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Professor Pumpkaboo

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really ****ing awesome and really ****ing gorey

Mythra Mythra You see what you ****ing did? Its a thing now
I regret nothing :gova:

"MY WRYYYYYYYY IS NOW!"


On other news; I finally got my stuff together and trained properly my Platinum team
The fact Gen IV calculates the EVs only on specific events (now they're calculated after every battle) makes the level ups look really cool :denzel:
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I also fixed my Steelix who got +17 Attack points
Now Im retraining my Empoleon by using Kelpsy Berries
 
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By this point my job here is pretty much posting things I found I think you guys will like.

Now for something completely unrelated: Should I get Symphony of the Night, get a Sonic amiibo, or continue to save for J Stars?
 
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By this point my job here is pretty much posting things I found I think you guys will like.

Now for something completely unrelated: Should I get Symphony of the Night, get a Sonic amiibo, or continue to save for J Stars?
Symphony of the Night.

 

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I am checking the thread. Also @Cyndane i played some of Red Hunter X's levels and stared them and i will also play yours after school. :)

I am going back to bed. Good night!
 
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"You welcomed Slime into your heart"
That doesn't sound healthy...

So Professor Pumpkaboo Professor Pumpkaboo
So far, in battle, everything Yosuke has done has been out of my control.
Is this how the battle system works, or will I eventually get to control what Yosuke does?
Just curious.
NEVERMIND, Teddie just burst in with the "Yosuke sucks" and now apparently I can control him.
 
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I'm not sure if that really is a victory for the free market. Everyone had some share of the land to work on--it was relatively equal. That was good. But a free market allows some to take the land of others. So, eventually, some still starved regardless. They pretty much moved from one terrible system to another. :drshrug:
I understand what you're getting at. Since equality is good and abundance of crop was gained after a roughly equal apportionment, then the success can be attributed to equality.

A few wrenches in that view, then.
Every rapid increase in accumulated capital and necessarily the standard of living has been preceded by an agricultural or mini-agricultural revolution of some sort. In 13th century Europe, it was the three field system. Right before the industrial revolution, it was the enclosure movement and cottage industries, all of which brought about a heightened competition as Britain did away with renaissance feudal land ownership methods and allowed people to purchase land from their competitors. In every case the amount of people who had to work the land got to be less, and human labour capital is freed up to perform other tasks that beforehand were not possible due to the resources required to get the same amount of food.
A heightened competition means that the people who are best at doing the thing are promoted, and thus have more capital to do even better than their would-be competitors, and the worse people are forced to some industry where they're more productive. I'd also appeal to the law of comparative advantage as a mathematical proof for the beauty of the division of labour and everyone having their place in this world.

Furthermore, the principle of equality is flawed. It's not found in the natural law at all; if it were, there simply wouldn't be anyone that had any ability to be a doctor, or an engineer, and we would all look and act exactly the same. No, equality is patently a bad thing; without inequality we wouldn't have anyone to do the high work or anyone to do the necessary low work. To allow any enforcement of equality begs the question of making it universal and thus consistent application of the principle.

On Plymouth Colony itself, every indication says that communal ownership means laziness of the people and death from famine and rampant theft, and communal ownership is the most equal possible form of ownership.
I'll acknowledge a Marxian principle here: The haves get more and the have-nots get less over time until they rise up. Now, we have a clear chronology before Marx is ever born that indicates less equality, if we're granting that the apportionment of land was equal and that, over time, the land would be consolidated in the hands of fewer still people, it turns out a very good thing. The people never had another famine after the socialist experiments: if that doesn't indicate progress, I can't think of what does. Indeed, they started exporting corn they were producing so much of it, and the whole of society was thereby enriched by cheap crop.

Same situation in Jamestown, which had its socialist experiment earlier in 1607 with comparably disastrous results, halving each shipment of people in a year.

No, the chief complaint of people in every region had nothing to do with equality, it was that they were being forced to work for other people's husbands and wives and children. Once the free market and private property were established, everyone became many times more industrious and many times more happy, and continued to be happier as the division of labour increased.
 
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"You welcomed Slime into your heart"
That doesn't sound healthy...

So Professor Pumpkaboo Professor Pumpkaboo
So far, in battle, everything Yosuke has done has been out of my control.
Is this how the battle system works, or will I eventually get to control what Yosuke does?
Just curious.
You can change his AI to Direct Control. I wanna say you push square (Forgot which button) outside of battle in the dungeon and Teddie asks you what's up. Then you can either talk or change your party members' tactics.
 
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So Yosuke's Shadow was "Yosuke?"
And now Chie's shadow is "Chie-Like Voice"
What, will Yukiko's Shadow be "Sort of Kind of Yukiko"?
:troll:
 

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Oh man, first a worker-ninja-frog-blowupdoll, and NOW we have a Banana-wrestlermask-knifehair-whipholdiing-stackofpeople!
Shadows are weird.

