Strongest Character?

[DefinitelyNotSascha]

So I've asked myself: If every Smash Bros.-Character were to be put in a Battle Royale, how would the Rankings look like? I don't mean in Smash Bros itself, since that has to be balanced, I mean everyone with their canonical powers and abilities. What do you guys think?

 

[Frizz]

I'm sure this thread has been made already, but oh well. I would like to say Robin, but I can't let my fanboyism blind me, so I'll go with Mewtwo. His psychic powers are shown to change ordinary humans and other beings into stone from the first movie, and combine that with the power of Mega Evolution, and you got yourself an unstoppable tyrant. That's just my two cents on the matter, anyway.

 

[Stu R]

Ike cuz ATHER

 

[Red & Green]

Whoever else posts in this thread has a stupid opinion.

It is very obviously the KING HIMSELF who will royally dominate every peasant who stands in his way. No exceptions.

 

[SimonBarSinister]

I'm sure this thread has been made already, but oh well. I would like to say Robin, but I can't let my fanboyism blind me, so I'll go with Mewtwo. His psychic powers are shown to change ordinary humans and other beings into stone from the first movie, and combine that with the power of Mega Evolution, and you got yourself an unstoppable tyrant. That's just my two cents on the matter, anyway.

But is the other half of a legendary monster that has the power to bring the entire world to ruin. And he can summon warriors to aid him at will (though that might just be teleportation magic instead of outright summoning them). On top of that, only one thing could end him for good.

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Whoever else posts in this thread has a stupid opinion.

It is very obviously the KING HIMSELF who will royally dominate every peasant who stands in his way. No exceptions.

Other than the perpetual black hole that is. He can never seem to clobbah dat dere Kirbeh.

...Wait. Which king are we talking about here? Because there's 2.

Scratch that. 3.

 

[LeifEriksson]

Shulk can see the future, so I think that at least makes him one of the best fighters.

 

[Frizz]

But is the other half of a legendary monster that has the power to bring the entire world to ruin. And he can summon warriors to aid him at will (though that might just be teleportation magic instead of outright summoning them). On top of that, only one thing could end him for good.

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Not to mention that he's an ingenious tactician whose strategies are unmatched. He could probably whip up a plan or two to successfully beat every other contender at the lowest risk possible.

 

[SimonBarSinister]

Not to mention that he's an ingenious tactician whose strategies are unmatched. He could probably whip up a plan or two to successfully beat every other contender at the lowest risk possible.

Does setting your own ship on fire with the hopes of causing collateral damage count as low-risk?

Because I think that's the opposite.

 

[Airpoizon]

Little Mac can punch

 

[Frizz]

Does setting your own ship on fire with the hopes of causing collateral damage count as low-risk?

Because I think that's the opposite.

Well, it worked, didn't it?

 

[ElectroLightning]

Ganondorf is immune to anything that isn't holy, soooooo.

 

[Red & Green]

Ganondorf is immune to anything that isn't holy, soooooo.

So what you're saying is Palutena and Pit can wipe him out extremely easily. Who's the better character, though...?

 

[MajinBuu272]

duck hunt dog? hes invincible and his laughing at your failures will cause his opponents to go insane

 

[ElectroLightning]

So what you're saying is Palutena and Pit can wipe him out extremely easily. Who's the better character, though...?

Yeah. But even then, Ganon has the Triforce of Power.

 

[SimonBarSinister]

Ganondorf is usually pegged as the most powerful being in Nintendo's history. Nothing seems to truly end him for good.

Though he hasn't made an appearance in Toonie's world since getting an evil-slaying sword to the skull, being turned to stone and left at the bottom of the ocean. Triforce of Power or not, that might be hard to recover from. .....Unless maybe someone (or something) finds a way to yank the sword out..... But only the chosen hero should be able to do that.

 

[ElectroLightning]

I forgot 1 very important person, Mario.

http://www.ign.com/blogs/shaw98/2014/06/08/mario-can-pick-up-my-house-the-true-strength-of-mario

 

[SimonBarSinister]

Kirby can pretty much split Pop Star in half with a punch.

 

[Uchihadark7]

Well even I hate to say it, but does anyone remember the Death Battle with Kirby where they revealed he's basically invincible?

 

[ElectroLightning]

Kirby can pretty much split Pop Star in half with a punch.

Well even I hate to say it, but does anyone remember the Death Battle with Kirby where they revealed he's basically invincible?

I'm not sure that's canon...

 

[Matt11111]

I'm not sure that's canon...

I'm not sure either. But maybe... Just maybe.

 

[Spookghetti]

Im pretty sure wario would last long in the fight, he is literally invincible in his own games, not to mention his other powers, disguises, AND Warioman.

 

[rlwrgh]

Id say ganondorf with mewtwo being a very close second

 

[Twewy]

ROB, because he's actually real.

 

[SimonBarSinister]

Im pretty sure wario would last long in the fight, he is literally invincible in his own games, not to mention his other powers, disguises, AND Warioman.

