Super Smash Warriors - Yay or Nay?

[ChikoLad]

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...cer_would_love_to_work_with_mario_and_company

So the producer of Hyrule Warriors has come out and said that they would love to work with Mario, or other Nintendo franchises. However, they do specifically mention Smash Bros as a starting point:

One of my ultimate dreams would be using that character with the red hat on top. There is a Smash Bros. coming out, we do see a lot of different characters coming together in an all-star roster, so hopefully in the long run we can work with Nintendo on something with a similar line, where we can provide or deliver something Nintendo can't in a sense with their own IP.

While most of you people here are Americans and are likely still eagerly awaiting Hyrule Warriors, it's already out over here in Europe, and I already have it. It's a fantastic game, and certainly one of the best on the Wii U (really the only rival to it Super Mario 3D World IMO, besides Smash Bros). It's also the most polished and interesting Warriors game in a long time.

Personally, I think a "Super Smash Warriors" would be amazing, and a really refreshing spin-off for the Smash Bros franchise, while still referencing the franchise's roots, through movesets and such.

But what do you guys think? Would ye like to see Kirby mow down armies of Metroids or something in a super stylish fashion, and other such shenanigans? Or is that pushing things too far?

 

[Sari]

I'd personally love a SSB Dynasty Warriors game. Imagine exploring different Nintendo worlds and fighting enemies related to each series, with playable characters such as Shulk, Captain Falcon, and Ness. I'd buy a Wii U just for that (and Smash of course).

 

[mario123007]

I don't know, will it be a fighting game or an adventure game? I am worrying the game might make people messed up.

 

[GunGunW]

I'd be happy if Mario was DLC for Hyrule Warriors.

I mean, Link is DLC for Mario Kart 8.... so fair is fair

(But something like Mario or Poke Warriors would be cool)

 

[oGr33n]

I think smash bros. should be the only one to be able to do that. A major portion of smash bros's attraction is that fact that its the only official game where you'd see the cast of nintendo characters together in a game. Makes smash more special

 

[Dr_Falchion]

I would love to see that. From what I've seen in Gameplay footage, It would give some opportunities, especially for gameplay, that Zelda didn't really give; there aren't really any "brawl" characters (pardon my pun) in Hyrule Warriors - they all used melee weapons or magic (and even the magic ones typically used some sort of similar short ranged attacks to the weapon users). With Smash Bros, you'd get moves like the Falcon Punch, where you'd fly forward hitting anything in your way - a very different style than Hyrule Warriors.
Not to mention the opportunities here for characters like Kirby, Ice Climbers, King Dedede, etc - the weirder characters. For example, Dedede could have a move where he simply jumps up and lands on a group of enemies. You could even string this into combos - jump into a group of enemies, knocking them down, then do a spin attack with your huge hammer.


Aside from the Gameplay perspective, this could quite possibly better fan-service than either Smash Bros OR Hyrule Warriors was - think about the detailed worlds, the unique enemies (take a hint from Smash Run and give each enemy its own unique abilities and weaknesses), the Easter Egg opportunities, and the opportunity for Humor and References!

The downsides? Well, the story would suck. The only reason Subspace Emissary worked is because they kept the detail and explanations to a minimum - the characters are trophies, that's why all these characters from different universes / faraway galaxies from each other are able to be together. That type of explanation just wouldn't work so well in a game where you have a Solo campaign as the focus.

Also, the game would, if they started production now, be finished at the end of the Wii U's lifespan AT THE EARLIEST. If they put the amount of detail that they put into Hyrule Warriors for all the content that they would have to deal with, the game would be insanely huge. Like, unrealistically huge. Like, as big as Bungie says Destiny is going to be in 10 years when they're finished releasing all the content for it.

 

[ChikoLad]

I think Sonic would be fair as DLC for Hyrule Warriors. Sonic Lost World had a Zelda level as DLC. So just throw Sonic into Hyrule Warriors with Caliburn. It's literally perfect.

But yeah there are tons of possibilities for such a game. I'd even take just the Mario one. At least that way I'd DEFINITELY be getting Rosalina (probably the most fitting Mario character for something like this, since she already has high spectacle abilities).

