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Nooooo, No. The buy out may have happened before the release of MvC3, but the agreements would've been settled before-hand via contract to use those characters. The first trailer being revealed a year after the buyout helps support this, since developing games on that scale is time consuming. All in all, it makes complete sense as to why the X-Men were in MvC 3, but not MvC: I.
i meant they were debating how hard the negotiations would be far harder than actual negotiations might go
I have a feeling if another fighter pass happens, it’ll be full of 1st party characters though. Seeing as how this fighter pass consists of only 3rd party characters.
Sora is actually Disney owned. I really want a Square rep AND Sora as the series first Disney rep but we'll see.
I'm quite certain I've seen the opposite directly proved, that its Square Owned.
I used to think that. It was always my understanding that Disney owned Disney trademarks and Square owned KH original properties (non-Disney worlds, characters like Sora and Roxas and Kairi) but there's a few videos I've watched on the matter and interviews that I've read that say Disney is the owner of these properties as well. However, despite it not being jointly owned, Disney still respects Tetsuya Nomora and his devotion for the Kingdom Hearts brand, and as such will always notify, involve, and get approval from him before doing ANYTHING with the properties. Ever. That's the understanding I've gathered from multiple sources.
yeah the copyright notices on each game say it belongs to disney
Kingdom Hearts is 100% owned by Disney but Square has development rights over the games. But they do not actually own the IP that is still Disney and it's something that has been confirmed by the Vice President of Disney Japan. Also people from a gaming perspective see Sora as a Square character because he has never had a game that wasn't made by them.
THREE ACTUALLY. Yoko already makes some of the music tracks for Smash Bros, When Cloud was announced Nomura drew his poster for the game and Square, of course, gave the rights for Cloud. And Disney of Japan already said they would be interested in Sora getting in Smash.
because if Sora is added into the game he would play so similarly to Hero that it would be more of an echo fighter. And I dont believe 'generic anime swordsman' is entirely correct to say as he seems to have a huge moveset. with most of it being magic of some kind
Well I'm fairly serious, Hero's moveset is pretty dang close to what I was expecting from Sora, How would you differentiate them?
That's not how Sora swings the Keyblade. Sora can't turn into metal, or self-destruct, or use sleep magic, or self-buff.
On top of that, he'd be more of an aerial fighter if nothing else. His style of gameplay should, for all intents and purposes, be fundamentally different from what we're seeing from Edrick.
This is not true. Kingdom Hearts V-cast was a game where SE had no involvement with it. The game flopped hard (and so did the V-cast) but it still exists as an official title which was released by another developer that wasn't Square Enix.
Sora actually can use sleep magic he learns it in KH DDD by getting it from the Tama Sheep mirage board. As for self buffing... uh? Have you played KH1 because that's literally what Aero magic was in that game it was a defense and evade extender self buff. everything else I agree with though.
Sora would play pretty much nothing like DQ Hero, the magic that they use isn't even the same apart from like what? Fire? If you actually look at DQ Hero he looks like he borrows a **** ton from link for his basic sword combos pretty much every one of his attacks are Link's attacks. The only thing thats different about him compared to Link is his magic attacks that's about it. Sora's basic sword swings and magic attacks on the other hand would very likely look completely different from all the other characters in the game mainly due to the fact that we already know his sword combos do look completely different from the sword combos of Marth,Ike, and Link. And Sora has magic attacks that look nothing like anything we already have in the game, things like Reflect, stop magic, water magic, explosion, gravity magic, magnet magic, and even balloon magic. Along with his other more well know projectile elemental magic fire, thunder, and aero magic that would look/ function similarly to stuff other characters have.
I forgot Sleep and Aero, it's been a while since I've played 1 or DDD.
I understand all of that but if Nintendo and Sakurai (especially Sakurai) are looking for unique character potential the gameplay mechanics for Hero and Sora would be very similar. With the MP gauge and scroll menu. With half the moveset being sword and the other magic of some kind.
There are literally dozens of other gimmicks you could give Sora and you think they'd copy-paste the MP system? Yeah, magic is useful in KH, but it's only a small part of how combo'ing works there.
with the scroll menu logic Cloud should have had one too since FF also has the same type of magic menu but he didn't so there's nothing saying Sora absolutely NEEDS to have that mechanic to be in the game, and as for an MP gauge they could just give him his KH2/KH3 MP gauge bar and call it a day at the end of the day it's just a limit meter anyway. Also if they can give a similar mechanic to another character other Cloud and Little Mac they can give it to another one and be just fine. Lastly like I stated before Sora's sword combos look and feel completely different to any other sword character's sword combos. He swings completely differently, moves differently and behaves differently in his attacks compared to other sword characters in the game. You can literally see that in any KH game if you've ever played any of the KH games and looked at Sora attacking. Sora doesn't feel like Link, he doesn't feel like Marth, and he doesn't even feel like Cloud. If we're going off of characters feeling similar to each other or borrowing from each other for candidacy over half the roster shouldn't be in the game INCLUDING DQ Hero by that logic, and that's the problem with the argument you're giving. It's that the game we're talking about itself doesn't even follow that idea that, that's how it works. If your point is that Sora would be "very similar" to DQ Hero because he's a sword character that uses magic and DQ Hero is a sword character that uses magic then the same can be said about DQ Hero compared to Robin and the argument is still just as bad. You're actively ignoring every other thing that could and would make Sora stand out on his own as a character at that point and that's my problem with your argument.
The MP stuff was just an example of what would of made Sora unique.
That's the same style of menu basically all Square RPGs tend to use and as for my comparison to Robin and DQ was due to them mechanically being quite similar in practice. They're both from a design perspective the same archetype of fighter aka strong magical ability having melee fighters. Not saying I think they're super similar though as that just isn't true but they do share similarities and that's my point.
They have aesthetic similarities but no real gameplay ones.
