Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Swamp Sensei]

Nintendo Account launched in Japan btw

We still don't have an American equivalent....

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

We still don't have an American equivalent....

Probably not until next year I'd imagine.

 

[powerprotoman]

okay so last minute prediction for the smash broadcast

cloud,isaac,and ray 01,wolf
midgar, venus light house, holloseum

4-8 ballot characters are revealed with a schedule of 1-2 characters every 2 months starting in february
characters who bring a new series will get a stage

this is what i consider the true ultimate max possible outcome....(ex alpha turbo tournament addition edition+ the movie the game the book the ride)

 

[True Blue Warrior]

How would that work?

Baically with Isaac looking older than in the first two GS gams, but younger than in Dark Dawn (perhaps with a stubble)

Essentially, something like this but with his GS 1 attire

Spoiler

 

[Chrono.]

okay so last minute prediction for the smash broadcast

cloud,isaac,and ray 01,wolf
midgar, venus light house, holloseum

4-8 ballot characters are revealed with a schedule of 1-2 characters every 2 months starting in february
characters who bring a new series will get a stage

this is what i consider the true ultimate max possible outcome....(ex alpha turbo tournament addition edition+ the movie the game the book the ride)

Why Ray01 of all people?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Baically with Isaac looking older than in the first two GS gams, but younger than in Dark Dawn (perhaps with a stubble)

Essentially, something like this but with his GS 1 attire

Spoiler

Eh. I like the man beard.

Though this looks cool too.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Eh. I like the man beard.

Though this looks cool too.

I don't mind his beard, either.

 

[powerprotoman]

Why Ray01 of all people?

i dont know it just seemed right...and seeing as yokai watch let e get 6 pulls from the crank-a-kai im just feeling lucky

 

[IceBreakerXY]

So let me get this straight.we have pokken, mortal kombat, and smash news in the month?You gotta love fighting games. predicting ursaring/typhlosion for pokken. Rain/Smoke for MKX, and Shovel knight/Banjo(maybe Dixie) for smash

 

[LIQUID12A]

Something tells me we should only expect a maximum of four ballot characters, especially if Cloud and whoever comes with him is preballot.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I expect 3 at most. Two now that Cloud's in.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Something tells me we should only expect a maximum of four ballot characters, especially if Cloud and whoever comes with him is preballot.

Didn't Sakurai imply Cloud was a ballot choice?

 

[Chrono.]

>reads about Pokken's hint towards the character
>Sylveon's Japanese name is ニンフィア
>ン

pls harada

 

[Deleted member]

So hey guys wha--

WARNING: New Challenger Approaching

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WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON???
PLS FERALIGATR
PLS ZOROARK

please be another pikachu

Pikachu Belle or riot

Oh man, Swump and Golen crushing my hopes and drea--

Hydreigon

Yes, pleas--

Galvantula

YES YES
THIS IS WAY BETTER
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS PURE AND SACRED
Mfw no Gen V Pokemon will be playable

 

[Geno Boost]

Geno was SMASHIFIED, not really but this is an amazing render that was made by Nibroc-Rock.
but i will put this render here in case if someone is trying to leak Geno anytime in the future so we could prove the leak is fake easily.
click the spoiler to see the render.

Spoiler

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Been a while since I posted. Was enjoying my thanksgiving break.

Was an interesting break because I used it to try out some mangas and anime.

Here is my haul.

Anime watched:
Yuru Yuri (On current episode)
One Punch Man (On current episode)
Monster Musume (Complete)
Sakura Trick (Complete)
Himouto! Umaru-chan (1 episode)

Manga Read:
Yuru Yuri (To chapter 71, will explain why I stopped on my thoughts on each thing section)
Monster Musume (Current translated chapter)

Yes, I have weird taste in things.

Spoiler: Thoughts On Each

Spoiler: Anime

Spoiler: Yuru Yuri

I love this anime. It basically hits all the right notes with me. First, the obvious. It is a yuri show. But here is the thing about this yuri show. It translates to "Easy going Yuri" for a reason. It's not a story about forbidden love or potentially being a random partner, it's about what hilarity can ensure with all the girls basically being gay. I mean wow, it's hard to really explain.

