• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Some more videos

MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
Daedatheus

Daedatheus

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 10, 2008
Messages
1,137
Location
Toronto & Kingston, Ontario
The last two videos are private and I can't watch them.

The first one, your Link needs some work. If I had to say one thing off the bat, it's that your Link is too slow, he needs to get fast. Also, vs Pika, use more projectiles to get his damage up and get into combo setups.

Also more situationally, don't use up+b to stop ledgehopping opponents, and don't utilt twice in a row under a platform that your opponent is on unless you want to get owned in between the utilts - you're not kirby after all. :p
 
MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
Ok the videos are viewable

Yea I realize more boomerangs and bombs. Its good to play against guys like pikachu and fox. I'm become somewhat better since that video, but not skillful enough. I do see potential with link as being probably one of thee best characters in the game along with fox and luigi because they require skills, tactics and patience and if you become good with them (mines luigi) then your unstoppable. Kirby and Falcon are characters to use if you wanna just get a game over with under 3 mins lol
 
asianaussie

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
Location
Sayonara Memories
Methinks Yoshi has the most potential...parries, shield counter, djc invinci and djc carry across the stage is mad. I love Link v Falcon and Link v Fox. I have to play super prediction though, which can lead to problems.

If it's possible, can I get my Link critiqued? I find I play sorta similar to Mike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufTBetCSzo0
(vs Fox, ignore the SD, that was an accident)
 
DMoogle

DMoogle

A$
Joined
Jan 28, 2008
Messages
2,366
Location
Northern VA, USA
cheeseball: Your technical skills need a lot of work. Z-canceling, teching/tech-rolling, and DI. Approach less with a dash attack and move with an aerial move. Use Link's u-air for defense a lot more. Don't use boomerang/pull out bomb so close to fast characters like Fox. Couple of specific things:

1:08 you used f-smash which was super sexy. However, I'm not entirely sure it was intentional. Most of the time when my opponent is coming around from over the **** tent I would opt for an u-air.
2:28 you used d-air when you should've used u-air to get a combo going (follow up with f-air, unless another u-air before f-air would've been possible).
2:38 you used a dash attack when up-b definitely would've been preferable.

And please, please update your graphics driver.
 
MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
Benito we will definitely need to do some recordings next time I come up, which should probably be next month or something.

I like to practice my link against fox, but I notice if someones a smart or even decent fox player then all they have to do is shine cancel me off the cliff if not once, twice. Note to self: Fight Fox in the middle of any stage regardless!
 
MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
Daedatheus said:
The last two videos are private and I can't watch them.

The first one, your Link needs some work. If I had to say one thing off the bat, it's that your Link is too slow, he needs to get fast. Also, vs Pika, use more projectiles to get his damage up and get into combo setups.

Also more situationally, don't use up+b to stop ledgehopping opponents, and don't utilt twice in a row under a platform that your opponent is on unless you want to get owned in between the utilts - you're not kirby after all. :p
Click to expand...
I realized links u-tilt is pretty **** powerful, I just gotta get the opponents % high so I can do it continuously. And another problem I shouldve noted is that of all the characters, I always have trouble z-cancelling Links d-air. Does anyone else have this problem too? JUST with him most the time
 
asianaussie

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
Location
Sayonara Memories
DMoogle said:
cheeseball: Your technical skills need a lot of work. Z-canceling, teching/tech-rolling, and DI. Approach less with a dash attack and move with an aerial move. Use Link's u-air for defense a lot more. Don't use boomerang/pull out bomb so close to fast characters like Fox. Couple of specific things:

1:08 you used f-smash which was super sexy. However, I'm not entirely sure it was intentional. Most of the time when my opponent is coming around from over the **** tent I would opt for an u-air.
2:28 you used d-air when you should've used u-air to get a combo going (follow up with f-air, unless another u-air before f-air would've been possible).
2:38 you used a dash attack when up-b definitely would've been preferable.

And please, please update your graphics driver.
Click to expand...
Probably should U-Air more and work on tech-rolling...I tech in place so many times :\

Just got a new graphics card and driver too :3.

Danke.
 
Daedatheus

Daedatheus

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 10, 2008
Messages
1,137
Location
Toronto & Kingston, Ontario
MiketheMike said:
I realized links u-tilt is pretty **** powerful, I just gotta get the opponents % high so I can do it continuously.
Click to expand...
When I mentioned that utilting, I meant that if you utilt twice in a row when Pika/any fast character is close to you and that first utilt DOESN'T connect, there is enough lag BETWEEN those 2 utilts for a Pika to get in and hit you. It has to be timed properly. So for example when you utilted at 1:57, instead of utilting a second time you should have immediately dashed out of the way OR SH uair'd, then made whatever choice from there.

As for the dair-canceling, just practice. Practice non-fastfalled dairs off platforms/ledges in Hyrule, then practice fastfalled ones. The problem with Link is that if he misses one dair z-cancel anywhere near the edge, it might mean a stock lost. :urg:
 
ciaza

ciaza

Smash Prodigy
Premium
Joined
Aug 12, 2009
Messages
2,759
Location
Australia
Funnily enough I find link's dair easy to Z cancel, but I cannot for the life of me get consistent with Marios, especially when doing the dair>uair combo :/
 
asianaussie

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
Location
Sayonara Memories
Sometimes you just can't help it...lag spikes and stuff online, plus Link's D-Air is probably one of the hardest moves to always Z-cancel (bounces screw you over on occasion).

