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Smash 64 2.0

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Metak

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For all of you Brawl+ endorsers out there, there's a new project coming to town!!! It' 64 2.0 and it's gonna kick B+'s but hard!

Questions and FAQ

1.What is 64 2.0? 64 2.0 is the melee fan's answer to B+. I'm going to collect people and hackers to hack into brawl and turn it into a complete version of melee.

2. What is the goal of this project? To make Smash 64 for the wii!!

3. How do I get it? You need a modded wii, which you an get by twilight hacking your wii. Further instructions at wiibrew.com

4. Why not just play Smash 64 or melee or B+? Because Smash 64 is better than all of those, but because it's on the 64 it's not popular. Were gonna change that.

Any other questions that do not have to do with technical stuff just PM me.

If they do have to do with technical stuff go to wiibrew.com


Hacker List:
None Yet!!!


So, does anyone wanna help me remake Smash 64 for the wii, or not!?!
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I just posted this in the smash workshop :p. I hope Isai endorses this and it gets stickied!!
 

Skrlx

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For all of you Brawl+ endorsers out there, there's a new project coming to town!!! It' 64 2.0 and it's gonna kick B+'s but hard!

Questions and FAQ

1.What is 64 2.0? 64 2.0 is the melee fan's answer to B+. I'm going to collect people and hackers to hack into brawl and turn it into a complete version of melee.

2. What is the goal of this project? To make Smash 64 for the wii!!

3. How do I get it? You need a modded wii, which you an get by twilight hacking your wii. Further instructions at wiibrew.com

4. Why not just play Smash 64 or melee or B+? Because Smash 64 is better than all of those, but because it's on the 64 it's not popular. Were gonna change that.

Any other questions that do not have to do with technical stuff just PM me.

If they do have to do with technical stuff go to wiibrew.com


Hacker List:
None Yet!!!


So, does anyone wanna help me remake Smash 64 for the wii, or not!?!
Metak is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message

I just posted this in the smash workshop :p. I hope Isai endorses this and it gets stickied!!
congrats on making it to my ignore list
 

Blue Yoshi

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I was going to write a long response to this, longer than your initial post, but decided to condense it to one word:

FAIL!






Edit: decided to post reasons.

1. 64 smash is already hackable for the wii, so that's already done.

2. This is the 64 boards. Your post is trying to recruit people for turning brawl into melee, which has nothing to do with 64. In other words, you put this in the wrong room. If we do care about melee and brawl, we will see it in the melee or brawl section.

3. smash 64 was meant for the 64 console. We are not going to play it on the wii just because it's available there. Online, we can play by emulator, and p2p is much better than any type of wii online method.

Summary:

You're advertising something in the wrong boards, disguising it with some useless information about 64 that we already know about and don't care about. 90% of us don't care about brawl or brawl+, so yeah. Your entire post is fail.

You'll be lucky to get any positive response in my opinion.
 

rehab

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Look at #4 again. He mentioned Brawl+ and Melee briefly, but then said "64>>>"

If you ever did make it, my personal hopes would be that you made grabs something in the realm of punishable, and made blockstun less obnoxious. I'd also say make some massive combos slightly more difficult to execute, but... I'm pretty certain I would be alone wanting that lol
 

Gindler

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So......I played smash 64 on the wii weeks ago....................I have NO idea what you're plan is if it's already there, that'd be like me going out and inventing pants
 

Blue Yoshi

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Ok, I read your smash workshop thread (got bored), and saw your mistake. This changes the thread completely. Basically, you're changing brawl into 64. I would recommend you edit your first post (melee into 64), since that is what made me consider this thread in the wrong place.

My opinion/advice:

Smash 64, compared to brawl, is heavy on hit-stun. Only problem with that is that if brawl had that much hit-stun, one hit, no matter who it was from, would instantly cause death. There are many infinites already in brawl, and increasing the hit-stun would not only make these ten times easier to perform, but you would basically end up turning brawl into an infinite-fest game.