Speaking of hilarity though, this show is hilarious and amazingly cute. The characters make the comedic timing on point making even a lot of running gags, (which they don't use as much in Season 3), still hilarious even at the end of Season 2.

This all combines into one of the best characters ever. Kyoko. My god Kyoko. The best way to describe her is an energetic character with no shame. She is everything I mentioned wrapped into one adorable package. My god and her character interactions make her. Every scene she has is pure joy.

With season 3, they have gone a slightly more serious route. Not in the sense that they are edgy and stuff. They are still random and hilarious, but there does now seem to be a bigger focus on character development as well as finally advancing some ships.

Speaking of which, Ayano x Kyoko best ship.

This was honestly one of my top 5 favorite animes. It has everything I want in anime. And that is to have a good time. It doesn't have a complex plot. And maybe I need to turn off my brain sometimes, but every minute is a joy.

Spoiler: One Punch Man

I'm not usually into these kinds of shows. Especially with all the manly man, and bulging muscles. However, the plot is just too interesting and the actual show is just too hilarious to let that get in my way. I prefer cute things, and tbh the only reason I tried it out was to see that green haired looking waifu, (which we haven't seen much of even up to this point), but I mean it is just too fun. Saitama is an awesome hero as well. Didn't expect much from him, but he really makes this anime so enjoyable.

Spoiler: Monster Musume

I'm going to be straight with you. From what I hear, this anime really doesn't do anything new in terms of the Harem genre. However, that doesn't matter to much to me. What matters to me most about an anime is that I can have fun watching it. The concept of monster girls provide a very interesting premise for this show. The hilarity that can be provided by it is great. As for my thoughts on each main monster girls:
Miia: The typical girl, (aside from being a snake or as they call it a Lamia). Her interesting thing is always trying to take down her "rivals."
Papi: Papi is soooo cute. Her being a bird brain is a double edge sword. It's good because it can provide for hilarious moments, and bad because it can also be a little annoying. With all that said, because she can be so adorable, she is one of my favorites.
Cerea: Probably my least favorite. Can't get behind that horse body, and her loyalty personality isn't interesting to me. Also Too big.
Suu: Oh my god Suu. I honestly never expected to see so much hilarity from a slime. This is what I'm talking about with how concepts can make an anime work. I would make the classic joke with her, but that word is censored here.
Mero: *Tragedy intensifies*
Rachnee: Wow. I never seen webs used like that before.

Spoiler: Secret Character

Lala: This girl is pretty awesome even from the little we see. She has a great design without being too fanservicey looking, and is pretty hilarious with how she uses her head. She is also so adorable when she is flustered. I love characters who think so high of them selves but have an adorable side when they can't reach the height of what they say. I would like to see more of her. She has the potential to be one of my favorites, especially with things that happen in the manga. Apparently the next chapter will have more of her so crossing my fingers.

Spoiler: Sakura Trick

Meh. Despite being a yuri anime, it doesn't hit the right notes for me. I just don't care much about the characters. Like, there are two other main characters who are in a rocky relationship, and they don't do anything with it. It has some funny moments, and it can be incredibly cute as well. It has random moments of fanservice like jiggly physics for no reason. I'm a person who doesn't care much for fanservice, but if you want to entertain me with it, at least have a reaction to it. Don't just have it to have it.

Spoiler: Himouto! Umaru-chan

Only saw the first episode. It was ok. Might decide to watch more at a later date. I don't care much for both the main character designs as a regular person and her more lazy form. Also, it is incredibly strange how she can be so perfect while being so lazy.

Spoiler: Manga

Spoiler: YuruYuri

I mean, the anime followed the manga pretty well. I decided to read only up to chapter 70 since season 3 was nearing it's end anyway. I might as well finish the anime and see what they have in store for the finale. I'll read the rest after. But man these chapters are surprisingly short.

