Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Cutie Gwen]

...You know. I get Jojo is good and all that, but you can stop it for a few minutes to see one video. Either that or just Google Steven Universe.

I'm just saying there's a vast amount of resources. It's not hard to find things.

Gamepad can only watch one thing at a time, and I HAVE looked SU up, didn't really find a good answer

 

[Z25]

Why not just tell me? I'm on the gamepad and I refuse to turn Stand Proud off for anyone. Jojo too good

They fight to save the planet, because:

Spoiler: SU's overall Plot

Their own kind invaded Earth long ago in attempts to destroy and colonize it. The gems alongside Rose fought against the mass genocide and managed to ward off their species for years. But now, there are still attempts to revive this scheme. And along with Steven, they work to protect the planet once again, so that humans won't be mass exterminated and that the other gems won't takeover and destroy the planet.

 

[Fenriraga]

Thank you Etika, I forgot how to count to 12.

I stopped watching after he uttered 'Melee'. ...Why did I START watching even?

 

[Z25]

Thank you Etika, I forgot how to count to 12.

I stopped watching after he uttered 'Melee'. ...Why did I START watching even?

I stopped reading at Etika.

 

[Champ Gold]

I stopped reading at Etika.

I stop caring at Etika.

 

[Chrono.]

SU feels like it tries too hard to be funny while also trying to make a point and have an on going narrative. At least in the more recent episodes.

 

[Frostwraith]

Frosty-sama

Frosty-senpai

Frosty-sama as it shows respect and formality.

I still wanna hear it from him

Truly, I am flattered by the respect I seem to command around these parts.

Yet, I am just a mere mortal. Just one of the around 7 billion human beings in this planet. Nothing more, nothing less.

Someone actually told me that Xenoblade has one of the worst fanbases out there... I'm confused as to why but okay his opinion...

Probably has something to do with the "WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE GAME? IT'S IRRELEVANT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OUR LORD AND SAVIOR XENOBLADE" attitude some fans have.

Fanbases and "being good" is like an oxymoron.

I have yet to find a fanbase I can see as being anything remotely good.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They fight to save the planet, because:

Spoiler: SU's overall Plot

Their own kind invaded Earth long ago in attempts to destroy and colonize it. The gems alongside Rose fought against the mass genocide and managed to ward off their species for years. But now, there are still attempts to revive this scheme. And along with Steven, they work to protect the planet once again, so that humans won't be mass exterminated and that the other gems won't takeover and destroy the planet.

I certainly do not remember reading this. I know someone who is an SU fan and she didn't say this either when I asked what it's about. She also said lesbian aliens

 

[Khoru]

SU feels like it tries too hard to be funny while also trying to make a point and have an on going narrative. At least in the more recent episodes.

i like su but yeah this is definitely pretty... yeah

 

[Z25]

I certainly do not remember reading this. I know someone who is an SU fan and she didn't say this either when I asked what it's about. She also said lesbian aliens

That'a because, it's such a typical thing fans say, but this is the core plot they go with. It isn't made obvious into later in the show, Starting around the half hour special, we begin to learn more about the past, present and future of the show and the characters backstories.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Worst part of SU for a lot of people is the buildup. The first few episodes are sooooo slow and most of the enjoyment comes from actually knowing the characters so the beginning suuuucks. It gets better but a lot of people don't last that long lol.

Also only good thing about recent episodes has been Peridot. Which makes the episodes still pretty good.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think I could get into Steven Universe...

I mean all I have to do is hear "lesbian space rocks" and it's hard to take it seriously....

It just sounds like a bad B movie from the 60s.

Think of Madoka Magika
But western, and replace death and depression with war and racism
That's the best 15 word summary I can think of

If it's not the premise, then tell me, what IS the premise?

Gay Space Rocks

It's in the damn theme song...

Man, that full intro is so hype
When is Yellow Diamond going to actually appear?

Wait where is this from? And how have I not seen it before?
And two of the characters at the end aren't even evil really.

Uh, well, she is a work in progress actually

Truly, I am flattered by the respect I seem to command around these parts.

Yet, I am just a mere mortal. Just one of the around 7 billion human beings in this planet. Nothing more, nothing less.



Fanbases and "being good" is like an oxymoron.

I have yet to find a fanbase I can see as being anything remotely good.

Awww... Frosty-Sama is so modest!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Worst part of SU for a lot of people is the buildup.