Powershielding, air-dodging, and side-stepping would all have to be removed. DI would have to change completely, and much more. Depending on how much you want to make this similar to 64, drills would have to change as well.

If you were to try to change brawl into 64 and make it actually work competitively (first hit doesn't always end up with kill), you would have to change the game completely.



That said, in my opinion, brawl should be left the way it is. Sure not everyone likes it, but that doesn't mean that it has to be changed. If there are people playing 64 instead of melee, does that mean we have to change melee so that it is 64, or vice versa? I honestly think hacking brawl isn't a good idea, but in the end, that doesn't prevent you from doing so. Brawl is a success competitively, so that means it must be good enough. We can all hate it as much as we want, but that doesn't mean they can't play it.

Well, if you are going through with this, good luck, and hopefully it will be worth the effort. Just think of what you are getting yourself into before you start this, or you may find out later that it was all for nothing.

No matter how much you change brawl, it will never be 64.

Hope this helps.
 

Metak

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Ok, I read your smash workshop thread (got bored), and saw your mistake. This changes the thread completely. Basically, you're changing brawl into 64. I would recommend you edit your first post (melee into 64), since that is what made me consider this thread in the wrong place.

My opinion/advice:

Smash 64, compared to brawl, is heavy on hit-stun. Only problem with that is that if brawl had that much hit-stun, one hit, no matter who it was from, would instantly cause death. There are many infinites already in brawl, and increasing the hit-stun would not only make these ten times easier to perform, but you would basically end up turning brawl into an infinite-fest game.

Powershielding, air-dodging, and side-stepping would all have to be removed. DI would have to change completely, and much more. Depending on how much you want to make this similar to 64, drills would have to change as well.

If you were to try to change brawl into 64 and make it actually work competitively (first hit doesn't always end up with kill), you would have to change the game completely.



That said, in my opinion, brawl should be left the way it is. Sure not everyone likes it, but that doesn't mean that it has to be changed. If there are people playing 64 instead of melee, does that mean we have to change melee so that it is 64, or vice versa? I honestly think hacking brawl isn't a good idea, but in the end, that doesn't prevent you from doing so. Brawl is a success competitively, so that means it must be good enough. We can all hate it as much as we want, but that doesn't mean they can't play it.

Well, if you are going through with this, good luck, and hopefully it will be worth the effort. Just think of what you are getting yourself into before you start this, or you may find out later that it was all for nothing.

No matter how much you change brawl, it will never be 64.

Hope this helps.
It does, thanks for getting bored. lulz.

But i don't think i'm going to change it in the op, just everybody if they think the same thing read blue yoshi's post.
 

Blue Yoshi

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Being one of the few that even plays any brawl, I don't think you should expect many good reviews over this. If people don't play brawl, they already decided it failed, and that even hacking it won't fix it, while those who play brawl think you're ruining the game. So basically, you have to prove everyone wrong and make a perfect game... which would mean completely changing the game.

I would change the OP if I were you, because my post will be lost very soon, and everyone will be confused fast. All it is is changing two words anyways, so why not?
 

Superstar

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Blue Yoshi said:
Brawl is a success competitively, so that means it must be good enough
It's actually a competitive failure. It may work casually, but it's just disgusting competitively.

The entry level bar is set too low, the gap between entry level and pro is too low, and it's spectating thrill [part of what decides how competiive it should get] is too low.

If you mean it actually has a scene, there exists such a thing as "competitive L4D". Which the thought of makes me crack up despite liking the game. Just because it's popular really means nothing. Probably for the reason it fails competitively is what gives it a scene.
 

Surri-Sama

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If you mean it actually has a scene, there exists such a thing as "competitive L4D". Which the thought of makes me crack up despite liking the game. Just because it's popular really means nothing. Probably for the reason it fails competitively is what gives it a scene.
QFT, Closing this because I dont think this is going any where progressive...honestly
 
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