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You know, that's a good point, especially since they're turned around by the D-Throw.From a frame perspective, that'd only mean it'd lose to shield and spotdodge, neither of which are really hard counters to jab (if counters at all).
Only if you delay it like crazy. You may as well Jab cancel -> F-Smash, grab, or Waft.If they spotdodge, is it safe to assume that Jab2 could hit?
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LVIrOb_NWM&list=UU6rVVnMepIfAN--vkMaTLMA&index=2&feature=plcpYesterday I found something interesting about the bike - I tested two things:
1) How to get off the bike in the first turn (on the ground)
and
2) In what direction(s) the tires pop out when the bike is broken
About 1): It seems that during the acceleration, if one tilts (smashes) the control stick backwards and hold it for a very short period of time, one gets of the bike immediately. I tested this a few times and in my older replays that I have saved on my SD-card, I did that a few times. I want to make a video about it, if it isn't widely known by you.
About 2): It seems that Wario's tilts make the tires often land near Wario (either by popping upwards or popping diagonally and land close to Wario). Also, when tossing the bike upwards, it almost always seems that at least one tire will land on the ground without bouncing, and in some cases it will roll fast forward on the ground. I want to investigate more about these "mechanics" of the tires popping out of the bike. It would be really interesting to see how they pop out by different attacks. But one conclusion is 100% sure: the tires pop out differently each time when the bike is broken. I want to make a video about that too.
Expect vids "soon".
I really like jab2 on battlefield, at mid to low percents you can hit your opponent juuuust right onto the platform where they are vulnerable to follow ups. You can then follow up with a Fair, which may produce some awesome combos!! You can see this in "Man of the Minute" against Falcon at 1:14 and Lucario at 1:42.you should never go straight for jab2 in the first place, the frame advantage on jab allows you to think before you finish the entire move
that does not mean you should never use jab2, in certain situations it can create a very much preferable situation (nb: snake at mid percentages)
I don't know. When I tested it on the Online Practice stage it seemed that when I smashed the joy stick bakwards while Wario accelerated I got of the bike. 0_o It seems also that Wario can get of the bike instantly, without this "acceleration thing". Well, I don't know. I'm not good at explaining things. All I know is that you can get of the bike really quick. =PUmmm I think they need a bit of work haha. The problem may be that our two explanations conflict. You claim that the instant crash is done by smashing the control stick backwards, while I think that it is done by buffering a turnaround and canceling the acceleration. Which one of us is right? We need a third party to test, it seems.