BTW, I like this boss theme.

Having a good experience with Persona 4 so far.

It's so great that they do a cartoon-fight cloud when they rush in. That's just awesome.
 
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Professor Pumpkaboo

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So Yosuke's Shadow was "Yosuke?"
And now Chie's shadow is "Chie-Like Voice"
What, will Yukiko's Shadow be "Sort of Kind of Yukiko"?
:troll:
I hope you know thats the point of the Shadows
You can change his AI to Direct Control. I wanna say you push square (Forgot which button) outside of battle in the dungeon and Teddie asks you what's up. Then you can either talk or change your party members' tactics.
Yeah this. you can change it so that you control what everyone in your party does

Although it seems to got it already lol
 
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I would like to dedicate my 5,000th post to Sehnsucht Sehnsucht in a place that isn't the DR.
I love you (though I love my shrine to you more).

How's everyone doing tonight?
 

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I would like to dedicate my 5,000th post to Sehnsucht Sehnsucht in a place that isn't the DR.
I love you (though I love my shrine to you more).

How's everyone doing tonight?
I'd like to dedicate my open palm to your ass in celebration of the spanking to ensue.

So come and genuflect over the shrine that is my lap, son, and reap the reward of deigning to tag me in places.

 

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Man, RWBY Vol. 3 should be coming any week now.

I was hoping we would at least get an official word on release.

Especially since the Vol. 3 Poster/Ren figure simultaneous releases close to the time of Yang in Death Battle are DEFINITELY leading up to SOMETHING.
 

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I'd like to dedicate my open palm to your *** in celebration of the spanking to ensue.

So come and genuflect over the shrine that is my lap, son, and reap the reward of deigning to tag me in places.
Oh hey it's Sehnsucht! Remember me? I was the guy who-


...

Oh God I didn't do ANYTHING unique or interesting when you were a regular here.

Just trust me on this one I came up with "Royu Leak" as a term and brought back Hunger Games.
 

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Nowhere in any Plymouth Colony account did anyone mention working harder because they were 'equal' with the other land owners in that way. You're stretching it. But, I understand the principle. Since equality is good, so you think, and abundance of crop was gained after a roughly equal apportionment (again, not explicitly indicated), then the success can be attributed to equality.
I never said that there was an exact cause-and-effect relationship between equality and working harder--more precisely, because everyone had land to work on they had their own motivations to work and grow food. So everyone had food and that was all good and peachy. The fact that everyone had the opportunity to grow their own food can be attributed to equality, however.

A few wrenches in that plan, then. Every economic growth spurt in humanity, that is the rapid increase in standards of living, has been preceded by an agricultural or mini-agricultural revolution of some sort.
Here's a wrench: What about Post-World War II America?
In 13th century Europe, it was the three field system. Right before the industrial revolution, it was the enclosure movement and cottage industries, all of which brought about a heightened competition as Britain did away with renaissance feudal land ownership methods and allowed people to purchase land from their competitors. In every case, the amount of people who have to work the land get to be less, and human capital, that is labour capital, is freed up to perform other tasks that beforehand were not possible due to the resources required to get the same amount of food. Also in every case, a heightened competition means that the people who are best at doing the thing are promoted, and thus have more capital to do even better than their would-be competitors.
Diversification of labor, yes. Now about that last part. What happens when it reaches the point of a monopoly? Competition is irrelevant at that point. All the good turns to bad. Monopolies haven't formed after every such event, yes, but when they did, it caused more harm than good.

Furthermore, the principle of equality is flawed. It's not found in the natural law at all; if it were, there simply wouldn't be anyone that had any ability to be a doctor, or an engineer, and we would all look and act exactly the same. No, equality is patently a bad thing; without inequality we wouldn't have anyone to do the high work or anyone to do the necessary low work. To attempt any application of equality begs the question of universally, and thus consistently, applying the principle, there is no 'up to a point.'
Here's how I see equality: Altruism is an important aspect of human nature--regardless of what societies may argue what is moral and what isn't, altruism has a singular definition: Assisting others to further the long-term survival of the species. This idea of aiding other individuals can take many forms, whether it be for promoting LGBT rights or donating to the poor. In this case, it takes the form of promoting equal opportunity: Humans aren't created equal, that is true, but by arguing for equality and ensuring that every individual has a chance, humanity benefits as a whole. So when I say "equality", this is what I mean. I apologize for not making the distinction clear earlier.

