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SWF Dex Poll- Starter Disagreement

UltiMario

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So we can actually count the votes, rather for every vote to be lost in the arguing of the SWF Dex thread, there will be a poll HERE.

First, for our squid. Should we use IC3R's rendition for a speedy squid, or Wizzerd's for a bulky one?

However.... for this.... It may effect who gets into the Fire Slot. For the Speedy Squid, a bulky fire is needed, for a bulky squid, a speedy fire.

Wizzerd's Krashken:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9336872&postcount=156

IC3R's Krashken:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9367558&postcount=341


The current "Bulky fire", as you all know, is Neofant, shown here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9348954&postcount=242

The current "speedy fire", as you know, is Kittorch:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9362383&postcount=302


Now, DO NOT ARGUE IN THIS THREAD.

Simply put a vote of which ones you want. It is recommened to vote IC3R and Neofant together or Wizzerd and Kittorch together, but you don't have to.

This is just to settle the arguement once and for all.

For me, I vote IC3R and Neofant.
 

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I could have made it if you liked...I do have that power you know. :)

IC3R's and Neofant (or whatever the actual bulky Fire would be).
 

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why was a new thread made for this?


I said to just do it in the Dex thread...

and how do you expect to make a thread with different choices without there being arguing,ESPECCIALLY when "disagreement" is in the title? (also, Neophant is no longer a starter)
 

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Haha yeah, sorry about that. It kinda slips my mind a lot because I've never used it. It's a benefit to Premium (as you already guessed), so anyone with the little mushroom can do it for you. I can't move the threads though, so you still need to talk to Spire about that.

EDIT: It was never decided if Neofant would not be a starter or if it would be. A lot of people agreed with it not being one, but the option is still there. Also, as it should be pointed out, Neofant more or less stands for a bulky Fire starter more than he does for himself in this case. He just happens to be the best example. And technically no more than voting happens in this thread. Thus, no arguments are supposed to break out. The fact that I've said more than a vote is just...well, kinda flavor text. And this. Yup. NOW VOTE ALREADY. GRAR.
 

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IC3R and Neofant.

wheeeeeeeee

HI I'M AN EDIT SINCE I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE MORE WORTHLESS UNNECESSARY POSTS

In other words, Fast Water, Bulky Fire.
 

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nope, Writer allready started an argument on only the 6th post!

Neophant has been decided on not beign a starter, read the thread guys.

Therefor the only fire starter legal here would be Kittorch <.<
 

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Joe, if they want to see a speedy squid and Neofant as a starter, let them.

This is a democracy ****it.

Also, any more arguements, and I'll ask Spire if he'll treat it as spam, and give out infractions/punishments if necessary.
 

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Joe!, the only reason UltiMario posted the title as a disagreement is because not everyone chose one Fire-starter over the other. This way, people can settle their choices with a vote.

-Terywj
 

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Regardless, Neophant has been made a non-starter with different stats as of now...
YOU ARE ARGUING.

Besides, who says we can't take back our words of conversion, hmm?
 

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Shouldn't the options be

Neophant as a starter

or

Neophant later in the dex?

Because to put it as IC3R vs Joe is going to yield very obvious results.
 

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My intention with the revised stats was to move Neofant later into the Pokedex, where it would benefit from an increase of BST and a significantly better ability.


The question should be "Do you want a fast Water starter, or a nulky Water starter?" and simply leave it at that.
 

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a sit stands, as a starter Neophant would inevitable suck (one of the reasons I argued so heavily that he not be a starter).

We can still decide on whether we want fast-ken or Bulk-ken, and Kittorch isnt really set in stone. (which is why I asked why this thread was made :p)

@chill:

of course it will yield obvious results as it seems the pokedex has forgotten one of it's spriters, and is biased toward sthe cool blue text
 

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Fast water starter. :p

But seriously, if it will stop the arguing I'll just vote Tuskorch as a starter. I'm so beyond caring about this silly argument anymore. It's time to move on.
 

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how will it stop the arguing when everyone (except ulti) in the thread accepted Neophant as a non-starter?
 

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But seriously, if it will stop the arguing I'll just vote Tuskorch as a starter. I'm so beyond caring about this silly argument anymore. It's time to move on.
I was about to posting this but with a crapload more swearing. But quoting this will do.

Vote:
Fast Water
Bulky Fire
 

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I, too, would like a fast Water starter...for once...

The new fire starter doesn't even have to be good.



All I care about is Tuskorch being a functional bulky Fire; it can't do that as a starter Pokemon.
 

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neofant isnt a starter coice anymore though...

he's been pushed back to be a better bulky fire-type
 

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I think we're not caring about that fact anymore Joe.

If we want to see Neofant as a starter, let him be that. He can be yet another NU Fire Type for all I care, Starters are hardly ever good anyways.
 

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I think we're not caring about that fact anymore Joe.

If we want to see Neofant as a starter, let him be that. He can be yet another NU Fire Type for all I care, Starters are hardly ever good anyways.
I care that it is pushed back, especially since I have been given control over what happens to the Neofant line. I want it to be a good Pokemon, and it cannot do that as a starter.

Whatever the new bulky Fire starter is, I don't really care what happens to it.

Alrighty, Spire could lock this then.

-Terywj
I agree.
 

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The problem with that is we'd have two three stage bulky Fire/Psychic types.

Unless you make Tuskorch a two-stage and make the Stat boost a huge leap, or make it a Psychic type elephant or something and make it evolve into Tuskorch with a Fire Stone......
 

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a sit stands, as a starter Neophant would inevitable suck (one of the reasons I argued so heavily that he not be a starter).
Are we supposed to care that the starter sucks or not? Game Freak certainly doesn't. And you were also the very person earlier in the thread that was scolding everyone for thinking about the metagame so much.

Ahem.

IC3R and Tuskorch.
 

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Unless you make Tuskorch a two-stage and make the Stat boost a huge leap, or make it a Psychic type elephant or something and make it evolve into Tuskorch with a Fire Stone......
I very well just may. Growlithe has a BST of 350, while Arcanine's is 555.
Tuskorch's BST is at 555 as well.

I'll make you trade it holding Charcoal or something...
 
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