SmashCAP 1: Movepool Discussion

[Terywj [태리]]

SmashCAP 1
Concept: Bulky-Offense Counter
Name: Calderan
Type: Water/ Ground
Ability: Levitate / Unaware
Base stats: 85 / 80 / 140 / 80 / 65 / 90 (BST: 540)

Allowed offensive moves: Aqua Tail, Brine, Hydro Pump, Surf, Waterfall, Earthquake, Earth Power, Crunch, Pursuit, Aqua Jet, Ice Beam, Ice Fang, Dive, Rock Slide, Dragon Pulse, Blizzard, Ancientpower, Outrage, Double-Edge, Skull Bash, Stone Edge, Iron Head

Allowed non-offensive moves: Aqua Ring, Rain Dance, Sandstorm, Stealth Rock, Protect, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Taunt, Roar, Curse, Scary Face, Dragon Dance, Stockpile

So here were are, one of the last (if not the last) stage in SmashCAP 1. This thread involves the creation / discussion of the movepool of SmashCAP 1.

When you are finished with your movepool, post it as a final submission so I can review it to make sure it's not just random blob. This way the movepool poll will be easier.

Here is a thread to discuss any non-competitive moves you can add to your SmashCAP 1 movepool: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9361924#post9361924

Here is a guide on how to build a Pokemon's movepool. http://www.smogon.com/cap/articles/movepool_guide

Remember folks! All global forum rules apply!

Happy brainstorming!

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

I like how you finally got it right and called it a movepool rather than a moveset.

You've made that mistake so many times, so just sayin'

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Should we start on the tutor moves or the egg moves first?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I like how you finally got it right and called it a movepool rather than a moveset.

You've made that mistake so many times, so just sayin'

I get it. Jesus.

Should we start on the tutor moves or the egg moves first?

It's your opinion really.

I started with the level-up moves.

-Terywj

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Well...since nobody has posted anything I guess I'll step up.

SmashCAP 1 Movepool (Tery's Drafts) (Important moves are in italics)

Level-Up Moves:
Heart Scale -- Ice Fang
Heart Scale -- Aqua Jet
1 - Splash
1 - Water Gun
1 - Leer
1 - Headbutt
7 - Bind
12 - Scary Face
28 - Bite
33 - Roar
39 - Whirlpool
44 - Stockpile
50 - Earthquake
56 - Dragon Dance
62 - Hydro Pump

TM/HM List:
•TM03 - Water Pulse
•TM05 - Roar
•TM06 - Toxic
•TM07 - Hail
•TM10 - Hidden Power
•TM13 - Ice Beam
•TM14 - Blizzard
•TM15 - Hyper Beam
•TM17 - Protect
•TM18 - Rain Dance
•TM21 - Frustration
•TM23 - Iron Tail
•TM26 - Earthquake
•TM27 - Return
•TM28 - Dig
•TM32 - Double Team
•TM37 - Sandstorm
•TM39 - Rock Tomb
•TM41 - Torment
•TM42 - Facade
•TM43 - Secret Power
•TM44 - Rest
•TM45 - Attract
•TM55 - Brine
•TM56 - Fling
•TM58 - Endure
•TM59 - Dragon Pulse
•TM63 - Embargo
•TM68 - Giga Impact
•TM71 - Stone Edge
•TM76 - Stealth Rock
•TM78 - Captivate
•TM79 - Dark Pulse
•TM80 - Rock Slide
•TM81 - X-scissor
•TM82 - Sleep Talk
•TM83 - Natural Gift
•TM87 - Swagger
•TM90 - Substitute
•HM03 - Surf
•HM04 - Strength
•HM06 - Rock Smash
•HM07 - Waterfall

Egg group: Water 1 / Dragon

Egg moves:
Dragonbreath (Altaria, Bagon line)
Confuse Ray (Lapras, Mantine, Psyduck line, Kabuto line, Corsola, Feebas line, Corsola line)
Mist (Squirtle line, Poliwag line, Piplup line, Wooper line, Lapras, Lotad line, Swablu line, Wingull line, Dratini line, Corsola, Feebas line)
Aqua Jet (Buizel line, Seel line, Kabuto line, Empoleon, Golduck, Squirtle line, Totodile line, Marill line)
Aurora Beam (Seel line, Kabuto line)
Dragon Rage (Dratini line, Charmander line, Gible line, Horsea line, Bagon line)
Curse (Slowpoke line, Bidoof line)
Aqua Ring (Seel line, Marill line, Corsola, Mantine, Milotic)

Comments and all help appreciated.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Oh, just so you know, you put Zen Headbutt as allowed in the OP, it was voted Unallowed.



