I know it can spike, but sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes it shoots them upward. I assume there is a neutral spot, for juggling, spike spot, and sour spot, but I can't really tell where exactly they are. Has hitzone/box frame data been obtained yet?
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Sweet spot for Dair? What zones do what?
- Thread starter Nomzr
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TimeSmash
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You can find some info here, don't know why this isn't stickied:
http://smashboards.com/threads/seeds-of-knowledge-ivysaur-frame-data-thread.332717/
There's some info for Down Air there. I haven't read it in a while, but that should help.
I think the sweetspot for the spike is the same as the bulb one (the one where you get health back).
Edit: ¤TreK might be able to help you
http://smashboards.com/threads/seeds-of-knowledge-ivysaur-frame-data-thread.332717/
There's some info for Down Air there. I haven't read it in a while, but that should help.
I think the sweetspot for the spike is the same as the bulb one (the one where you get health back).
Edit: ¤TreK might be able to help you
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Those screenshots are from the previous Project M version, idk why we haven't updated them. The sourspot got a bit smaller and was moved up compared to this picture :
Basically the sweetspot is the bulb, the sourspot is the spore explosion.
I believe the sourspot sends at 40-45° (+- 18° because of DI) to the side (whichever side of you the opponent is at), and the sweetspot is a meteor so it sends the victim straight down. I don't think there's a third hitbox that sends directly upwards.
But, like with every other meteor in the game, if you hit a grounded opponent with the sweetspot, they will bounce vertically. That bounce takes away 30% of your move's knockback but the hitstun remains the same, so they're closer to you when the hitstun wears off and thus it is a great way to start a combo.
Basically the sweetspot is the bulb, the sourspot is the spore explosion.
I believe the sourspot sends at 40-45° (+- 18° because of DI) to the side (whichever side of you the opponent is at), and the sweetspot is a meteor so it sends the victim straight down. I don't think there's a third hitbox that sends directly upwards.
But, like with every other meteor in the game, if you hit a grounded opponent with the sweetspot, they will bounce vertically. That bounce takes away 30% of your move's knockback but the hitstun remains the same, so they're closer to you when the hitstun wears off and thus it is a great way to start a combo.
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