so i have a question

[dropping_a_neon]

what is the point to pivot grabbing and or pivot walking?

 

[zeldspazz]

It gives more grab range.

 

[Snail]

Allows you to avoid attacks and counter immediately with a grab?

 

[:mad:]

What they said. Your grab range increases, it tends to be faster, and you're retreating.

It really helps characters like Lucas and Yoshi, who otherwise have laggy grabs if missed.

 

[dropping_a_neon]

i use lucas but i mean they can kind of see the grabs coming if your running away and they r chasing u they r going to expect u to attack them so they dodge and punish u

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

Your opponent spotdodges, you can punish by running through him during the dodge and pivot grabbing. It looks cool, screws with them, and you get a grab.

 

[Crow!]

For most characters, pivot grab is way better than normal grab. Yoshi, for instance, has way less lag in his pivot grab, while most non-tethered grabbers get extra range.

Pivot walking is much more character specific. A few characters (including Link) can use the pivot animation to provide a slide as they perform another action, say Dsmash for Ftilt.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Pivot grabbing increases range, and speed of many grabs. For some characters, like Yoshi, pivot grabbing is essential in their gameplay.

 

[Bellioes]

But is there a way to pivot grab without getting that huge slide out of a run ie. as Marth or Diddy?
If asked this in several places but none of the answers I got seemed to be working for me

 

[dropping_a_neon]

usually if i see someone run at me i roll dodge not spot dodge or just bash them im he face XD

 

[dropping_a_neon]

i mean if i see someone running at me then im gonna roll dodge or jump

 

[.Marik]

Play Yoshi or Samus, you'll find out why.

What Straked and others already said.

 

[dropping_a_neon]

my brother is really good with samus and when he trys to pivot grab i literally rolldodge behind him and punish

 

[CRASHiC]

That's because Samus has a ****ty grab.

If he likes to spam pivot grabs, shield grabs, dash grabs, or even just standing grabs, he should play D3.

 

[SuSa]

This video partially explains why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWll66BNE9o

Also think of a pivot grab as a "retreating just in case" grab.

Pivot Walking has limited uses, but is actually faster then quite a few characters walks. (Or I'm so messed up I couldn't tell the difference)

 

[Mota]

Good for messing with your opponent and catching them off-guard if they're chasing you or something.

Longer range.

 

[dropping_a_neon]

i have literally NEVER been pivot grabbed and i play competitively all the time. people try it, but its so obvious

 

[:mad:]

i have literally NEVER been pivot grabbed and i play competitively all the time. people try it, but its so obvious

This is probably a lie. If you've ever fought someone decent, they probably pivot grab.

 

[uhmuzing]

I pivot grab too much. Its fun to mess with your opponent like that, and its a very useful technique to master with Marth.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

i have literally NEVER been pivot grabbed and i play competitively all the time. people try it, but its so obvious

Then you haven't played an Olimar.

 

[:mad:]

That's because Samus has a ****ty grab.

If he likes to spam pivot grabs, shield grabs, dash grabs, or even just standing grabs, he should play D3.

Everyone that likes to grab should play Dedede.

 

[dropping_a_neon]

well i do play people that r really good all the time. but i use sonic and when i expect a grab i usually run a little bit then fsmash them