MunchyMunch
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Are you taiking about me?
I don't know any spiders, and if a spider told me to post this, I'd need a change of pants.
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Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0
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I don't know any spiders, and if a spider told me to post this, I'd need a change of pants.
Frostwraith
The Demon King
Consider Lucina and Dark Pit as glorified alt costumes.
They were meant to be alts, but the very slight changes (which by the way Sakurai talks about Lucina seem to be somehow accidental) were the reason they were given their own slot, as to not mess with the game records.
Given the statistical nature of game records, no matter how minimal changes may be between two different characters, they would be skewed if two different characters shared the same slot. If the records are meant to be exact, no detail, no matter how small, should interfere with a precise tracking of character usage.
My theory is that the development team was tweaking around with Marth and Pit and came up with those now alternate versions and decided to keep them by splitting Lucina and Dark Pit, upgrading their alt status to a standalone character. It's not that outlandish, considering things during development are never set in stone until the project is declared finished. Tweaks and slight changes happen all the time during development: I know it from programming experience.
It also likely helped Lucina and Dark Pit have a significant amount of popularity, mainly in Japan, to the point there's merchandise of them there. This makes their inclusion a bit more justified. They're very much this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnsembleDarkhorse
The fact they're very similar may also have to do with balancing, given they were made late in development.
Saikyoshi
Smash Master
One thing that struck me as odd about that list is that a lot of characters from the same series are right next to each other. Fox/Falco. Lucario/Greninja. DK/Diddy. Now that I think about that, it is a bit suspicious.
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Did I ever mention I love Sakurai?
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Why do you think he's not so good?
The-Power-Within
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>DHD and Robin are high/top tierWhat do you guys think about this tier list? Found it on SonyGAF:
Why is the majority of the Zelda cast bottom tier yet Sheik is at the top?
That's a good tier lis-
>Ike and Ness are low/bottom tier
0/10 worst tier list ever
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Favoritism? What's that?
Ahem *points at username*
And hot springs, like everyone with two thumbs do.
Did I ever mention I love Sakurai?
FlareHabanero
Banned via Warnings
It's pretty much all opinion. The most glaring thing is this whole tier list seems to based heavily on a purely offensive tactic, for example I can tell you right now Bowser is not going to be S+ due to still having his inherent flaws of being a grappler/mighty glacier. Respect his space, and he becomes more managable. If you don't, you're going to get crushed.
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Saikyoshi
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He'll still definitely be at least some trouble, though. He can kill at 60%, which simply shouldn't happen.
Golden Gallade
Smash Ace
From what I've seen, granted I haven't played the full game so I can't say with 100% certainty, he doesn't seam very strong. All of attacks look super slow and weak. His recovery is slow. His smashes are multi hit moves and don't have a lot of knock back. His side b (I think it's his side b, the guy that comes out and shoots) Is incredibly slow and useless.
FlareHabanero
Banned via Warnings
Then don't get hit. His strongest moves leave him wide open, allowing you leg room to either block the attack and retaliate with a grab or attack, or stay your distance and approach with your attack of choice.
Remember, he's powerful but slow, which goes back to what I said about the inherent flaws of his design because of it.
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I think we've been watching different Duck Hunt players then, because from what I've seen, quite a lot of that isn't true.
Substitution
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So I've had a lot of fun these past few days. As I think I'm coming down with something. I'm hoping it's just allergies, but knowing my luck it could be something else.
Golden Gallade
Smash Ace
That very well could be true. I don't want to make to many judgments yet because I want to play the game before my final verdict.
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Actually, I believe the Gunman is his Down Special. His Side Special is the clay pigeon he throws.
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Golden Gallade
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I thought the clay pigeon was the neutral special.
Crescendo
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It's a tier list some guy made by watching videos of the game and is posted everywhere to get a rise out of people.What do you guys think about this tier list? Found it on SonyGAF:
Why is the majority of the Zelda cast bottom tier yet Sheik is at the top?
People are being extremely hasty when it comes to tier lists, especially since the game isn't even released worldwide. It took like, what, months to get Brawl's first tier list? And even from there, it evolved drastically.
TheFirstPoppyBro
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Neutral Special is the can.
That way, you can push B to make it move without using a different move.
Moon Monkey
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As people have mentioned, it's fake. The person that made it said he made it to get a rise out of people.What do you guys think about this tier list? Found it on SonyGAF:
Why is the majority of the Zelda cast bottom tier yet Sheik is at the top?
Here is a more legit teir list: http://apps.warchamp7.com/smash/tierlist/ curtsey of @Warchamp7
WAAAAY too early to begin thinking about tier lists guys.
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That's the barrel.
Autumn ♫
I'm terrible with these Custom Titles.
I think it's going to take an even longer time for Smash 4's tier list to be made than Brawl's was, especially since we've got characters like Rosalina and Luma, who has a very high learning curve.
Jason the Yoshi
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Not much, I'm borrowing Kid Icarus Uprising from a friend, and it's pretty awesome.
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That's so.... perfect.
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Umh... yuri selfcest OTP?
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Well, I'm disappointed by Sonic still being low tier. But other than that I think it's okay.
FlareHabanero
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Wow, I'm surprised Stop It is S tier. I was expecting B or C tier honestly.
Golden Gallade
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In other news
I'm glad. I guess I never really expressed my liking for the tcg. I like the tcg a lot, not as much as the vg, but still a lot. The only problem is, this sucks. Mewtwo destroys it completely.
I'm glad. I guess I never really expressed my liking for the tcg. I like the tcg a lot, not as much as the vg, but still a lot. The only problem is, this sucks. Mewtwo destroys it completely.
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That's what I always hate about it. People always call it lower tier without reason, and then when people find out what it's really like they call bias.
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Seeing that most of my planned mains (minus Peach and DK) are in B tier or higher, I think this is interesting for nowWhat do you guys think about this tier list? Found it on SonyGAF:
Why is the majority of the Zelda cast bottom tier yet Sheik is at the top?
Also WHY do the Triforce trio need to be on the bottom again? I wanna bet it's someone's personal opinion on them and want to see them suck. Feels weird for Marth and Falco to be bumped down hard
Moon Monkey
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Yeah same... I'm also really loving her Time New Roman alt costume!
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The fact that Bowser is shown at the top still makes me happy.
Wario and Falcon seem to be doing well.
I would display Wario as my Wii U main,if the mods ever noticed they just added Classic Wario on the options.
Mods confirmed Biker haters.
Wario and Falcon seem to be doing well.
I would display Wario as my Wii U main,if the mods ever noticed they just added Classic Wario on the options.
Mods confirmed Biker haters.
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Is it just me, or this thread has been much less active today?
You know what? You can tag Warchamp yourself.
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Activity is a bit low on the weekends usually.
It looks more like one is torturing the other. That expression, really.
Umh... yuri selfcest OTP?
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Crescendo
Smash Journeyman
Why would you care about Biker Wario when Classic Wario has a giant car?
Now that should have been a custom move!
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It's been normal to me.
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Pardon me if I don't see the problem with that. ¦D
RamOne
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Sakurai bias showing again.What do you guys think about this tier list? Found it on SonyGAF:
Why is the majority of the Zelda cast bottom tier yet Sheik is at the top?
Golden Gallade
Smash Ace
Copy paste from pokebeach
Gallade-EX - Psychic - HP170
Basic Pokemon
[P][C][C] Assault Sword: 40+ damage. Does 40 more damage if the opponent's Active Pokemon has no Energy attached to it.
[P][P][C][C] Cross Cut: 130 damage. This Pokemon can't use Cross Cut during your next turn.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Ewwww
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