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Super Smash Bros (N64) Tournament Fundraiser on Jan. 11th in Chicago,IL ($250+ in prizes guaranteed)
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Sedda
Smash Champion
lol wow let's crucify the guy who's running the tourney for making his own rules...
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
No problem I am happy to clarify the rules. Everyone is guaranteed a minimum of 2 matches which are random for each tournament and that will determine who advances to the single elimination bracket. If the turnout is lower then expected or the tournament is moving very quickly, we could increase it to 3 or 4 games.
OK. I feel like a $20 entry fee with 40% going to your startup should buy at least a little seeding based on stocks or whatever (me and han solo are going to whomp everyone and it'd be lame if he got 13th cause I had to knock him out first round or vice versa) but I guess we'll understand if there's no time.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
I will put that into the rules then. So to clarify, for the matches before the seeding, we will count how many lives you had remaining to use for seeding. 1 seed will play against the lowest seed, 2 seed will play against the second lowest seed and so on. If there is a tie between stock count, we will choose the seed randomly. Is that fair with everyone?
Han Solo
Banned via Warnings
If you can confirm that there will be at least 10 entrants for 64 (counting me), then I'll head over to EXP right now.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
Check the facebook event page. In total there are about 80 people at least confirmed. I highly doubt EXP Gaming has a large enough venue to hold everyone from the pictures I saw.
It isn't happening at EXP because these events2compete guys got out there and advertised to the gigantic casual-but-competitive 64 community on every social media site and were really proactive. those EXP 64 tourneys have no participation, and if just the smashboards people show we might as well do a fest instead.
An advantage, obviously, is that the format of the tournament and the use of flatscreen TV's means that the tournament will be much simpler logistically and much cheaper to run than a traditional competitive event of a similar size, but the competitive 64 community could learn a lot from the example that's being set here. Even if not everything they're doing is applicable or desirable in a strictly competitive setting, 64 has a different player base than melee does and to some extent or other and the "growth" that we're always talking about should arise from an acknowledgment of that.
An advantage, obviously, is that the format of the tournament and the use of flatscreen TV's means that the tournament will be much simpler logistically and much cheaper to run than a traditional competitive event of a similar size, but the competitive 64 community could learn a lot from the example that's being set here. Even if not everything they're doing is applicable or desirable in a strictly competitive setting, 64 has a different player base than melee does and to some extent or other and the "growth" that we're always talking about should arise from an acknowledgment of that.
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EXPGaming
Smash Journeyman
Appreciate the support
At our last monthly (EXPosure 6) we had over 100 ppl come through the venue. Number of melee entrants was 88. EXP6 was listed as one of the top 25 notable melee tournaments of 2013 by Meleeitonme. There's more to our venue than what is in the pictures. Ignite is a very nice venue though and has been around a lot longer. I'm sure you will enjoy it & I hope the event goes well. EXP has done a lot to encourage more regular gatherings & tournaments for the local Melee & PM scene so perhaps you can do the same for Smash64.
Annex
Smash Ace
I'll go to any 64 tourneys EXP does too.
In the future though, you can just post them here. Nobody checks in Tournament Listings - Midwest.
In the future though, you can just post them here. Nobody checks in Tournament Listings - Midwest.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
Hey everyone, we've made some changes to the rules to accommodate the size of the tournament, which I can gladly say is much larger than we ever anticipated. We now have over 100 players confirmed through various websites that we've advertised on, and we are on track to possibly holding the largest SSB 64 tournament of all time set by Apex 2013 with 95 entrants. The tournament will now be now be running from 3-8 pm and possibly later on Saturday and the times for each tournament have changed as well. Please try to be there by 3 pm to register and to give us an idea of the total head count. Bring your own controller if you want, but controllers will be provided. Please no outside food or drinks. There is a cafe at the venue. Also, bring cash to enter for the tournaments. The payouts will be in cash, and the prizes will be announced once registration for each tournament has closed.
The 1v1 and 2v2 tournaments will now be double elimination, while still guaranteeing all players a minimum of 2 sets or 4 games. Free for all rules have changed as well. Each match for the 4 player free for all tournament will be timed 3 minutes, and the player with the lowest score (kills - deaths) will be eliminated. Another match will be held with the remaining 3 players and the lowest score will be eliminated and the top 2 players remaining will advance to the next round.
Due to popular demand, the losing player or team will now announce the stage before the winning team or player picks their character.
All sets will have a 20 minute time limit to keep the tournament on time.
We hope to see you all there on Saturday. Let us know before if you are bringing any friends as well that have not RSVP'd or if you will be arriving a little late. Also, take another look at the rules before you go. There are some other minor changes or clarifications not listed here, but a copy of the rules will be handed out to each player there.
The 1v1 and 2v2 tournaments will now be double elimination, while still guaranteeing all players a minimum of 2 sets or 4 games. Free for all rules have changed as well. Each match for the 4 player free for all tournament will be timed 3 minutes, and the player with the lowest score (kills - deaths) will be eliminated. Another match will be held with the remaining 3 players and the lowest score will be eliminated and the top 2 players remaining will advance to the next round.