 

[GunGunW]

Maybe Hyrule Warriors could have an all stars pack that adds Mario and Pikachu?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

F*** yeah, but only after the inevitable "Duck Dynasty Warriors".

 

[MagnesD3]

It would just be a bunch of anime characters and Mario characters so whats the point. Oh yea dont forget all the tons of pointless female eye candy characters.

 

[ChikoLad]

It would just be a bunch of anime characters and Mario characters so whats the point

 

[Saikyoshi]

From what I've heard, Hyrule Warriors has been pretty much a flop so far, so I'm remaining cautiously skeptical about this idea.

 

[Xermo]

The level (and character) design possibilities would be godlike. An expansive Mother map in 3D? *Salivates*

 

[ChikoLad]

From what I've heard, Hyrule Warriors has been pretty much a flop so far, so I'm remaining cautiously skeptical about this idea.

If we're talking sales here, that's kind of irrelevant. A Smash Warriors game would sell, regardless of Hyrule Warriors, since it covers way more potential customers.

In terms of the game itself though, Hyrule Warriors is legitimately one of the best titles on Wii U, and one of, if not THE best Warriors game yet. It's just really polished and has a ton of content and a surprising amount of variety due to the collectible aspects and the Adventure Mode.

 

[Tumbleweed Tuner]

Surely Ridley is not to big for Warriors?

 

[MagnesD3]

Surely Ridley is not to big for Warriors?

Ridley would be a non fightable boss character only seen in cutscenes. Actually Ridley is too small for Hyrule Warriors and therefore cant be a boss.

 

[ChikoLad]

Surely Ridley is not to big for Warriors?

Actually, not at all. In Hyrule Warriors:

Spoiler

An unlockable weapon for Link lets you play as the Great Fairy, and she carries Link around in a bottle. And she's massive.

 

[Jae]

Totally!

I love the Warriors series, and couple that with Smash Bros... KT can just take my money.
A Smash Bros. Musou game might just be able to take on Warriors Orochi 3 as my favorite Warriors game.

 

[Dr_Falchion]

Actually, not at all. In Hyrule Warriors:

Spoiler

An unlockable weapon for Link lets you play as the Great Fairy, and she carries Link around in a bottle. And she's massive.

I'm not sure about Ridley's chances though. Preferably they'll just leave him as is and scale him down a little bit, but what if we got a Valga-esque character for Ridley?

Nah - he'll just be a Stage Boss on Pyrosphere

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Omg...that would be the greatest thing ever!!!

 

[Khao]

I'd actually be far more excited for a Dinasty Warriors with Nintendo All-Stars than I am right now for Hyrule Warriors... And I'm saying that as a huge Zelda fan.

Hyrule Warriors is just.... Meh.

It'd be awesome if it was a crazy crossover, but as is, I can't get excited about it.

 

[Aguki90]

Surely Ridley is not to big for Warriors?

I saw something big as dodongo and it was playable, so ridley is possible. lol, who, remember it a secret to everybody.

You know what, I was thinking about a Smash Warrior, that would be beast. Heck even Assist trophy can enter and joins the battle. Imagine your using Olimar and Pikmin in Yoshi World assisted with sonic, Mario, Samus and even Shulk to save the food for yoshi.

I still wish for a real Super Smash RPG, that is the thing.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I always wanted to see Smash get a spin-off of sorts. So yeah, I'd be down with this.

 

[Hydde]

Ironically, i was thinking about an smash warrior some days ago, and now this.


INTERESTING

 

[Crudedude]

I voted nay but to be honest if something like this ever come out i'll probably play it but not buy it, maybe convince someone else to get it so i can try it. However if it was something else other then ssb I'd pay like hyrule warriors.

 

[chrisall76]

I would definitely play it, would need a online mode (unlike Hyrule Warriors...) for me to really want it though.

 

[Malkior7]

I would be okay with it

 

[BerryBomber]

Metroid Warriors. Make it happen Nintendo. Samus, all the Hunters, Anthony, Ridley, Chozo, Luminoth, high-class pirates, etc. $$$$$$

 

[Ffamran]

So basically Warriors Orochi, a combination of series into one mess of "let's massacre millions of random grunts". I'm in.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

I would've liked to see more of a Kingdom Hearts kind of thing with all the Nintendo franchises. Too bad thay doesn't seem to be happening anytime EVER!
Sure another Nintendo crossover might devalue Smash Bros but I just want to see an elaborate story with all the franchises together. With dialogue.

