So some site decided to launch their own Project M list list section yestaday..

[Da Man]

http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/projectm/

Wouldn't take it with a grain of salt really especially since Fox ain't the top guy believe it or not. Just showing its there since I tend to go on that site a lot myself and it is a major one for all big fighting games.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/projectm/

Wouldn't take it with a grain of salt really especially since Fox ain't the top guy believe it or not. Just showing its there since I tend to go on that site a lot myself and it is a major one for all big fighting games.

Fox is not the best in this game, it's m2 and their list is flawed. After fox, that list became fraudulent.

 

[InfinityCollision]

lol eventscrubs

 

[Strong Badam]

Their lists are made by popular vote, of course it won't be accurate on the first day. Their tier lists are generally reasonably accurate given enough votes and data, though. Check out their Melee list: http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssbm/
When it launched it had Ganondorf in top tier among other silly things. That's to be expected

 

[muleet]

This list is still young, and not supposed to be debated with arguments, it is based on votes. (Although you can post messages on each matchup pages.) If anyone can vote for his opinion, then no one is really responsible for the result. You should therefore subscribe on it and vote.
It is just a tool after all.

 

[A6stringthing (A6ST)]

Glad this list can change. There is no way Bowser is that low.

 

[Raijinken]

That's shockingly similar to my personal list.

 

[Deleted member]

this is hilariously better than the CT list.

/50 likes

 

[IFC Jigglypuff]

reading it at the moment, mewtwo best character in the game ? can't stop laughing. xD

 

[thatoneguy1]

this list is still young so it will probably change to what people can generally agree upon within a month.

 

[InfinityCollision]

reading it at the moment, mewtwo best character in the game ? can't stop laughing. xD

You do realize that's one thing the list actually gets right so far?

 

[Frost | Odds]

Glad this list can change. There is no way Bowser is that low.

Wrong. That and Mewtwo are probably the 2 most accurate placements on this list.

 

[InfinityCollision]

Apparently at least one person out there thinks Wolf v Yoshi is literally unwinnable for Wolf. I wonder how many more of these I can find?

 

[A6stringthing (A6ST)]

Wrong. That and Mewtwo are probably the 2 most accurate placements on this list.

I agree with Mewtwo's placement, Bowser, not so much. I just don't find him all that terrible, but I also agree with Wario's placement.

 

[Exodo]

for me top 3 are:
1. Lucas
2. Mewtwo
3.Link

 

[Frost | Odds]

I agree with Mewtwo's placement, Bowser, not so much.

He's got losing (and in some cases, unwinnable) matchups pretty much across the board. Bowser loses to Jiggs (due to the ludicrous ease of resting him), Olimar (for the same reason that Bowser loses to other characters with long grabs and huge disjoint), ICs (their combos on him are absolutely insane, plus his command grab and dash grab are totally nullified, and their projectile appears to have been designed specifically to screw bowser), and to Ganondorf (whose aerials are totally safe on Bowser's shield, and has a command grab that stuffs most of Bowser's options while leading to insane kill combos).

CF, Ivysaur, ZSS, Link, and Mewtwo are effectively guaranteed losses for Bowser.

In short, Bowser loses to all the other consensus "terrible" or "bottom 5" characters, and it hardly gets better as you move up the tier list. He does have a couple even or positive MUs (such as Falco), but you could probably count them on one hand.

Someone has to finish last. What makes you so incredulous that it might be bowser? Who could be worse?

 

[MLGF]

HEY!

http://smashboards.com/threads/tier-list-speculation.331666/

Put that stuff in here.

As for the fact Eventhubs did this...
Well, it kinda hints that other FGC's are accepting not just Melee but also PM to be viable fighters.
Granted, the FGC has groups that hate anything but Marvel/SF... but HEY PROGRESS!

Maybe one day all the parts of the Fighting Game community will be able to hold hands and spread peace across the world...
Good ****ing luck

 

[hotdogturtle]

The only reason that Bowser managed to get above ICs is because literally no one uses ICs in this game.

 

[Da Man]

Like I said guys, don't take anything with a grain of salt till the PM backroom releases a official tier list IF there ever is one. Just figured I'd share EH's one to see what you guys think.

HEY!

http://smashboards.com/threads/tier-list-speculation.331666/

Put that stuff in here.

As for the fact Eventhubs did this...
Well, it kinda hints that other FGC's are accepting not just Melee but also PM to be viable fighters.
Granted, the FGC has groups that hate anything but Marvel/SF... but HEY PROGRESS!

Maybe one day all the parts of the Fighting Game community will be able to hold hands and spread peace across the world...
Good ****ing luck

Yeah sorry, forgot about that thread and didn't noticed it. Besides think this deserves its own mention in a seperate topic anyway.

 

[MLGF]

No, not you. But the people debating tiers here is repetitive, this itself is well worth the topic IMO.

 

[Vashimus]

Like I said guys, don't take anything with a grain of salt till the PM backroom releases a official tier list IF there ever is one.

It's not the PMDT's job to make an official tier list. They just develop the game and that's it.

 

[IronChar]

teir listing PM is stupid and a waste of time- the characters are so well damn balance that a type of player with a type of character can shoot their way to the top in a stupid short amount of time.

Armada + Pit is a fine recent example

 

[Xenozoa425]

Yeah, that's not a good list at all. Wolf at 18? Roy at 23? Pit above Fox/Falco? Psssh nah.

 

[Ganreizu]

teir listing PM is stupid and a waste of time- the characters are so well damn balance that a type of player with a type of character can shoot their way to the top in a stupid short amount of time.

Armada + Pit is a fine recent example

Honestly there aren't that many arguments you can't get away with if you're using one of the top smashers in the world as an example.

 

[menotyou135]

If you disagree with the list then vote in it and discuss individual matchups.