I totally forgot about . You can flatten him, turn him into a zombie, roast him, freeze him and all other sorts of abuse, and what does he do? Walks it off with a laugh and comes back for more. As stated above, that's not even taking Wario-Man into account. It's just at that point he's immune to damage, possesses flight and can run as fast as (well, anyway, never tested it in Smash 4).

 

[rlwrgh]

good point on kirby eating planets I may need to reconsider my vote.

 

[Sephazon]

Not to mention that he's an ingenious tactician whose strategies are unmatched. He could probably whip up a plan or two to successfully beat every other contender at the lowest risk possible.

Unfortunately, you can't always simply light your boats on fire and launch them towards the enemy to win a fight.

 

[Frizz]

Unfortunately, you can't always simply light your boats on fire and launch them towards the enemy to win a fight.

Not even paper boats?

 

[Sephazon]

Not even paper boats?

Look, if you've managed to make paper boats float, you're to be respected for much more than your war shenanigans.

 

[ElectroLightning]

I totally forgot about . You can flatten him, turn him into a zombie, roast him, freeze him and all other sorts of abuse, and what does he do? Walks it off with a laugh and comes back for more. As stated above, that's not even taking Wario-Man into account. It's just at that point he's immune to damage, possesses flight and can run as fast as (well, anyway, never tested it in Smash 4).

Mewtwo can just remove the knowledge of breathing from his brain.

 

[Crystanium]

Samus wins.

Power bomb TNT equivalence
For some time I’ve been using TNT as the explosive material for Samus’ power bombs, but I suspect that I’ve been doing this incorrectly all this time, simply because nuclear bombs use fissiles, material capable of sustaining a nuclear fission chain reaction. While the use of G. I. Taylor’s method, (R^5 ρ) / t^2 [1] isn’t incorrect, the assumption that power bombs use TNT is. Indeed, TNT is one of the most common explosives, but for nuclear weapons? I don’t think so. That would be Uranium-235.

From UC Davis ChemWiki, [2] we are told that the amount of mass lost in the fission process is equal to 3.2 × 10^-11 J. We are then asked how much energy would be released if 1 gram of U-235 undergone fission. The equation for this is as follows:

(1.00 g. 235-U) × (1 mol 235-U/235 g. 235-U) × (6.022 × 10^23 atoms 235-U/1 mol 235-U) × (3.2 × 10^-11 J/1 atom 235-U)

This is equal to 8.2 ×10^10 J. We don’t know the volume of Samus’ power bombs, but that’s all right. The required critical mass for U-235 with a neutron reflector is 15 kg. [2] This is obviously more than 1 g., so with the aforementioned calculation, just how much energy would come from 15 kg. of U-235? A total of 1,230,025,531,914,893.62 J, or 293.98 kilotons of TNT. I’m sure some may take issue with this calculation, but even if only 2% of U-235 actually blew up like it happened with Little Boy (a different bomb of its own), that still leaves us with 5.88 kt of TNT.

1. Estimate of the energy released in the first Atomic Bomb explosion.
2. Fission and Fusion – UC Davis ChemWiki
3. Critical Mass – Atomic Archive, p. 3

 

[ElectroLightning]

Samus wins.

Power bomb TNT equivalence
For some time I’ve been using TNT as the explosive material for Samus’ power bombs, but I suspect that I’ve been doing this incorrectly all this time, simply because nuclear bombs use fissiles, material capable of sustaining a nuclear fission chain reaction. While the use of G. I. Taylor’s method, (R^5 ρ) / t^2 [1] isn’t incorrect, the assumption that power bombs use TNT is. Indeed, TNT is one of the most common explosives, but for nuclear weapons? I don’t think so. That would be Uranium-235.

From UC Davis ChemWiki, [2] we are told that the amount of mass lost in the fission process is equal to 3.2 × 10^-11 J. We are then asked how much energy would be released if 1 gram of U-235 undergone fission. The equation for this is as follows:

(1.00 g. 235-U) × (1 mol 235-U/235 g. 235-U) × (6.022 × 10^23 atoms 235-U/1 mol 235-U) × (3.2 × 10^-11 J/1 atom 235-U)

This is equal to 8.2 ×10^10 J. We don’t know the volume of Samus’ power bombs, but that’s all right. The required critical mass for U-235 with a neutron reflector is 15 kg. [2] This is obviously more than 1 g., so with the aforementioned calculation, just how much energy would come from 15 kg. of U-235? A total of 1,230,025,531,914,893.62 J, or 293.98 kilotons of TNT. I’m sure some may take issue with this calculation, but even if only 2% of U-235 actually blew up like it happened with Little Boy (a different bomb of its own), that still leaves us with 5.88 kt of TNT.

1. Estimate of the energy released in the first Atomic Bomb explosion.
2. Fission and Fusion – UC Davis ChemWiki
3. Critical Mass – Atomic Archive, p. 3

Do you work for Game Theory?

 

[SimonBarSinister]

Hmm. Power Bombs can vaporize just about anything (except the most hardened of foes). I forgot about that.

Mewtwo can just remove the knowledge of breathing from his brain.

You don't figure out how to breathe. You just do.

 

[Crystanium]

Do you work for Game Theory?

No. I'm not happy with MatPat's direction in Game Theory.