Due to popular demand, the losing player or team will now announce the stage before the winning team or player picks their character.
All sets will have a 20 minute time limit to keep the tournament on time.
We hope to see you all there on Saturday. Let us know before if you are bringing any friends as well that have not RSVP'd or if you will be arriving a little late. Also, take another look at the rules before you go. There are some other minor changes or clarifications not listed here, but a copy of the rules will be handed out to each player there.
Han Solo
Banned via Warnings
I'm going to bring 2 CRTs with 64 and cartridge to help make the event run more smoothly.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
That's good to know. How many people can your venue hold? Currently we have over 100 confirmed for the tournament on Saturday. I appreciate the support though and maybe we can work something out in the future.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
I will keep you posted on this Han because we have an agreement to use 5 CRT's at Ignite currently and we would have to pay extra to use another. Our team will be bringing 5 CRT's with 64's and smash, but if anything comes up and we need support, or if you don't mind bringing it just in case that is fine as well. I'll let you know.
KnitePhox
Smash Lord
this seems much more legit than before, thanks for making appropriate changes and i hope there's more than enough setups
hyyyyyyype
hyyyyyyype
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
No problem. I'm sure there should be enough setups, and if not, we'll add another TV as well. Hope to see you there.
Han Solo
Banned via Warnings
Why would you have to pay to bring more CRTs lol? It's to accommodate the huge number of people that are going to be there to make the event run more smoothly. It's not going to cost them any money for us to bring CRTs.
Also, I don't know if you know this, but for making bracket, you can use either:
(online)
http://challonge.com/
or
(download to your computer)
http://tiopro.com/
Also, I don't know if you know this, but for making bracket, you can use either:
(online)
http://challonge.com/
or
(download to your computer)
http://tiopro.com/
Cobrevolution
Smash Master
anyone tryna fly rob out for his first visit to the windy city or nah
Han Solo
Banned via Warnings
It's literally too cold to fly here.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
It's part of our agreement but i'm going to try to talk to them to see if we can bring more tv's. Thanks for the links though. I will check them out.
meowmeowrainbowkitty
Smash Apprentice
yeah, please let us know.
I'd rather bring up a tv or two than have 100 players play on 5 crt setups.
On the chance that you can't get permission to bring more CRTs, is there any way we can opt not to play on a LCD? (or similarly, is there any way we can request to play on a CRT?)
I'd rather bring up a tv or two than have 100 players play on 5 crt setups.
On the chance that you can't get permission to bring more CRTs, is there any way we can opt not to play on a LCD? (or similarly, is there any way we can request to play on a CRT?)
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
Well we first booked the LCD TV's to use, but we decided to instead use CRT TV's so we will be bringing the CRT's. Ignite does not actually have any CRT's, only LCD's which they have 8 of. 4 are on one side of the venue which are being used for ps3's and xbox 360's, and the other 4 are where we will be holding the tournament, which I believe they will have to move the LCD's to make way for the CRT's. I will be asking them for permission to bring more CRT's, especially if there will be around 100 people attending. 5 TV's will not be enough for that many people. I will let everyone know once I hear back from them.
Annex
Smash Ace
Wow, now even FFA is hype...
This should be incredible.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
I spoke to Ignite and we have changed the agreement to allow us to bring up to 8 CRT's. If anyone could help us out by bringing a CRT TV, an n64, smash, and controllers, please let me know so we can get a count of how many we will have. Also, if you could be there by 2 pm we would really appreciate it. Thanks.
Annex
Smash Ace
1 TV, N64, and cart from me.
I'm sure you guys know this, but you're gonna have about 200 sets in singles, and what with calling out matches and getting people to their TV's and explaining the rules to them and whatnot it's gonna take 15 minutes a set easy. With 8 TV's you're looking at more than 6 hours for singles alone unless I'm missing something (previous experience with double-elim brackets suggests that I am not)
I'm not trying to tell you how to run your tournament, and I do have faith in you guys, but even if you're very strict with DQ'ing people who don't make it to their assigned setup (there will be a lot of those) it's my opinion that 8 setups for a hundred man tourney will lead to a stalled bracket and a lot of very grumpy people.
If the problem is that you guys don't have the setups for it, that's usually dealt with by having players bring them. I think you can count on maybe 5-6 from smashboards with CRT's (we'll see how right I am once people post; also, those are without controllers; I don't think any of us is going to loan out a controller for a million strangers to use nonstop for 5 hours), and other options include asking on fb and using some of the LCD's (not optimal but ports and storms and that) that ignite has (pretty sure most of the people on fb own/could bring an n64 + smash)
Enforcing a BYOC rule or only handing out controllers to people who absolutely needed them would help with the controller end of things
If the problem is with ignite I don't know what's going on there and I'm sure you're handling it as best you can
Sorry for the long post, say the word and I'll shut up. Just trying to avoid huge logistical hassles.