On Plymouth Colony itself, every indication says that communal ownership means laziness of the people and death from famine and rampant theft, and communal ownership is the most equal possible form of ownership.
I'll acknowledge a Marxian principle here: The haves get more and the have-nots get less over time until they rise up. Now, we have a clear chronology before Marx is ever born that indicates less equality, if we're granting that the apportionment of land was equal and that, over time, the land would be consolidated in the hands of fewer still people, is a very good thing. The people never had another famine: if that doesn't indicate progress, I can't think of what does. Indeed, they started exporting corn they were producing so much of it, and the whole of society was thereby enriched by cheap crop.

Same situation in Jamestown, which had its socialist experiment earlier in 1607 with comparably disastrous results, halving each shipment of people in a year.
No, the chief complaint of people had nothing to do with equality, it was that they were being forced to work for other people's husbands and wives and children, and once the free market and private property was established, everyone became many times more industrious and many times more happy.
Here's why I dislike the free market and communal ownership: They're both unrealistic. Communism gives everyone equality, but it kills the individual's spirit--what's the purpose of contributing to the community if everyone will get the same reward regardless? To some extent, the inherent savage and selfish behavior of humanity must be indulged. A free market could do that, but it takes it too far. Competition gives people a chance to diversify and shine in their own individual ways, but it can allow for this selfishness to come at the expense of the human race. Monopolies remove what good a free market had to offer in the first place and opportunities for the individual are lost. At this point, it is no better than communism because it stifles the human spirit (with the exception of the select few who benefit from the monopolies). Ultimately, if the situation continues to deteriorate, a governmental collapse is likely, possibly leading to the establishment of a more authoritarian regime (since people are more receptive to extremist leaders during hard times).
 

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I managed to find a solution to my "Wii can't read discs anymore" problem... and without spending a single penny, so I'm quite glad :)
What is your solution? I must know to fix mine!

Story: Today I went to Best Buy after work to get a new Marth amiibo and to return a first edition Dark Pit amiibo because it had a purple stain on the chin of the box art. I picked up the last Marth and the sword was pretty straight this time. A kid said he wanted it, so I told him to ask his mom first. I told her I would be fine with giving it to him, but she kept saying it's fine and told him to pick another amiibo. I think the kid started throwing a tantrum. I kept insisting that I'm fine with giving it up for the kid because I want more kids to be able to experience owning the harder to find amiibos (without explaining that last part), but she eventually took her kid away after saying it's really nice of me. I ended up buying Marth and a second Shulk. I'm now wondering if I should return the first Marth and a Shulk, or keep both and just open one of each...hard choices.
 

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I have been graced with the presence of Sensucht again. What a day.
 
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I'd like to dedicate my open palm to your *** in celebration of the spanking to ensue.

So come and genuflect over the shrine that is my lap, son, and reap the reward of deigning to tag me in places.
Oh hey I remember you.

Can we still summon Ridley if we tag you five times or is that not a thing anymore?
and to return a first edition Dark Pit amiibo because it had a purple stain on the chin of the box art.
A PURPLE STAIN ON THE PACKAGING?
OH LORDY LORDY THIS TRULY IS THE END TIMES
 

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I never said that there was an exact cause-and-effect relationship between equality and working harder--more precisely, because everyone had land to work on they had their own motivations to work and grow food. So everyone had food and that was all good and peachy. The fact that everyone had the opportunity to grow their own food can be attributed to equality, however.


Here's a wrench: What about Post-World War II America?

Diversification of labor, yes. Now about that last part. What happens when it reaches the point of a monopoly? Competition is irrelevant at that point. All the good turns to bad. Monopolies haven't formed after every such event, yes, but when they did, it caused more harm than good.


Here's how I see equality: Altruism is an important aspect of human nature--regardless of what societies may argue what is moral and what isn't, altruism has a singular definition: Assisting others to further the long-term survival of the species. This idea of aiding other individuals can take many forms, whether it be for promoting LGBT rights or donating to the poor. In this case, it takes the form of promoting equal opportunity: Humans aren't created equal, that is true, but by arguing for equality and ensuring that every individual has a chance, humanity benefits as a whole. So when I say "equality", this is what I mean. I apologize for not making the distinction clear earlier.


Here's why I dislike the free market and communal ownership: They're both unrealistic. Communism gives everyone equality, but it kills the individual's spirit--what's the purpose of contributing to the community if everyone will get the same reward regardless? To some extent, the inherent savage and selfish behavior of humanity must be indulged. A free market could do that, but it takes it too far. Competition gives people a chance to diversify and shine in their own individual ways, but it can allow for this selfishness to come at the expense of the human race. Monopolies remove what good a free market had to offer in the first place and opportunities for the individual are lost. At this point, it is no better than communism because it stifles the human spirit (with the exception of the select few who benefit from the monopolies). Ultimately, if the situation continues to deteriorate, a governmental collapse is likely, possibly leading to the establishment of a more authoritarian regime (since people are more receptive to extremist leaders during hard times).
Shouldn't this be taken to the Debate halls?
 
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