Sora Unlocks the Door! (Roxas as an Echo?)

Sora's chances of getting in?


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AncientArk

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Yeah, but you gotta finish the game with certain conditions met to get both Oathkeeper and Oblivion.
So it's like, guess I'll just go without :C
 

M@R!3

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Yeah, but you gotta finish the game with certain conditions met to get both Oathkeeper and Oblivion.
So it's like, guess I'll just go without :C
We don't really know the conditions to get them yet, but yeah, it's speculated that the proofs will be the unlock requirement. We are getting some new abilities with the patch too. So there will be something there for those who haven't beaten it yet.
 

M@R!3

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I've been watching a bit of gameplay post 1.09. The new abilities are exactly what people wanted so Osaka Team has clearly been listening. There were also some adjustments to base abilities with Speed Slash and Triple Rush now being cancelable, and Magic Flash now has increased range. Oathkeeper and Oblivion are incredible looking, and Double Form is a spectacle to behold. Haven't seen any of Remind itself yet, but I've heard most of the content is in the Limit Cut episode. While that appeals to me, it sounds like those expecting a more overhauled and significant story experience may find Remind a bit much at $30.
 

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Tried out the new abilities and Oathkeeper on my old save. I love what they did with the new abilities and forms. Started a new run on critical as well, but I'll need more time to form a proper opinion on how much it improves the game. From my brief time it's looking like crowds are generally much more manageable, but certain problem enemies (earth, water, fire cores) will likely remain an issue. I'll be staying away from Remind till I finish the main game, but I would love to hear opinions on it and the new patch.
 

Double0Groove

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So now that Dual Form is actually a thing now, there would be a very huge missed opportunity to exclude Roxas as an Echo Fighter
Assuming that they put in any new echo fighters at all. Btw, who else would be interested in the Smash team just making new DLC echo fighters and selling them for $2-$3 a pop? With tweaks that make sense for the characters.
Like Shantae being a Belmont echo fighter
Nightmare being a Ganondorf echo fighter
Roxas being a Sora echo fighter (assuming we get him)
 

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Assuming that they put in any new echo fighters at all. Btw, who else would be interested in the Smash team just making new DLC echo fighters and selling them for $2-$3 a pop? With tweaks that make sense for the characters.
Like Shantae being a Belmont echo fighter
Nightmare being a Ganondorf echo fighter
Roxas being a Sora echo fighter (assuming we get him)
That's not how echo fighters even remotely work

How do people still not understand this
 

Double0Groove

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That's not how echo fighters even remotely work

How do people still not understand this
Without any proper explanation to go off of, I guess I'm to assume that you're trying to say all echo fighters need to be a one to one copy of the fighters they're based off of. And so, my only retort is:
Chrom
 

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Without any proper explanation to go off of, I guess I'm to assume that you're trying to say all echo fighters need to be a one to one copy of the fighters they're based off of. And so, my only retort is:
Chrom
No, but they have to have the same skeleton as their base. They can't be a different shape or height.

On top of that, echo would be a disservice to Shantae and Nightmare. In fact, I doubt you've played any of their games, because they play nothing like Belmont or Ganon

Also Chrom has one move different than Roy, a better retort would've been Ken.
 
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Hadokeyblade

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It's most likely pointless to hope but I hope Sora brings this song with him if he gets in:

It's pointless because if Sora is getting in then negotiations have been done for a long while now and this song is too recent. On top of most likely having less songs by default.
 

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It's most likely pointless to hope but I hope Sora brings this song with him if he gets in:

It's pointless because if Sora is getting in then negotiations have been done for a long while now and this song is too recent. On top of most likely having less songs by default.
weve had songs for unreleased games in the past
 

Double0Groove

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No, but they have to have the same skeleton as their base. They can't be a different shape or height.

On top of that, echo would be a disservice to Shantae and Nightmare. In fact, I doubt you've played any of their games, because they play nothing like Belmont or Ganon

Also Chrom has one move different than Roy, a better retort would've been Ken.
You got me with skeleton comment. I never even knew that.

"Nothing"? Really? Like, I get that with Shantae, she has a list of transformations that the Belmonts can't use, but it's wholly inaccurate to suggest that they'd play nothing alike (heck her game is literally inspired by the castlevania). Even more so with Ganondorf and Nightmare. Seems like you're the one who hasn't played much of their games.

Not gonna lie, I completely forgot about Ryu, but Chrom still works as a perfect example of an echo fighter not needing to be a 100% copy moveset-wise. At the very least, I now have 2 examples of this should the need ever arise for me to make the argument.
 

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You got me with skeleton comment. I never even knew that.

"Nothing"? Really? Like, I get that with Shantae, she has a list of transformations that the Belmonts can't use, but it's wholly inaccurate to suggest that they'd play nothing alike (heck her game is literally inspired by the castlevania). Even more so with Ganondorf and Nightmare. Seems like you're the one who hasn't played much of their games.

Not gonna lie, I completely forgot about Ryu, but Chrom still works as a perfect example of an echo fighter not needing to be a 100% copy moveset-wise. At the very least, I now have 2 examples of this should the need ever arise for me to make the argument.
...one thing that's similar does not make them echo material. One thing different (like Chrom) does.

Shantae's hair whip is the only thing she has in common with the Belmonts, and even then, their whips go farther than her hair does.

Nightmare, on the other hand, has an entire style switching mechanic and wields a sword far bigger than Ganon's ever had. If your only experience with Ganon is Smash, you don't know anything about him. Watch pizzadudemanguy pizzadudemanguy 's video on Nightmare to get a better idea of how he could work. Calling Shantae or Nightmare echo fighter material is a disservice to their character and their legacy.
 

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This is out of the blue, but what would his ring name be? Never played KH before so I don't know what Sora does in the game.
 
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