Oh, and I can bring an N64 + smash (plus a CRT or two if I end up getting a ride but I don't think that's gonna pan out)
I'm not trying to tell you how to run your tournament, and I do have faith in you guys, but even if you're very strict with DQ'ing people who don't make it to their assigned setup (there will be a lot of those) it's my opinion that 8 setups for a hundred man tourney will lead to a stalled bracket and a lot of very grumpy people.
If the problem is that you guys don't have the setups for it, that's usually dealt with by having players bring them. I think you can count on maybe 5-6 from smashboards with CRT's (we'll see how right I am once people post; also, those are without controllers; I don't think any of us is going to loan out a controller for a million strangers to use nonstop for 5 hours), and other options include asking on fb and using some of the LCD's (not optimal but ports and storms and that) that ignite has (pretty sure most of the people on fb own/could bring an n64 + smash)
Enforcing a BYOC rule or only handing out controllers to people who absolutely needed them would help with the controller end of things
If the problem is with ignite I don't know what's going on there and I'm sure you're handling it as best you can
Sorry for the long post, say the word and I'll shut up. Just trying to avoid huge logistical hassles.
Oh, and I can bring an N64 + smash (plus a CRT or two if I end up getting a ride but I don't think that's gonna pan out)
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Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
Great thank you.
Assuming 100 people show up to the tournament, that would mean roughly about 196 or 197 total sets for singles. We've been trying all day to come up with a rough estimate of how long on average a set will take, and we think it's going to be about 9-11 minutes considering it's likely that most sets will end up being 2 matches instead of 3. A rule sheet will be handed to each player and we are expecting everyone to understand the rules going into each match and to move fairly quickly to be able to finish the tournament on time. We will enforce a 2 minute waiting time before we start DQ'ing people that don't show up, but players will be given a heads up 1 set before they are supposed to play to keep things running smoothly. Based on that, we think the tournament will take 4 1/2 - 5 hours max. This is the worst case scenario with 8 tv's. We will try to bring extra tv's just in case this happens and hope that we have enough space, extra n64's, and cartridges to run for the extra tv's, and if Ignite allows us to use them. Currently, we are being told 8 tv's is the max for the space provided and the number of tables and chairs they have, plus the agreement we currently have with them.
But, like I said, this is assuming 100 people actually show up. My best guess is that in the end, 50-80 people will show up and the tournament will be done in under 4 hours, which should leave us with enough time for 2v2's and free for all. We have stopped all promoting and advertising for the tournament as of yesterday to prevent this from getting too big to the point where we won't even finish 1v1's in the scheduled time. I know if we keep promoting it until the day of the tournament, the record of 95 could easily be beaten, but i'm sad to say that would be too much to handle for this tournament and we will be more prepared to attempt that for the next tournament.
But, thank you for your feedback and we appreciate that and the fact that you'll help us out by bringing an N64 and smash. I will try to ask all the players to bring a controller with them and hopefully that issue will be resolved.
KnitePhox
Smash Lord
terrible news.... looks like ill be bringing a laptop with adapters haha
Well, I think you're probably right about the 50-80 entrants.
Nevertheless, I think you should try to get ignite to let you have at least 10 setups (seriously, it cuts time by 20% right off the bat and harms them in no way whatsoever, and smashboards people can provide. What's the problem?)
Nevertheless, I think you should try to get ignite to let you have at least 10 setups (seriously, it cuts time by 20% right off the bat and harms them in no way whatsoever, and smashboards people can provide. What's the problem?)
Komotonoto
Smash Journeyman
1 TV, N64 and cart from me. Will we be able to stream?
Han Solo
Banned via Warnings
I will bring 2 full setups (tv, cart, 64)
Komotonoto
Smash Journeyman
The way you play, this tourney will prob take more than 6 hours.
Events2Compete
Smash Journeyman
Is this for streaming or to play on? If it's for players to play on, we would have to use that only for practice or free play with an extra tv so that everything would be fair by only letting players play on N64's. If that's for streaming, then you are more than welcome to. If anyone is capable of streaming games, we would appreciate your help.
The problem right now is with the venue in that we have maxed out the number of spare tables and chairs we can use. We are being charged for each tv and we have now reached a max for the number of tv's we can bring for the 4 tables and 32 chairs they can provide. If too many players do show up, we will be forced to use more than 8 tv's and we will have to find a way to make that work. I would like to plan to have 10 of everything just in case the worst case scenario happens, but if less players show up, we will stick to the 8 that we have agreed upon. If anyone else is able to help out by bringing an N64 + smash or crt's and could be there by 2 pm to help set everything up, we would really appreciate the support.
Thank you very much. We are working that out trying to figure out if we can stream. Otherwise if anyone here can do that we would appreciate the help.
Thank you very much.
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EXPGaming
Smash Journeyman
Yea we own 9 CRTs that are always at the venue and we allow ppl to bring their own. iirc at our last monthly we had 20+ CRTs for tournament matches.
KnitePhox
Smash Lord
we'll see just how legit this gaming lounge or whatever they call themselves really is, if they don't allow more crts AFTER PEOPLE SHOW UP WITH THEM and there's obviously more than enough space with no power or fire hazards they're fake