internetmovieguy
Smash Apprentice
Now everyone will know Falco's pain!
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So there's going to be recovery nerfs
- Thread starter internetmovieguy
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Lizalfos
Smash Master
Yes. Jiggs will also become the hard counter to tethers.
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Thor
Smash Champion
Or they'll just be like "**** you Falco" and remove his up+B entirely... just kidding.
Actually, I had been opening they weakened tethers a bit, but then buffed some of the weaker recoveries (Falco, Roy [arguably Sheik, Captain Falcon, and Ganondorf]), but this direction is cool too, at least if they do it well.
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GeZ
Smash Lord
I don't think recoveries need improvement. That's kind of what got us in the problem we're in now. All of those characters have fine recoveries if you factor in what they do.
Thor
Smash Champion
Nah, Falco's is trash. Captain Falcon is still pretty easily gimped. The others are okayish, but they're still gonna be absolutely wrecked offstage by a Pit with any time to set up (or a plethora of other characters).
And for the record, I only think tethers were midly problematic - everyone's up+B was either fine or weak (Diddy Kong and Mewtwo excepted of course [and maybe Pit/Mario, but one is rather linear and also would just be a Puff-like character if he lacked arrows, and the other still dies to well-spaced bairs below the stage level]). I also think having a few stronger recoveries (MK (ish), Puff, Kirby, Samus) adds some nice variety to the game, because then you can't approach all recoveries as "Just bair their linear predictable path/dsmash or dair their attempt to sweetspot and you're good."
Solo ICs could also use a small buff to recovery in my opinion - just a bit more height on solo Belay would be enough.
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internetmovieguy
Smash Apprentice
Nana should be able to call Popo with belay.
Just imagining all the chaos that could cause makes me very happy. Incase you can't tell i dislike ice climbers, Not in this game but the hate from all those chain grabs is still in my heart.
Nontoxic
Smash Cadet
If everyone else's recovery is bad then Falco's is less ****ty by comparison 
Lizalfos
Smash Master
If Falco's recovery is buffed I'm quitting this game.
GeZ
Smash Lord
RIP Lizalfos. 2014-2014 you will be missed.
Lizalfos
Smash Master
Pls just don't touch Flaco. He isn't super op. He isn't bad at all.
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Isn't Falco's recovery worse in PM because fire bird doesn't carry momentum the same way it does in melee? Reverting that is the only change I can see happening, and I'm pretty sure I heard they were finally able to fix this problem with Fox's fire fox... So I'm assuming the same goes for fire bird.
Lizalfos
Smash Master
As long as it makes my Falco skills more applicable to Melee I'm fine
robosteven
Smash Lord
It stuck with the Brawl up-b, which I'm pretty sure is slightly shorter than Melee.
It might just be momentum though, which I really hope they bring back to Melee state either way.
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falco's UpB in brawl was pretty far in my opinion, or atleast that's what my memory told me.
Lizalfos
Smash Master
Is there a Gif showing the recovery difference in P:M vs Melee?
Jackson
Smash Lord
Correct, the Brawl version goes farther. Honestly, Project M Falco's recovery needs a buff if anything.
internetmovieguy
Smash Apprentice
Nah, Just give him pit's up air and he's all good.