sm4sh falcon = n64 falcon?

[asd_]

the playstyle looks very similar to a 64 falcon, would I be correct? 64 falcon is my man so i'm pretty excited

 

[1FC0]

I like Smash64 Falcon too aside from the lack of knee. Too bad this one ain't it.

 

[asd_]

I like Smash64 Falcon too aside from the lack of knee. Too bad this one ain't it.

uair strings seems like a thing with combo potential into an up b, and bair approaching seems viable due to the autocanceling, downthrow is near guarenteed aerial setups just like 64....what's the main differences in feel then?

i'm not talking about moveset, talking about just the overall feel/playstyle of the character. from 64 to melee he changed a lot, this (to me) looks more 64-esque falcon.

 

[BigLord]

Still a lot more like Brawl, IMO. Specially now that Falcon Dive doesn't kill anymore

 

[link2702]

not really.

though a hell of a lot better than brawl falcon.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

He's honestly a hybrid between Melee and Brawl Falcon imo

 

[asd_]

He's honestly a hybrid between Melee and Brawl Falcon imo

i have no idea how brawl falcon plays but it's noted

 

[LunarWingCloud]

Brawl Falcon plays like if you were playing a top tier deck in a trading card game, then took all the best cards out and replaced them with poor man's versions of those cards. Sure, it's not unfamiliar, but it's poop tier compared to how good it used to be.

 

[Exor]

I think Falcon feels like a beautiful combination of all three previous Falcons. He's definitely got a bit of 64 in him thanks to his Uairs that you can string into Up B (although Up B doesn't kill). He's definitely better than Brawl Falcon.

 

[Sleeplost]

Cap feels sorta like a blend of Brawl and Melee Falcon. Plenty of the Nerfs fed by Brawl but carries some of the things that made him great in Melee.

It's a surreal feeling playing Cap now and saying "Damn I don't know whether I like playing as him or not."

I'd say wait for more techs to be discovered so that we can make the best out of each character, including Cap.

 

[BigLord]

I must be an odd character because I liked playing Falcon in Brawl and didn't really like using him in Melee, when comparing both Falcons. I don't know, I probably just like Brawl's physics better...

 

[Sleeplost]

I must be an odd character because I liked playing Falcon in Brawl and didn't really like using him in Melee, when comparing both Falcons. I don't know, I probably just like Brawl's physics better...

>I probably just like Brawl's physics better...
That's really odd, actually. I've never actually heard anyone say that before.
I'm not saying it's bad or anything, but it sure is new.

 

[BigLord]

It's probably worth mentioning that I prefer my fighting games to be based on reads, not combos, heh.

I did enjoy 64's Falcon, though. Because he was the coolest of the whole cast, I guess.

 

[victra♥]

Brawl Falcon plays like if you were playing a top tier deck in a trading card game, then took all the best cards out and replaced them with poor man's versions of those cards. Sure, it's not unfamiliar, but it's poop tier compared to how good it used to be.

this is an accurate comparison

 

[Nixon Corral]

It's probably worth mentioning that I prefer my fighting games to be based on reads, not combos, heh.

I did enjoy 64's Falcon, though. Because he was the coolest of the whole cast, I guess.

It is a common and incorrect fallacy to say that Melee is somehow less read-based than Brawl.

But that's probably not an argument worth having on the Smash 4 Falcon board, I suppose. :\

 

[asd_]

It is a common and incorrect fallacy to say that Melee is somehow less read-based than Brawl.

But that's probably not an argument worth having on the Smash 4 Falcon board, I suppose. :\

he means 64; reads are more important in brawl rather than 64 and melee simply because the mechanical skill cap is much lower, therefore you can't have insanely good combo skills / tech skills to make up for your lack of ability to read people at low to mid level play. i don't think that will be debated by anyone.

and it's a totally valid opinion to prefer your fighting games to emphasize mental skill rather than mechanical skill. not one i agree with but it's still valid.

I think Falcon feels like a beautiful combination of all three previous Falcons. He's definitely got a bit of 64 in him thanks to his Uairs that you can string into Up B (although Up B doesn't kill). He's definitely better than Brawl Falcon.

thanks for the post,

does he feel as unwieldy as he is in melee though? not sure if that's the right word i'm looking for

it should be noted that im iffy about falcon in melee/pm but love him in 64, mostly because his grab/uair game

 

[hariooo]

My left arm would be more important if I didn't have my right arm but even as a fully armed person, my left arm is a pretty big deal. So the fact that reads are more important in Brawl just means the game took away something essential to the completeness of a fighting game.

Let's put it this way. No one who played Falcon seriously in Melee is going to play him in Smash 4. It's like playing basketball with one hand. You're just so limited in what you know the potential of the character design to be. There's more fun characters out there. Of course if you've never played Melee Falcon at that level then you're more likely to enjoy the Uair->Uair combos without baggage.

 

[Crome]

I've gotten a side b>uair>uair>up b kill before on a little mac, but if we weren't already off stage he would've lived. Maybe there are some elements of 64 falcon, but not too many.

 

[1FC0]

Smash64 falcon combo'ed much better than this 1. Everyone in Smash64 combo'ed like crazy except Link, Samus, and maybe a few others.