shoddyteam17

[Zook]

This is the team I've been using for the past week or so. I've been winning more than I've been losing, so I've decided to post it here. Enjoy!

Armaldo @ Leftovers
Battle Armor
EVs: 252 Hp/10 Atk/160 Def/88 SpDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
-Stealth Rock
-Knock Off
-Stone Edge
-X-Scissor/Earthquake

My all time, #1 favorite lead ever. Bulky, unusual, and it gets Knock Off. He sets up Stealth Rocks, Knocks Off a few items, Spins away annoyances, and procedes to rip apart some Pokemon with Stone Edge.

Smogon still recognizes Knock Off as an egg move, so it's not letting me have both at the moment...

Rapid Spin hasn;t been helping me. Super awsome STB move or EQ?

Sceptile @ Lum Berry
Overgrow
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
-Leaf Blade
-Earthquake
-Brick Break/Dragon Claw/Thunder Punch
-Swords Dance

The fearsome Swordstile. He rules. Not too sure about that last slot, though- Brick Break can break walls while owning Blissey, EQ can surprise kill Scarftran, and TP puts a small dent in Skarm and Gyara. Any help?

EDIT: Outrage has been replaced with Earthquake, I need it the most.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Hp/192 Def/66 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
-Roar
-Wish
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Quick Attack

Pretty standard PHazer/healer. I don't know if he should also double as a Dragon slayer or a finisher.

Azelf @ Choice Band
Levitate
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
-Zen Headbutt
-Explosion/Thunderbolt/ThunderPunch
-FirePunch
-U-Turn

Choicelf. Adamant Nature gives him HOLY**** attack. Gets walled by Heatran, though... Anything I should replace Explosion with?]

EDIT: I'm considering replacing Explosion with an Electric move.

Rotom (Cut form) @ Leftovers
Levitate
EVs: 252 Hp/124 Def/134 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
-Will-o-Wisp
-Thunder Wave
-Sucker Punch
-Thunder Bolt

They see me mowin'... Double-status inflicter. They hate it. Sucker Punch kills low-Hp sweepers, and TB does a nice bit of damage. Maybe put Leaf Storm in there? I dunno.

EDIT: No Leaf Storm, too predictable.

Salamence @ Life Orb
Intimidate
EVs: 80 Atk/176 Spd/252 SpAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SpDef)
-Brick Break
-Cruch
-Draco Meteor
-Heat Wave/Fre Blast

I stole this guy from Articanus. Heheh. Anyhow, this set is really effective, wall breaker, great coverage, and I replaced Fire Blast with Heat Wave.

EDIT: Which is worth more, HW's 5 extra Accuracy, or FB's 20 extra Power?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Tery likes. Good job.

-Ter

 

[SkylerOcon]

If you're going for Brick Break on Salamence, you should probably choose 'quake or thunder punch on the Sceptile so you can cover other Pokemon.

Spoiler

inb4somebodytellingmewhyimextremelywrojnginwhatijustsaid

 

[Zook]

Alright...

So, anyone have any, you know, in-depth advice? PReaper? Articanus? Anyone...?

 

[Metal~Mario]

Your armaldo kicks major ***!

Why do 3 of your pokemon have leftovers? Isn't that illegal?

 

[Zook]

Your armaldo kicks major ***!

Why do 3 of your pokemon have leftovers? Isn't that illegal?

Are you just guessing, or have you tested it yourself?

Anyhow, Item Clause isn't common. Leftovers rules.

 

[Metal~Mario]

I'm basing my opinion on what you just said about having more wins than losses.

Hmmm...

I guess he's toast for any special sweeper with HP water or surf, but you could predict the switch and bring in vaporeon to negate it. so... yeah, he kicks ***.

and yes, leftovers does own.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Pictures removed to make this quicker

This is the team I've been using for the past week or so. I've been winning more than I've been losing, so I've decided to post it here. Enjoy!

Armaldo @ Leftovers
Battle Armor
EVs: 252 Hp/10 Atk/160 Def/88 SpDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
-Stealth Rock
-Knock Off
-Stone Edge
-Rapid Spin/X-Scissor

My all time, #1 favorite lead ever. Bulky, unusual, and it gets Knock Off. He sets up Stealth Rocks, Knocks Off a few items, Spins away annoyances, and procedes to rip apart some Pokemon with Stone Edge.