Build up is why I hate Until Dawn as a visual novel. Gonna spoiler tag it because I know Swamp wants it

Spoiler

There are 2 stories, the first story gets a **** ton of build up, when it's solved, story 2 starts despite having no build up at all, meaning all the time spent building up on the first story has effectively been wasted

 

[wedl!!]

Comparing Madoka to Steven Universe.

I will not stand for this.

 

[Fenriraga]

Streams/Directs are usually announced at least 2 days prior, right? Because people seem to think the 3rd is when it'll happen, which would be the case since we're near the end of the day.

 

[Opossum]

To be fair, they technically aren't lesbians. They have no physical gender, even if they look feminine.

Nitpick time and such.

I'll preface by saying I've never seen the show, but from what I've heard, they still refer to themselves with feminine pronouns and such. So yes, they do have a gender. What they don't have is a biological sex. The whole sex (biological) vs gender (behavioral/social) thing.

Top Ten Games lists...I don't even know if I could do that. I could try, but who knows...maybe later tonight.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Comparing Madoka to Steven Universe.

I will not stand for this.

Madoka's writer wrote a TV show in which streetdancers turn into fruits to fight an invasive species from another dimension, I think SU has this

 

[Luigi The President]

Here for some very late Pokken talk...

Here's hoping a Goomy evolution gets in! Also, Turtwig as a support, perhaps?

 

[Champ Gold]

Build up is why I hate Until Dawn as a visual novel. Gonna spoiler tag it because I know Swamp wants it

Spoiler

There are 2 stories, the first story gets a **** ton of build up, when it's solved, story 2 starts despite having no build up at all, meaning all the time spent building up on the first story has effectively been wasted

It like its hard seeing good VN/Story-Driven games on major platforms. All of David Cage's games, Until Dawn to an extent and even TaleTell is getting stale with their games and it's a shame too.


I kinda miss games like 999, Ghost Trick and smaller games like those.

 

[Substitution]

Madoka's writer wrote a TV show in which streetdancers turn into fruits to fight an invasive species from another dimension, I think SU has this

...And what is this...enigma of a television show called?

 

[IsmaR]

What they don't have is a biological sex. The whole sex (biological) vs gender (behavioral/social) thing.

This is all fandom speculation to begin with, but

Spoiler

Steven's mother Rose is shown being pregnant with him at one point in the show. That's definitely more than just "behavioral/social"

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It like its hard seeing good VN/Story-Driven games on major platforms. All of David Cage's games, Until Dawn to an extent and even TaleTell is getting stale with their games and it's a shame too.


I kinda miss games like 999, Ghost Trick and smaller games like those.

You know what I also hate about the games you called stale? Outside of TaleTell iirc, they release the visual novels FULL PRICE! Hell, Ace Attourney, a damn fine visual novel, doesn't charge full price! I remember Dual Destinies only being 30 bucks on the eshop. Not to mention they don't make sense! 'Heavy Rain is so tragic' Jason's death at the beginning is absolutely bull****

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Madoka's writer wrote a TV show in which streetdancers turn into fruits to fight an invasive species from another dimension, I think SU has this

...
I'm curious, what is this show?

 

[Deleted member]

Also, this alone makes me want to not get FE Fates because of how hard it made me cringe yet laugh.

Spoiler: Ewwww....

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Yeah, remember when we talked about bad fanservice?....

But dude, that's Foleo
Aka best trap
It should have the exact opposite effect with you

This is all fandom speculation to begin with, but

Spoiler

Steven's mother Rose is shown being pregnant with him at one point in the show. That's definitely more than just "behavioral/social"

That's called shapeshifting
Naturally, they don't have a sex but since they can shapeshift at will...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

...And what is this...enigma of a television show called?

Kamen Rider Gaim, obviously

 

[Chrono.]

Welp, TGA is having some big names showing up.

Including Shaq, Mark Hamill and Kiefer Sutherland.

 

[wedl!!]

>shaq

"It's too late. I'm already a meme, Kaz."

 

[Senselessbreak]

So I noticed Dante from the Devil May Cry series is in PXZ2. Is this the first time hes in a Nintendo game?

I'm excited to play Super Smash Bros For Wii U and 3DS featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Welp, TGA is having some big names showing up.

Including Shaq, Mark Hamill and Kiefer Sutherland.

Shaq-Fu 2 HYPE!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

To go back to Undertale.

It's one of the best games I've played in a while.

But yeah the game is overhyped to high heaven.