Spoiler: Monster Musume

So don't read this if you are under 18. That kinda goes for the anime, but especially so here. Anyway, man, the chapters that happen after the initial chapters the anime was based off of are insane. It makes me reaally want a season 2 of the anime to see these things animated and voice acted.

Overall, I enjoyed my Thanksgiving break. Very interesting to try new types of anime as well as have a blast seeing what they were like. I'm hoping Yuru Yuri and One punch man continue to be very good. (Not like I don't expect it since even the latest episode of both were awesome). I also hope the next chapter of Monster Musume can be translated already.

Now I have to survive the last 3 weeks of school. It shouldn't be too bad, especially when it really is more like 1 week and 1/2 of actual school, then the rest is studying and mid-terms. I just have to not procrastinate like I'm...currently...doing...now...

(Doesn't help I spent probably too much time actually writing this out. Hehe...)

 

[LIQUID12A]

Didn't Sakurai imply Cloud was a ballot choice?

"Difficult request" could mean anything, to be fair.

I'm going to wait and see what's made of him.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Damn proto, first Shadow Venoct now Goldenyan. I don't know how I could be anymore jealous.

 

[PushDustIn]

"Difficult request" could mean anything, to be fair.

I'm going to wait and see what's made of him.

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In both cases, he uses "要望". The first tweet is asking people to request characters on the website.
The second tweet is saying that Cloud was a difficult request.

要望 can also be translated as "demand for". If you want to see examples of how it's used, then click here.

MaskedMan, Soma and I are all in an agreement that "request" = requested by the ballot.

Sure, we could be wrong and it's not 110% confirmed...but this coupled with the Lucas, Roy, Ryu line:

From now on, it is going to be fan service

It's very, very likely that Cloud will be considered a ballot character.

 

[LIQUID12A]

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In both cases, he uses "要望". The first tweet is asking people to request characters on the website.
The second tweet is saying that Cloud was a difficult request.

要望 can also be translated as "demand for". If you want to see examples of how it's used, then click here.

MaskedMan, Soma and I are all in an agreement that "request" = requested by the ballot.

Sure, we could be wrong and it's not 110% confirmed...but this coupled with the Lucas, Roy, Ryu line:


It's very, very likely that Cloud will be considered a ballot character.

It's a fine assumption, but I'd like to withhold judgment regardless in the case we hear more about Cloud's selection process.

 

[FalKoopa]

Would you look at that...

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I demand a standalone Paper Mario now.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: Xeno X - Chapter 1

I just cannot stop laughing to the name of NLA's 'Mayor', Maurice Chausson.

Not only it's an obvious stereotype of typical french name, but it looks like we love the name 'Maurice' at Nintendo, after Maurice Favreau in Other M.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I seen the costume, they could've at least Paper Mario his own thing, I can understand the Triforce Heroes costume, but the M&L&PM costume is weird. How do they decide these costumes?

 

[DMurr]

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In both cases, he uses "要望". The first tweet is asking people to request characters on the website.
The second tweet is saying that Cloud was a difficult request.

要望 can also be translated as "demand for". If you want to see examples of how it's used, then click here.

MaskedMan, Soma and I are all in an agreement that "request" = requested by the ballot.

Sure, we could be wrong and it's not 110% confirmed...but this coupled with the Lucas, Roy, Ryu line:


It's very, very likely that Cloud will be considered a ballot character.

Did Sakurai ever use that same word to describe the inclusion of the already released DLC characters? I know he said something about how he was aware of the demand for them or popularity or something.

I know you guys translate frequently (along with MM being a professional translator) and after discussions believe Cloud is a ballot character, but the fact that Ryu could also be considered a "request," coupled with the amount of time I'd imagine it took to negotiate the details and create the content, it seems farfetched that he's truly a ballot character. The timeframe doesn't line up to me. Sakurai has been getting requests for years, outside of the ballot. "Fan service" could be used to describe Mewtwo (or really all 4 DLC characters).

I mean, in the end, it doesn't really matter since Cloud is in the game and one way or another, fans had requested him. They could pass off literally any character as a "ballot" character.