I overall agree with your Tery, but you've got lots of holes, and places where things are rather unrealistic in comparison to the game, as well as the fact that you're not covering every single allowed move.

Calderan's Movepool (Ulti's Draft) (Important moves)

Level-Up Moves:
01 - Ice Fang (Heart Scale)
01 - Splash
01 - Water Gun
01 - Leer
01 - Bind
09 - Scary Face
12 - Water Sport
12 - Mud Sport
14 - Magnitude
19 - Bite
23 - Water Pulse
27 - Roar
34 - Stockpile
34 - Swallow
37 - Double-Edge
43 - Earthquake
47 - Spit Up
52 - Crunch
58 - Dragon Dance
64 - Hydro Pump

TM/HM List:
TM03 - Water Pulse
TM05 - Roar
TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM12 - Taunt
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM23 - Iron Tail
TM26 - Earthquake
TM27 - Return
TM28 - Dig
TM32 - Double Team
TM36 - Sludge Bomb
TM37 - Sandstorm
TM39 - Rock Tomb
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Secret Power
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM55 - Brine
TM58 - Endure
TM59 - Dragon Pulse
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM71 - Stone Edge
TM76 - Stealth Rock
TM78 - Captivate
TM80 - Rock Slide
TM82 - Sleep Talk
TM83 - Natural Gift
TM87 - Swagger
TM90 - Substitute
HM03 - Surf
HM04 - Strength
HGSS HM05- Whirlpool
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM07 - Waterfall

Egg group: Water 1 / Dragon

Egg moves:
Dragonbreath (Swablu/Bagon line)
Mist (Squirtle/Poliwag/Piplup/Wooper/Lotad/Swablu/Wingull/Dratini/Feebas Lines, Corsola, Lapras)
Aqua Jet (Buizel/Seel/Kabuto/Squirtle/Totodile/Marill line, Empoleon, Golduck)
Curse (Slowpoke/Bidoof line)
Aqua Ring (Seel/Marill line, Corsola, Mantine, Milotic)
Skull Bash (Squirtle Family, Relicanth)
Pursuit (Buizel line, Wingull)


Move Tutor
Dive
Last Resort
Snore
Uproar
Ancientpower
Aqua Tail
Earth Power
Iron Head
Outrage
Mud Slap
Headbutt



Unless I missed something somehow, this includes every allowed move, avoids every disallowed move, and then gives/takes away moves based on how moves are learned in the games.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah I did forget a couple of the attacking moves, but as you've stated those would fall under the move tutor area.

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

I think Water Pulse should either be removed from level-up moves or move down to level 20-ish.

 

[UltiMario]

I modified mine a little.

Does that look better?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Hm since it's only me and UltiMario I may just make the deadline tomorrow..

UltiMario you okay with that?

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Make it so they're due by 11:59 PM Tommorow.

Just to get the most out of the day.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That's ridiculous.

Movepool deadline: 8:50 PM Eastern time.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Rediculous?

You're rediculous!

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Rediculous?

8:50 PM is not ridiculous.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

4 future ppl 2 kno Ter-ee-widge needz to b abl to get joeks bettr so don tel ihm subtl wunz, srsly.

Spoiler

Yep, I totally just did that.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Sorry, jokes like those cease to exist in my databas-er...mind.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Don't you mean DON't exist in your database?

Also, all your database are belong to me.


This goes to show how action-packed, discussive, and intelligent SmashCAP discussions are.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Also, all your database are? belong to me.

Also, we're almost done with the first one. Everyone was just too slow since it was the first time.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

It looks almost as if you don't know "all your base are belong to us"


This is the new Pokemon social thread.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

No, it's not.

BTW we don't even NEED a deadline if your movepool is finished. So when it is just let me know.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

I don't even think there IS anything else I could possibly do to improve my movepool.

So I guess that counts as finished.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Alright haha. I'll wrap up the ones I'm missing and then I'll PM both to Spire for the poll.

I think you'll win though. I'm no good with movepools.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Look, if theres any ONE thing I'm good at doing in Fakemon, its movepools, and I've always known that.

Not gloating or anything, but this is the first time I actually feel confident with a SmashCAP submission.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Your typing submission was good too! :O

But yeah sent the stuff to Spire. Hopefully the poll will be up soon.

I'm probably end up voting for yours, hahaha..

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Hey Ter-ee-widge.

We were both so much in a rush that BOTH of us forgot about Crunch, Double-Edge, and Pursuit.

****

I went and fixed mine, but muk, we really shouldn't have rushed. This is what happens when you rush.