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But with Marth you automatically know what size he's going to be.
And? It takes like a second to figure out out a Mii will perform. Anyone who can't determine that has no business playing fighting games.
Its not exactly as easy as that. Messing with size, and in tandem weight/Hurt Box size/reach can make some moves more or ineffective against said Mii.
Like I said, all of that can be determined at the start of a match. All there is to pay attention to is height, width, and moveset type. The move customization applies to every character.
And as I've said, it won't be as easy as that.
Why not? What property won't be visible?
Weight is a big one. If the units of size aren't in categories(Large, Medium, Small, etc.) then it becomes harder t discern a Mii's weight. And it becomes a guessing game of when you should start going for kill moves at higher percents.
Weight is visible. It's pretty likely that there'll be size categories though.
So you're telling me that in the event that there aren't categories, you can see a Mii and go, "Yeah, that one's X heavy."
Are you saying you can't? This kind of thing is normal in life. After you play around with different sizes and shapes, it'll become easy.
I can on characters who have predetermined weights that don't fluctuate randomly.
Weight won't make it any easier for a player to hit you anyway, so really you only have to pay attention to their height.
Quite. After years of fighting the same characters over and over again, you can develop a sense of weight for them. Depending on how height affects a Mii's weight and by what margin, that becomes more difficult.
Miis are Nintendo characters, so you're good to go.
the game is changing. While in melee it was about knowledge, it is now about adaptability, do you expect sakurai to go to the trouble of removing a feature just because a few people dislike it?
jokes are like farts: if you have to force it, it's probably poop
Ironically, the one thing the Smash community has never and can never do is adapt. Project M is proof; they'll literally change the game before they change themselves.
and that's why I dislike the smash community, they never accept a new game for what it is. Perhaps we should start a community specifically for smash 4
Project M sucks. It's not that there needs to be a Melee 2.0 (or 0.2 like PM), it's just that there needs to be a Smash game thats competitive and casual friendly. At least that's what I think. It's why I like Smash Flash 2. It's not trying to be exactly like Melee, nor is it trying to be like Brawl. From what I've played, Smash 4 leans closer to Brawl, but I see it having a competitive future. It probably won't be as big as Melee is though.
Why are people against customization in tournaments? I mean, from what I've seen, it's balanced out so. For example, Mario's Large Fireball is slow.
weather or not it should be tourney legal should be put to a vote for fairness sake (altho I agree with you that they seem balanced), and even if it's turned down it will probably become a side event. All in all, I think it's rather dumb to be radical about it before the game is even out
Balancing (especially in a game like smash) is more than just "weak attack is fast, strong attack is slow." There are more variables you have to consider.
but we shouldn't be ban-happy before the game is even out, we should at least give it a couple months of testing before we decide
I completely agree, I'm just pointing out that more goes into balancing than how slow the move goes in relation to it's power, especially in a game like this where there are 20+ different attacks connected to a character that already has his own speed and defensive stats, along with jump height and hurtboxes, and even more so when 5 of those moves have 4 different interchangeable moves that each work drastically differently.
Well that is true, but you have yet to give me any evidence that you DO.
You haven't given any either though.
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And then it will be patched..
I have no idea what is confusing to you mate
I'm sorry, I don't think you understand. Nintendo isn't like Capcom or other companies who actually care about how their competitive games work. If that was the case, Meta-Knight woulda got nerfed in Brawl. Guess what? They didn't release a patch and he's still light years better than everyone else in the game over 6 years later.
There is no way sizes won't be in categories. Making sizes "fluid" on top of all the costumes, movesets, and other such stuff that would be loaded, it would be much easier for a development team to simply condense sizes into a few categories.
That's why I really hope that's the case. It wouldn't be a problem otherwise.