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify, I mean "ballot character" in the sense of what we generally have been thinking of it as -- a character who's popularity on the ballot influenced the decision for them to get in. While there's obviously not a confirmation this is what will happen, as many an argument over this topic has occurred, I imagine it's safe to assume that popularity will be a factor. In the case of Cloud, Sakurai knows his popularity, like Ryu. The location of the "request" really is irrelevant. With the time period we've had though, I don't feel there was enough time for Cloud to have gotten a significant enough number of votes to be labelled as a "ballot character."

 

[Strofirko]

How do they decide these costumes?

By marketing.

 

[Chrono.]

I seen the costume, they could've at least Paper Mario his own thing, I can understand the Triforce Heroes costume, but the M&L&PM costume is weird. How do they decide these costumes?

Who knows.

I'm guessing they like to hype up coming games.

 

[Deleted member]

Oni learned Spark! About ****ing time
Now do something useful again and evolv--
HOLY ****
Oni evolved into Luxio
I can't believe he is becoming useful! Now to go back to grinding because the Galactic admins may look like jokes but they are sadistic cheaters with underleveled Pokemon

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I mean, in the end, it doesn't really matter since Cloud is in the game and one way or another, fans had requested him. They could pass off literally any character as a "ballot" character.

Considering the ballot was a suggestion box rather than a popularity contest, Cloud can still be a ballot choice even if in a hypothetical scenario only like 50 people asked for him in the ballot. He still makes sense as a fanservice character regardless of how much demand there was for him as he is a generally very popular video game character regardless of Smash demand or not.

 

[DMurr]

Considering the ballot was a suggestion box rather than a popularity contest, Cloud can still be a ballot choice even if in a hypothetical scenario only like 50 people asked for him in the ballot. He still makes sense as a fanservice character regardless of how much demand there was for him as he is a generally very popular video game character regardless of Smash demand or not.

Agreed, this is what I was saying. They could've received one ballot request for Cloud and still called him one.

They have yet to define him as such, as least to an English-speaking audience. It doesn't make sense to not describe the ballot characters as ballot characters. Don't you want your fans to feel like they made the choice..? Seems like the point. They could speak on it in the upcoming presentation though, so we'll see.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Oni learned Spark! About ****ing time
Now do something useful again and evolv--
HOLY ****
Oni evolved into Luxio
I can't believe he is becoming useful! Now to go back to grinding because the Galactic admins may look like jokes but they are sadistic cheaters with underleveled Pokemon

Hey im useful for once AND not dead!

Which means im obviously about to get crit :')

 

[Chrono.]

Weren't there previous ballots for Brawl and Melee?

Or were those a different thing altogether?

 

[FalKoopa]

Geno was SMASHIFIED, not really but this is an amazing render that was made by Nibroc-Rock.
but i will put this render here in case if someone is trying to leak Geno anytime in the future so we could prove the leak is fake easily.
click the spoiler to see the render.

Spoiler

I'm late on this, but this is really well done.

I love the textures and lighting on the wood and the cloth, especially the shoes.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey im useful for once AND not dead!

Which means im obviously about to get crit :')

Haha, the first thing that happens to you after I read this is getting critted by a Ground move...
Good thing it was just Mud-Slap from some wild Shellos

 

[ChikoLad]

We are getting there.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Haha, the first thing that happens to you after I read this is getting critted by a Ground move...
Good thing it was just Mud-Slap from some wild Shellos

"Which means i'm obviously about to get Pokerus :')"

I've gotten Pokerus but still never seen a damn shiny

 

[PushDustIn]

Did Sakurai ever use that same word to describe the inclusion of the already released DLC characters? I know he said something about how he was aware of the demand for them or popularity or something.

I know you guys translate frequently (along with MM being a professional translator) and after discussions believe Cloud is a ballot character, but the fact that Ryu could also be considered a "request," coupled with the amount of time I'd imagine it took to negotiate the details and create the content, it seems farfetched that he's truly a ballot character. The timeframe doesn't line up to me. Sakurai has been getting requests for years, outside of the ballot. "Fan service" could be used to describe Mewtwo (or really all 4 DLC characters).

