Still don't know how to do any of that flashy stuff. :(

[Zeron]

Multishines, phantasm ledge stall, ledge hop double laser..eh, more so the multishines since I want to learn those for shield pressure. Any help? What buttons to use?

 

[SCOTU]

You don't need to know how to do that flashy stuff. but anyway, for jc shines, you jump, then the first frame you're airborne, you shine. you'll land by the time you can jump out again. See link to Frame Q&A in my sig for the exact frame counts (2nd post'll have it).

 

[Zeron]

Shine (down+B, pressing B with thumb) and then jump with X. Is it all speed for multiple shines? Can't get my thumb to B quick enough to do a shine right after I jump cancel my first shine. Am I doing something wrong or am I just not quick enough?

 

[Zankoku]

You're just not quick enough. Alternatively, you can try claw method or Y to B.

 

[-Kazman-]

Read a Falco Guide or something, videos could help I guess =/

 

[th0rn]

You should focus more on being good than flashy.

 

[Stryk9]

yeah let eh flashyness evolve naturally as you try to get good as thron syays, flashiness is usualy a by product of goodness except your also good not just someone who can multishine
















*runs to pract jc shine, ledgestalls, shine turnarounds,doubleshine waveshines and lasers trixxxkies

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

The only flashy thing that is regularly useful is the LHDL. Just hit the control stick down when hanging off the ledge, and maybe about a falco body length down, flick the control stick upwards, hit b, move the control stick towards the stage (make sure you see him pull the gun) so you'll land on it, and hit b again.

 

[SCOTU]

and shine grabbing. That's "flashy" and useful. Whatever "flashy" means anyway... i never really understood the term.

 

[technomancer]

Multishines, phantasm ledge stall, ledge hop double laser..eh, more so the multishines since I want to learn those for shield pressure. Any help? What buttons to use?

B for all of the above! It seems like you just need to practice sliding from y to b a bit faster.

 

[Lit]

i think u should only become a flashy player when your base skill is at its peak. But thats just me.

 

[SCOTU]

or do it like me, and learn all the tech tricks before learning how to play, making it very difficult to be good.

 

[technomancer]

The more tricks you know the less you'll have trouble adapting to anyone's style. Flashy players are fine and generally do better than nonflashy players in tournaments, but get beat by people who know how to deal with their crap. Obviously doing stuff that is worse than just the basic stuff will hurt you though.

 

[brawlpro]

or do it like me, and learn all the tech tricks before learning how to play, making it very difficult to be good.

hah lol at scotu!

well multi shines aren't hard...first shine then hit the control stick up to jump then hit it back down then press b...just make sure not to firefox by pressing b to early, still...skillz more important.

 

[jacobrhcp]

he's kidding >_> multishines are hard as hell since you need really fast fingers

and whats fantasm ledge stall? you mean just fall, jump and fantasm to the ledge again? because you can do that... thats really easy. But maybe you mean something else >_______>

for the ledgehop double laser, try using the stick to jump

 

[Falco&Victory]

Phantasm edge stall is when you hit the edge with the bottom of the phantasm, so you get stuck for a second before dashing a short distance onto the stage. It's really easy. Again PRACTICE, there are no shortcuts. Or just wait for Brawl.

 

[Zeron]

Actually talking about that evil phantasm stall that Zhu does. :o

 

[greenlink]

I have a challenge for all you amazing falcos who can multishine and phantasm stall...
try putting a duvet cover on with no hands! Thats right if you succesfully do that with no hand use at all in under 4 mins then shall give you pie.

Neways i think when he says phantasm stall he means firebird stall exept with the phanasm.

Actually talking about the evil phantasm stall that Zhu does.

-missed your post.

 

[Falco&Victory]

Oh, that's easy. Do you mean press B during the phantasm to stop it? You can either get the timing right or jackhammer the B button.

 

[Zeron]

No, not shortening the phantasm either. <_<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6FIoyCxfI

Trailer for one of Zhu's combo vids (already out). Watch 0:50 and beyond. Zhu can pull that phantasm stall constantly.

 

[Falco&Victory]

Oooooh, ok, this is how to break it down. Flick your finger right and left as FAST as you can, and immediatly press B while flicking it left. Or left to right if you're on the other side of the stage of course. It's simple with practice.

 

[brawlpro]

**** i thought it was just timing it like with the firefox/bird...

 

[captainlukey]

what usefullness does a shine grab have can someone fill me in please

 

[Miharu]

No, not shortening the phantasm either. <_<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6FIoyCxfI

Trailer for one of Zhu's combo vids (already out). Watch 0:50 and beyond. Zhu can pull that phantasm stall constantly.

Drop with cstick, then quickly do a forward b. That's all.

Btw, it's nearly useless. Don't bother with most of this ****; learn your bread and butter stuff first.

 

[SCOTU]

what usefullness does a shine grab have can someone fill me in please

Useful against shields. Can't be shieldgrabed.