If he hadn't missed the Z-cancel, he could have survived quite easily. If he hadn't jumped into the B-Air and just fallen and teched, you would've had a chance to survive (though techchase grabs probably would've gotten you). Even then, you missed your recovery. So yeah, there were a buncha things that would've helped you survive, but no big deal. I'd love to play American Links, the better Links on our server rarely come on.
 
ciaza

ciaza

Smash Prodigy
Premium
Joined
Aug 12, 2009
Messages
2,759
Location
Australia
cheeseball341 said:
Sometimes you just can't help it...lag spikes and stuff online, plus Link's D-Air is probably one of the hardest moves to always Z-cancel (bounces screw you over on occasion).

If he hadn't missed the Z-cancel, he could have survived quite easily. If he hadn't jumped into the B-Air and just fallen and teched, you would've had a chance to survive (though techchase grabs probably would've gotten you). Even then, you missed your recovery. So yeah, there were a buncha things that would've helped you survive, but no big deal. I'd love to play American Links, the better Links on our server rarely come on.
Click to expand...
Kuro has been on quite a bit recently actually, just ask on MSN, or start talking about smash which seems to put him in the mood, haha. He's link relaly is quite good, I dittod him and really learnt to be a fast link in the match =D
 
(blondekid)

(blondekid)

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Feb 4, 2009
Messages
173
finally some good kids that record videos and dont just spend there life posting their beliefs of smash aka their online smash.
 
MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
couple more videos on the way. not really an improvement but just more uploads with some feedback you all can spare =]
 
asianaussie

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
Location
Sayonara Memories
Well, it is a sequel...if it wasn't like COD4 (which sold better than hotcakes, for lack of a better term), it wouldn't deserve it's name. COD4 was great though, I don't normally play shooters, and I liked it.
 
ciaza

ciaza

Smash Prodigy
Premium
Joined
Aug 12, 2009
Messages
2,759
Location
Australia
cheeseball341 said:
Well, it is a sequel...if it wasn't like COD4 (which sold better than hotcakes, for lack of a better term), it wouldn't deserve it's name. COD4 was great though, I don't normally play shooters, and I liked it.
Click to expand...
Yeh man, Cod4 was truly a masterpiece of a game, played it even more than smash (27 days online I think).
 
Daedatheus

Daedatheus

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 10, 2008
Messages
1,137
Location
Toronto & Kingston, Ontario
SSBPete said:
that wasnt the point. my point is dont miss important z-cancles.
Click to expand...
I wasn't aiming it at you, and I was making my OWN point about it all. I was aiming at MiketheMike's response to THIS:

NixxxoN said:
z-cancel was not the only reason for his death.
Click to expand...
Because NixxxoN was right, and MiketheMike believed that the missed z-cancel was the ONLY reason for his death.
 
W

WOTG

Banned via Warnings
Joined
Feb 16, 2009
Messages
710
Location
Katy, Texas
cheeseball341 said:
Sometimes you just can't help it...lag spikes and stuff online, plus Link's D-Air is probably one of the hardest moves to always Z-cancel (bounces screw you over on occasion).
Click to expand...
Link's dair isn't that hard to z-cancel. His uair is harder, especially fastfall uair.

ciaza said:
Yeh man, Cod4 was truly a masterpiece of a game, played it even more than smash (27 days online I think).
Click to expand...
Cod4 had an incredible Singleplayer. The Multiplayer got boring pretty fast.
After watching a review of MW2, I want it just for the Singeplayer!
 
dch111

dch111

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jun 12, 2009
Messages
472
Link's uair is the only attack I still miss the cancel for from time to time. occasionally DK's uair too. Actually Pika's fastfalled dair surprisingly, too. Gotta keep track of the diff. timings when you switch characters.
 
hamburglar

hamburglar

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Dec 10, 2007
Messages
435
Location
Binghamton, Ny
links fastfall uair cancels gave me trouble for a while. Now i just have difficulty with canceling dair>uair with mario.
 
SSBPete

SSBPete

Smash Lord
Joined
Aug 11, 2009
Messages
1,700
Location
melbourne, australia
hamburglar said:
links fastfall uair cancels gave me trouble for a while. Now i just have difficulty with canceling dair>uair with mario.
Click to expand...
i hate links uair cancle. i find the hardest thing for me to do now is sh dair with samus, seriously, i find it 5 times easier to sh dair - uair with mario
 
DMoogle

DMoogle

A$
Joined
Jan 28, 2008
Messages
2,366
Location
Northern VA, USA
I have a lot of trouble with z-canceling Pika's f-air (only when hitting someone), and u-airs really close to the ground. I can SH d-air fastfall u-air with Luigi now with about 60% consistency, but I only get the cancel about 20% of the time.
 
MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
The ***** thing about z canceling links d-air is that when i DO z cancel I end up using his hook shot. So as you can see it's got two downfalls on how you do it. same with samus and yoshi, but they're not as bad as links IMO
 
asianaussie

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
Location
Sayonara Memories
Do you Z cancel with R or something? The gayest ones to cancel for me are Kirby's drills. At least I always end up with a techchase though, which is good and bad.

Also, who buys COD4 for the singleplayer...?
 
MiketheMike

MiketheMike

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
211
cheeseball341 said:
Do you Z cancel with R or something? The gayest ones to cancel for me are Kirby's drills. At least I always end up with a techchase though, which is good and bad.

Also, who buys COD4 for the singleplayer...?
Click to expand...
No, with the z. But the reason I use hookshot is because with other characters after I, lets say, down drill I grab right after z canceling. its a bad habit
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom