Damn near impossible with smaller characters.
I probably do, though I'm not too sure.Oh, you live in the capital :D