I mean, in the end, it doesn't really matter since Cloud is in the game and one way or another, fans had requested him. They could pass off literally any character as a "ballot" character.

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify, I mean "ballot character" in the sense of what we generally have been thinking of it as -- a character who's popularity on the ballot influenced the decision for them to get in. While there's obviously not a confirmation this is what will happen, as many an argument over this topic has occurred, I imagine it's safe to assume that popularity will be a factor. In the case of Cloud, Sakurai knows his popularity, like Ryu. The location of the "request" really is irrelevant. With the time period we've had though, I don't feel there was enough time for Cloud to have gotten a significant enough number of votes to be labelled as a "ballot character."

He uses the same word stating that he had a grasp on their popularity/ demand even without the ballot.

非常に多くの要望をいただいていますが、もちろん、リュカ、ロイ、リュウの三人は、投票拳が作られる前から制作しています。人気、要望のほどは把握していましたけれども。

We’ve received an extremely large number of votes, but of course, Lucas, Roy, and Ryu were in development even before the ballot was created. I had a grasp on their popularity and demand, though.

I think I fulfilled a fairly difficult request, what do you think [about it]?

The thing with the fan service line is that it's a big break from the rest. He literally says "From now on it's going to be fan service" (これからは). We kept the same structure with the paragraph break/ sentence structure in order to try to mimic the removal that Sakurai had in the original text. He had an idea of the demand/ request, but everything else was going to be based on the actual requests.

 

[Frostwraith]

If Cloud is a ballot character, I think he may have been chosen from tallied results up till an early point of the ballot's running period.

I think it could mean that we may get more than one wave of ballot choices. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect two more waves, both of which will be alluded in the next presentation. Kind of like how some content for the July 31st wave was already alluded to in the June presentation.

Well, I guess we will find out soon.

 

[Bedoop]

I seen the costume, they could've at least Paper Mario his own thing, I can understand the Triforce Heroes costume, but the M&L&PM costume is weird. How do they decide these costumes?

...What?
What chu talkin' about, Fumi?

Would you look at that...

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I demand a standalone Paper Mario now.

Oh.
Das what Fumi was talkin' about.
Well for one
I would've preffered a standalone Paper Mario
Secondly
Luigi in the back makes me very sad, they could've pulled a Pikmin Costume

 

[ChikoLad]

I think fan service is too vague a word to go on.

It was also completely redundant of him to use that word since every character in Smash is fan service.

Sure, some might get in for more "promotional" reasons than others - Greninja being the obvious example, since they started development on him before his game was even so much as announced to the public, let alone Greninja himself - but pretty much everyone is in because the core, more niche Smash fanbase wanted them (I'd say Palutena and Dark Pit are the biggest examples of this, since the Uprising and Smash fanbase are pretty much almost completely overlapped due to the shared developer and Brawl introducing the Uprising versions of Pit and Palutena), the general, more mainstream Nintendo fanbase wanted them (Rosalina and Mewtwo, for example, are extremely popular in their own series' and are very well known), or because they are an unexpected addition that they know a lot of gamers, even non-Nintendo ones, would appreciate (Duck Hunt Duo and Pac-Man are just big cultural figures that made a mark on the industry, even if only one game mattered). While some characters may have been chosen for moveset potential initially, they would naturally fall into one of these criteria anyway, and all of these count as a form of fan service, and I believe Cloud fits into the last one, rather than being a ballot choice.

I'm not saying it's impossible Cloud was a ballot choice but if he was, it seriously had to be based off of like, a handful of votes, I doubt he was ever a front runner. Maybe Sakurai just saw him in the ballot and had a "****, WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF HIM SOONER???" moment, and hopped straight to it regardless of his Nintendo/Smash fanbase popularity.

That's just my thoughts though. In reality, there's no real need to discuss it since we just need to wait and see what happens in the broadcast and in any Sakurai interviews/Famitsu articles that may come around afterwards.

 

[Kenith]

Pokken is getting a new character...?
Well, there's a lot of Pokemon it could be...but there's only one it should be.