Someone explain to me why wave dashing is even popular?

[ItsChon]

Seriously Doh. Rally da troops.

I believe in the movement. Vive la revolution. We should make a thread.

 

[Spak]

Seriously Doh. Rally da troops.

Everyone gather your swords and turnips, Melee's meta just got a lot more interesting.

#FalconWinsANational #SpaciesLowTier #Jiggs2OP #PeachLives4Dayz

 

[Spak]

Seriously Doh. Rally da troops.

Everyone gather your swords and turnips, Melee's meta just got a lot more interesting.

#FalconWinsANational #SpaciesLowTier #Jiggs2OP #PeachLives4Dayz
...
EDIT: #StupidComputerAccidentallyPostedThisTwice
#SorryAboutThat

 

[ItsChon]

Everyone gather your swords and turnips, Melee's meta just got a lot more interesting.

#FalconWinsANational #SpaciesLowTier #Jiggs2OP #PeachLives4Dayz

Everyone gather your swords and turnips, Melee's meta just got a lot more interesting.

#FalconWinsANational #SpaciesLowTier #Jiggs2OP #PeachLives4Dayz
...
EDIT: #StupidComputerAccidentallyPostedThisTwice
#SorryAboutThat

Post is so important, requires 2 for emphasis.

 

[Acryte]

Post is so important, requires 2 for emphasis.

Hahaha too good. The revolution cannot be stopped!

 

[SSBMLahti]

And there was much rejoicing!

Yo!

Seriously Doh. Rally da troops.

Yoooooo!

 

[ssknight7]

Best thread hijack ever

 

[AirFair]

The year is 20XX.... All the Foxes and Falcos of the world have been driven into exile. More and more low tiers are placing in nationals. Marth and Sheik become more popular. While Hax may riot against the overwhelming change, his cries fall on deaf ears.
It's too late.

 

[Spak]

What do they mean by "No results found for #shineban"? Is the concept foreign to them?

 

[ItsChon]

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What do they mean by "No results found for #shineban"? Is the concept foreign to them?

Blasphemy.

 

[L337m0j0]

Let's ignore all of the entire arguments concerning developer intent, what constitutes a glitch, and whether things should be banned even if they are outright glitches (Mario's up-B walljump and Ness's Yo-yo glitch remain legal in all tournaments).

Wavedashing refers to airdodging into the ground. If you wanted to ban this action, how would you go about it? Obviously you can say "no airdodging into the ground", but what does that even include? Is it considered a wavedash if I SH and am totally airborne before airdodging? What happens if someone accidentally airdodges? Who is the judge of whether an airdodge constituted a wavedash or not. My opponent might say I wavedashed while I insist I merely airdodged diagonally towards the ground.

If we decide to go ahead and try to ban wavedashing even with all of the problems, what else would we have to ban because it constitutes a physics exploit? Is ledge cancelling an exploit? It certainly doesn't seem like Sakurai designed the ledge to purposefully cancel landing lag. He simply had to choose how to handle that situation and decide to cancel it. This is no different than the mentality he had for WDing. He had to decide what to do if a player airdodged towards the ground. He chose to handle the situation by transferring the momentum onto the ground in landfallspecial. If he designed the game to work that way, what makes it an exploit? Obviously he didn't anticipate people using this mechanic to move around all the time, but he also didn't anticipate people jump cancelling shines. Is that also a physics exploit that should be banned?

WDing is part of the game just as much as everything else. If you don't like it, that's fine, just don't play Melee. You seem butthurt you lost a tourney several years ago to players who used WDing, but I can promise you that was only a small fraction of why you lost. WDing isn't some auto-win technique that immediately upgrades your game as soon as you learn how to perform it with your hands. In fact, most people actually get significantly worse when they first incorporate it into their game because they're spending so much mental focus on doing the WD they are missing tons of more relevant things.

Accept that you are a scrub and try to evolve past one of the most prevalent and elementary perspectives in competitive environments.

I love how you wrote a life story even though I already found the answer to my question and accepted wave dashing.

I also already stated I do not play melee anymore lol. Not in many years...I really wanted to just know why it was accepted which I found the answer.

You really got offended there huh? So funny to see little nerds get so angry over something as small as me simply asking a question about an exploit. I play both cs and street fighter, probably the most competitive games out there, at a high level.

Maybe you should see a therapist and ensure you are mentally stable.

Have fun playing melee all! Its a great game! Sucks the people who play it here are assholes.

Hopefully the people on the smash 4 section of this site are more mature than the melee crowd where I can ask questions about an exploit and not have it turn to a **** show where people don't even read previous comments before posting.

To the few of you that gave good answers, thanks!

 

[Roko Jono]

I love how you wrote a life story even though I already found the answer to my question and accepted wave dashing.

I also already stated I do not play melee anymore lol. Not in many years...I really wanted to just know why it was accepted which I found the answer.

You really got offended there huh? So funny to see little nerds get so angry over something as small as me simply asking a question about an exploit. I play both cs and street fighter, probably the most competitive games out there, at a high level.

Maybe you should see a therapist and ensure you are mentally stable.

Have fun playing melee all! Its a great game! Sucks the people who play it here are *******s.

Hopefully the people on the smash 4 section of this site are more mature than the melee crowd where I can ask questions about an exploit and not have it turn to a **** show where people don't even read previous comments before posting.

To the few of you that gave good answers, thanks!

I don't see anywhere where it seems this user was offended or anything. You started the thread extremely condescending to be honest, although it appears you have learned a bit more about the game which is great and I'm glad for that. The user gave you some pretty legit examples on how doing certain things like banning a technique would be really hard to implement and examples of other "exploits". Long posts are sometimes needed to explain something especially something as complicated as the ethics of this kind of stuff.

 

[standardtoaster]

I think we're done here.