 

[Angelglory]

Pretty sure I could die happy if Smash Bros. got the Warriors package.

 

[Brindor]

Outside of smash, a pokemon one wouldn't be too bad either.

 

[Mr.Seven]

That would be awesome. Either a Warriors-style Smash Bros spinoff or a spinoff that would play like the Tales Of series.

 

[NoiseHERO]

That sounds way more interesting than just hyrule warriors.

But didn't someone else on these forums come up with this idea before.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

This really depends on what cast they use. Using Smash Bros's current cast is pretty oversaturating due the fact that they're as great and loved/tributed to in Smash Bros as they are. Sakurai has done already amazing job on doing that.
I mean, it'd be great to see them now beat the hell out of million man armies, remember what happened to Wonderful 101 who tried to go Nintendo All Star-concept with their own concept, but it clashed with the existence of Smash Bros being out there? No wonder why they opted to go original IP with it.

I think what was most interesting about Hyrule Warriors though is that they took notable characters not seeing fighting before become a complete force to be reckoned with, each with their own style. I'm talking about folks like Fi, Ruto, Darunia and ESPECIALLY Agitha.
So I could perhaps propose something different, and that is taking characters that people have yearned to see in Smash and have big fanbases to be made their own game, perhaps in style of Dynasty Warriors. I mean, while Midna and Ghirahim are Assists in Smash, they still get their share of wide love in Hyrule Warriors. It's pretty sweet.

Basically, imagine popular but yet to be given spot-light-folks like Ridley (playable villain), popular Pokemon-protagonists or characters (Like Champion Cynthia, Steven Stone, etc) Waluigi Daisy Captain Toad, Isabelle (for laughs) and so on to be the playable characters.
We could also have playable spotlight given on friends or close companions of the characters featured usually in Smash, like Caeda for Marth, Soren for Ike, Krystal for (Star) Fox (Crew), Animal Friends or Ribbon for Kirby, Dixie Kong for the DK Duo, Poo or Paula for Ness, definitely Kumatora and Duster for Lucas, ya get it.

We could also imagine Mario-RPGs getting playables in form of Fawful, Dimentio, maybe Count Bleck and Starlow + Dreambert as a fighting duo. It'd make for surprise fun see them become suddenly badass enough to do Dynasty Warriors-style fighting. (And imagining their own personalized ways of doing it is really fun to imagine).

This could also be a good way to provide tribute some beloved C-List characters like Isaac, Starfy, etc - and it won't demand as much as putting them in Smash IMO.
Also retro characters like Takamaru, Lip or Prince Sable, Muddy Mole... heck, we could have a new WTF-character in the fray like in Smash.

IMO the character pool that is usually not enough for Sakurai to be used in Smash, would always be good for another game that doesn't demand as big expectations from the roster as from ones in Smash Bros.

Along the way we can look on the IPs they feature in a different viewpoints than what they're usually portrayed by, giving us this "deeper look" different from the mainstream impressions of the games.

But yeah, just my views on this. I'd love a game like this, but I personally think seeing one basically having Smash Bros's cast doing Dynasty Warriors would be just trying to coat Smash Bros needlessly on it while not giving it any spin or twist of it's own. There's much more that can be done with it.

 

[fogbadge]

be it smash bros warriors, mushroom kingdom warriors, dreamland warriors or even rhythm paradise warriors im up for it

 

[Brickbuild101]

Can Villager grow a giant tree, chop it down, pick up the chopped off half, and swing it around?

 

[mario123007]

I am really looking forward that Hyrule Warriors got awesome DLCs

 

[ErenJager]

I wouldn't mind a 2D arcade style fighting game done with smash characters, like mortal kombat without the gore.

 

[AbioFlesh]

I'm not really a big fan of Dynasty warrior's gameplay. But I would like to see something similar to Super Mario Sunshine/64 where there's a hub and characters can travel from there to the different Nintendo worlds Instead of focusing mostly on beating up hoards of enemies (which made SSE boring in a way), you complete different tasks, interact with the inhabitants, etc.