Story time with (Lux)-The Legend of EAlert aka the Fastest Pivot Grab from Down Under

[Sieguest]

The only time the throw in a CG is truly unmashable is after Nana performs a dthrow. This is true for the entire roster (or at least as far as I've gone). I'll explain more later today after I tweak the chart and finish the rest of the cast.

 

[toobusytocare]

i dont get it...
make a video lol

 

[DeLux]

A video isn't going to show you anything useful. Other than seeing someone doing a super fast pivot grab.

Just do a stutter step fsmash, but then hit grab right after fsmash.

 

[toobusytocare]

Do I just do it oos?
I understand what it is, im not sure what it's applications are

 

[DeLux]

Uhhhhhhhhh...

Play around with it. I'm sure you'll find something you want to pivot grab at some point.

 

[toobusytocare]

well you were talking about punishing tornado and i was wondering how this would punish nado any better than a normal pivot grab (which doesnt work if the MK waits for it then nados in after)

 

[Sieguest]

Methinks Lux was talking more about using it as a reactionary move.
Using a boost pivot grab comes out at least 6 frames faster. So it's much better to punish nados starting close to you with. Or catching a misspaced nado as it comes to you.

 

[lain]

The reason mach tornado ***** you (& every other IC player in the world) is partly because you're already committed to doing something like stupidly desyncing too close. The much BIGGER reason it ***** IC's is MK's will tornado higher then the pivot grab spacing, still hitting you. If you shield it, they retreat to a platform.

I've heard countless stories of people trying to figure out what to do. Usmash, Pivot-fsmash, di the first tornado hits outwards and grab.

Yeah this is a good way to pivot, but it's not really an answer to tornado.

 

[DeLux]

True.

The point of the technique is to reduce the risk of accidentally roll cancelling a pivot grab. If you can get a grab because an MK misspaces nado, great. But I would think that a faster technique if horizontally zoned would allow for more aggressive desyncs. Not stupid close, just more space/reaction frames than one had before. So it's a help imo.

The point of the long story in the OP was satire. I was talking to another labbie, and he and I were like, "People don't like technique based instructions because they can't relate to it." So I decided to write an anecdotal piece instead of strict ACRONYM instructions to a technique.

 

[RoanYagyu]

Interesting, since i first started messing around with ICs ive been using that to pivot grab just cause it felt easier to me, now i know why :D