Snake double help!

[jays0nnn]

Ok I'm a marth player, and I went to the marth board for help about doubles, but found nothing about snake in doubles so My partner is a snake player, so is there any pros and cons about this? can anyone point out some tips about this cuz most of the time, i play with ike in doubles. Thanks everyone

 

[xmisosoupx]

i would kinda u kno... try to avoid having snake as a doubles partner... becuz snake has a lot of explosives... so if u are not aware of his mines/grenades.... you will prolly hav a hard time winning

 

[jetfour]

Develop a code language that only you and your partner understand so he can tell you where he put the C4. Have a key word for 'edge', 'left'. 'platform', etc. Usually, only the person fighting Snake pays attention so you can bait the other one into it.

Pay attention to your teammate since all you have to do is nip him and he'll get another upB to recover with.

You should build the damage so Snake can use fresh attacks for the kill.

Learn the timing for grenades. Start counting as soon as he pulls it out.

 

[bman in 2288]

Develop a code language that only you and your partner understand so he can tell you where he put the C4. Have a key word for 'edge', 'left'. 'platform', etc. Usually, only the person fighting Snake pays attention so you can bait the other one into it.

Pay attention to your teammate since all you have to do is nip him and he'll get another upB to recover with.

You should build the damage so Snake can use fresh attacks for the kill.

Learn the timing for grenades. Start counting as soon as he pulls it out.

^This.

Snake is a powerful character, but Marth could possibly be better at spacing and racking up damage. So while you're out there putting the hurt on someone, Snake should be planting mines and whatnot. pay attention to your partner and let him kill the other guys. Just be sure not to get caught in his hitboxes.

 

[jays0nnn]

ok thanks alot, but say that snake doesn't blow the C4, how will it take for the C4 to blow itself up? is it possible use snake Dair with marth shield breaker (marth's neutral B) to break shields? sorry for asking alot and once again thanks for the help

 

[Sergetrigger]

ok thanks alot, but say that snake doesn't blow the C4, how will it take for the C4 to blow itself up? is it possible use snake Dair with marth shield breaker (marth's neutral B) to break shields? sorry for asking alot and once again thanks for the help

I would say around... 25 seconds or so for a c4 to explode on it's own. Same goes for his mine except it just disappears. As for the shieldbreaker/dair combo, it might be tricky since his Dair sometime sucks the opponent up... But you should be able to pull it off with some practice.

 

[OlimarFan]

Develop a code language that only you and your partner understand so he can tell you where he put the C4. Have a key word for 'edge', 'left'. 'platform', etc. Usually, only the person fighting Snake pays attention so you can bait the other one into it.

Pay attention to your teammate since all you have to do is nip him and he'll get another upB to recover with.

You should build the damage so Snake can use fresh attacks for the kill.

Learn the timing for grenades. Start counting as soon as he pulls it out.

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Dude! Your avatar is Chopin! Sorry. I just love Classical Music.

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True. But if you are to develop a code language, this would take incredible partnership.
Another note: Make sure your partner protects when you recover.

P.S. Grenades=4 seconds.

 

[jays0nnn]

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Dude! Your avatar is Chopin! Sorry. I just love Classical Music.

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True. But if you are to develop a code language, this would take incredible partnership.
Another note: Make sure your partner protects when you recover.

P.S. Grenades=4 seconds.

Ohh thanks for tips...snake's Dair sucks you in? I didn't know you that. A code language? hmmm I might ask my friend to try this sometimes later, how about snake ftilt with marth dancing sword or shield breaker? i remember i try to shield break someone and my friend just ftilt and that Ftilt for snake have a huge hitbox =___= so i need to work on that so thanks alot

 

[bman in 2288]

dair does not suck you in. It does not have a wide hitbox like nair does, so it's harder to land all the hits. If you DI correctly, though, you should get all kicks in, and it's probably more powerful than nair, knockback wise.

Also, shield breaker to ftilt could possibly ****, if shielded. If SB is powershielded, though, then dair him.

 

[jetfour]

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Dude! Your avatar is Chopin! Sorry. I just love Classical Music.

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You're actually the only person to point that out (or probably even notice haha)
*High five*

Anyways, having a strategy that revolves around breaking someone's shield is a waste of time. It's similar to a strategy of helping Ness recover health or filling GW's bucket. Smart teams can easily exploit it. A broken shield is really not that high of a reward. One free hit. If you're using two people to focus on breaking one person's shield, the other person will be there to save them once the shield is broken. If it's two against one, a simple grab is much more efficient. In all the time it takes you to maybe break someone's shield, Snake can just ftilt to rake up damage sooo easily.

Common sense -- you just have to play smarter than the opponent.

You, as Marth, are a much better edgeguarder and aerial fighter. You should be the aggressive one while Snake has your back. Sword dance is also a great team move. It soaks up time. Go for the downb as the final hit of sword dance so that Snake has time to react and come hit them out of it.

Make sure Snake keeps his main kill moves fresh. Even against smart opponents, in doubles it is much easier for Snake to get kills with utilt and the C4.

Practice a lot with each other, even against computers if you have to. Experience forges good communication and teamwork. When you two are working in unison, you will dominate the air while Snake controls the ground. Go for the gimps when you can. Snake will get the easy K.O.'s.

A simple code language really isn't hard to develop. If you're not smart enough to develop one, then you're not smart enough to win

Another thing I forgot to mention earlier: when your partner Snake is cyphering, jump on it. It won't footstool them down, but it still technically counts as a footstool. So basically, it doesn't affected them in anyway except for giving them another cypher. Not that practical, but helpful to know.

 

[jays0nnn]

if my partner gets grabbed while he's using up b, if i hit him will he be able to use his up b? cuz i'm also playing another marth and snake team =___=

 

[bman in 2288]

Yes. As long as the Snake takes damage, or anyone for that manner, they'll get their up-b back after a grab release.

 

[Taste]

An interesting strategy: Let Snake C4 you. You can then transfer it to an opponent just by touching them, and if Snake is paying attention, he can detonate it in the air, blowing them to kingdom come.

 

[bman in 2288]

Yeah, people have been doing that since the game was released.

Also, Snake vs Zombie is awesome.