Spiking Tips

[Gotham7]

Can somebody give me some tips on spiking? Sometimes I just plummet to my death and I miss hitting the opponent a lot.

 

[Papapaint]

Check out my falco guide. Good explanation of how it all works in there.

 

[neji49]

I was just about to make a topic on this... how conicidental. Anyways I'm new at Falco's advanced strategies so I'm having trouble setting up his spike. I don't even know ho it worked in melee and so Brawl's going to be hard to figure out on my own. Does anybody have any exact setups for spiking?

 

[The true_blade]

Man i need this info 2 i miss my spikes alot but it seems like they work best when facing away from oponnent and their coming from above

 

[Pengie]

For me the easiest way is to jump off of the stage, use my second jump and then use my D-air while rising.

 

[Papapaint]

In the thread, I explain exactly how the d-air's hitbox works. Take a look at that, it'll clear things up. Go into training mode and practice it.

 

[perezo]

spiking

Yeah i know what you mean, the ting is you want to always jump off the ground once and try to spike the person, i finally got familiar with the melee spike but know the made a sweetspot. Anyways just try to spike, double jump back, and side-b or up-b back on. Also quickly snap the controller, if you don't you just fastfall to your doom....

 

[Dacman]

you can also spike w/ side-B. double jump off the stage on a horizontal plane and side B back when the opponent is rising. I like this one because no one expects it and its pretty fast. it much harder to do than dair spike, simply because theres a good chance you will miss or get hit by opponent's up-B recovery.

 

[B0mbe1c]

I mainly use it against UpB's, or when opponent is off-stage. What I dont like is if you dont hit them when you initiate the move, they will go away from you and slightly up, so they could still live.

 

[Dustero]

The best way to do it is to short hop off the ledge, then use your second jump and when you're above your opponent, use your dair. It work everytime, as long as you don't get hit by their recovery move. Also don't try to spike against a Link because it is nearly impossible to get in between his blades and spike him.

Also I thougth his Dair as a meteor smash.


Also Dacman, can you PM me some tips for using your side B as a spike?

 

[Drakuaza]

go see almightypankake's thread <.<

 

[neji49]

I've looked at his thread. Several times actually, it's been helpful but my problem with spiking isn't really hitting with the spike persay, it's more of getting to my target. If you short hop of the stage will your second jump carry you far enough?Also, what percentages are ideal for spiking? Finally, should you spike somebody below the stage? Itry and I almost always suicide(even on the rare occasions the spike connects). Thanks

 

[Codi]

>For me the easiest way is to jump off of the stage, use my second jump and then use my D-air while rising

same here

 

[Drakuaza]

if it helps, look at my vids, i show how to spike

 

[redgreenblue]

Your dair should be preformed exactly when your secondary jump is performed. That way you can recover as soon as your dair and secondary jump return to neutral position. If you do it too late, you will be too low/too far away for a phantasm/fire bird.

Also, dair is a spike; phantasm is a meteor smash. Just clearing things up.

 

[Ceruvik]

Quick question: What's the difference between a spike and a meteor smash? BTW you can spike after chaingrabbing.

 

[redgreenblue]

In 64 and Brawl, there is no difference between a meteor smash and a spike, since there is no meteor canceling. Spikes are usually performed and launch the opponent faster, though.

 

[Papapaint]

In 64 and Brawl, there is no difference between a meteor smash and a spike, since there is no meteor canceling. Spikes are usually performed and launch the opponent faster, though.

Completely wrong. You can meteor cancel in brawl.

 

[Spudnick]

I had a lot of trouble setting up my spikes so that the opponent actually went downward rather than slightly up and away too. But now, I can usually pull it off when an opponenet is recovering and is pretty close by shorthopping off the edge and while you're still going up hitting down on the c-stick. I think somebody else mentioned this in a guide, but you want to hit them with falco's shins to get the full spike effect.

 

[redgreenblue]

Completely wrong. You can meteor cancel in brawl.

Uh, no you can't. Where is your proof?