The reason that happened is because I personally think that its the kind of game that attracts the political complainer crowd.

From what I've seen, they politicize the game and show it as proof of progressiveness as opposed to being a great game that simply has those elements.

For example, Undertale wrote a cute lesbian couple (though I feel it was badly written in certain parts, I'd like more show, not tell) and a fun and memorable trans? character. Fans are making those things much bigger than they are....

 

[Fenriraga]

Welp, TGA is having some big names showing up.

Including Shaq.

It's time.

I actually am curious where this game is at.

 

[Chrono.]

So I noticed Dante from the Devil May Cry series is in PXZ2. Is this the first time hes in a Nintendo game?

I'm excited to play Super Smash Bros For Wii U and 3DS featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

He was in the first PXZ and SNK vs Capcom Card Clash Fighters on the DS.

 

[Solfiner]

Fanbases and "being good" is like an oxymoron.

I have yet to find a fanbase I can see as being anything remotely good.

And that's why I try finding smaller groups of cool people with the same interests rather than even bothering with the bigger picture. I just want to shelter myself from "fanbases" as much as possible.

 

[Kenith]

So I noticed Dante from the Devil May Cry series is in PXZ2. Is this the first time hes in a Nintendo game?

I'm excited to play Super Smash Bros For Wii U and 3DS featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

No, he's in Project X Zone 1 as well.
Though I'm pretty sure this is Vergil's first appearance?

...I hope that this along with Cloud's reveal doesn't lead to an influx of Dante for Smash supporters...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

To go back to Undertale.

It's one of the best games I've played in a while.

But yeah the game is overhyped to high heaven.

The reason that happened is because I personally think that its the kind of game that attracts the political complainer crowd.

From what I've seen, they politicize the game and show it as proof of progressiveness as opposed to being a great game that simply has those elements.

For example, Undertale wrote a cute lesbian couple (though I feel it was badly written in certain parts, I'd like more show, not tell) and a fun and memorable trans? character. Fans are making those things much bigger than they are....

To me, simply having these kind of characters isn't good. It's how they are used. And while it's nice to see, that doesn't mean it should be used to praise a game, unless it's a part of a game's wellwritten story

 

[kylexv]

Changed my avatar in the spirit of the season.
And to all who haven't changed your avatars to a holiday avatar, you have lost Papyrus's respect.
You're not getting his spaghetti either.

 

[A Distant Demon]

trans? character.

uhhh mind elaborating?

I know of two androgynous characters but I can't really think of a trans one.

Changed my avatar in the spirit of the season.
And to all who haven't changed your avatars to a holiday avatar, you have lost Papyrus's respect and your share of spaghetti.

>Implying Papyrus could ever lose respect for anyone.

plus I would just wind up switching in a day or two anyway. . . I can't stick with one for long.

 

[epicmartin7]

It's time.



I actually am curious on when he's going to be released.

Fixed.

 

[aldelaro5]

To go back to Undertale.

It's one of the best games I've played in a while.

But yeah the game is overhyped to high heaven.

The reason that happened is because I personally think that its the kind of game that attracts the political complainer crowd.

From what I've seen, they politicize the game and show it as proof of progressiveness as opposed to being a great game that simply has those elements.

For example, Undertale wrote a cute lesbian couple (though I feel it was badly written in certain parts, I'd like more show, not tell) and a fun and memorable trans? character. Fans are making those things much bigger than they are....

To this day, I cannot understand why the gender of Vivian is still talked so much so if undertale got hyped for that......that;s weird because tbh (and I should really write an essay on it), I watched a complete lp of it and it;s one of the most well engineered game I saw, and tbh it could bring a really new way to do rpg.

But these.....what?

 

[Champ Gold]

You know what I also hate about the games you called stale? Outside of TaleTell iirc, they release the visual novels FULL PRICE! Hell, Ace Attourney, a damn fine visual novel, doesn't charge full price! I remember Dual Destinies only being 30 bucks on the eshop. Not to mention they don't make sense! 'Heavy Rain is so tragic' Jason's death at the beginning is absolutely bull****

And the thing his Heavy Rain is best of those three Quadratic Dreams games despite those issues (Seriously, Ethan should have died from the impact moreso than Jason).

I did hear good things about D4 (it's an Xbox One exclusive) so I'll see if it's worth it but I want a cop drama VN game like Policenauts, aka Hideo Kojima's best game he ever made.



Yep, better than all of his Metal Gears, Snatcher and Botkai