Smogon still recognizes Knock Off as an egg move, so it's not letting me have both at the moment...

What exactly are those 10 Attack EV's for? Do they let you OHKO something you wouldn't normally? Why not just pump them into SpDef instead and let it take a hit better? Also, why put rapid spin on a lead, to annoy all the suicide leads that are so common right now? Oh well, in terms of actual help I would say EQ over Rapid Spin to give you better coverage as a lead.


Sceptile @ Lum Berry
Overgrow
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
-Leaf Blade
-Outrage
-Brick Break/Earthquake/Thunder Punch
-Swords Dance

The fearsome Swordstile. He rules. Not too sure about that last slot, though- Brick Break can break walls while owning Blissey, EQ can surprise kill Scarftran, and TP puts a small dent in Skarm and Gyara. Any help?

I have never liked Outrage on anything really, not even on Garchomp. It basically ruins the point of setting up because you get something that ends up walling you coming in and OHKOing you(which is more likely for a mono grass type) For best type coverage you could go Leaf Blade/Dragon Claw/Thunder Punch/SD. After a swords dance you 2HKO any blissey with Leaf Blade and OHKO any Gyara's who switch in 97% of the time with T.Punch. This also lets you hit both Skarmory and Heatran. If you stick a Life Orb on the set you can 2HKO Skarmor and deal some decent damage to Heatran(You could probably 2HKO but since most are Scarfed its not a good idea to stay in on them)

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Hp/192 Def/66 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
-Roar
-Wish
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Quick Attack

Pretty standard PHazer/healer. I don't know if he should also double as a Dragon slayer or a finisher.

Fine

Azelf @ Choice Band
Levitate
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
-Zen Headbutt
-Explosion
-Fire Punch
-U-Turn

Choicelf. Adamant Nature gives him HOLY**** attack. Gets walled by Heatran, though... Anything I should replace Explosion with?

Once again if you want to hit Heatran your best(or rather ONLY) option is Thunder Punch. This also means you can do something to Bulky Gyara(after intimidate you cant 2HKO him with Zen Headbutt) and get a hit in on Salamence.


Rotom (Cut form) @ Leftovers
Levitate
EVs: 252 Hp/124 Def/134 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -SpDef)
-Will-o-Wisp
-Thunder Wave
-Sucker Punch
-Thunder Bolt

They see me mowin'... Double-status inflicter. They hate it. Sucker Punch kills low-Hp sweepers, and TB does a nice bit of damage. Maybe put Leaf Storm in there? I dunno.

I personally prefer Rotom Heat Forme over Cut Forme just because it makes a better spin blocker hitting the only OU Spinners Super Effectively and also being able to take on Shaymin-S. Also, why use a -SpDef nature on something with SpDef EV's?

Salamence @ Life Orb
Intimidate
EVs: 80 Atk/176 Spd/252 SpAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SpDef)
-Brick Break
-Cruch
-Draco Meteor
-Heat Wave

I stole this guy from Articanus. Heheh. Anyhow, this set is really effective, wall breaker, great coverage, and I replaced Fire Blast with Heat Wave.

2 MOVES THAT LOWER YOUR SP.DEF 2 STAGES! That seems a little overkill don't you think? At least with Fire Blast if something that takes a neutral hit switches in you can still Draco Meteor for the kill >.>

 

[jigglyppuff8]

Bold is + def - atk.
+ def - sp. def is Lax.
Just saying.

 

[Zook]

@ Pink Reaper: I forget why I put those 10 Atk EVs on Armaldo. I'm pretty sure it let me KO something, though... He has Rapid Spin because I normally end up switching him out on an EQ to Rotom or a Surf to Vaporeon. None of my Pokes are resistant to SR, 2 take 25% of their health, and none of them enjoy stepping on Toxic Spikes.

Salamence has Heat Wave, not Over Heat. Heat Wave is a 100 power, 90 accuracy, 10 PP move. Think of the midway between Flamethrower and Fire Blast. I use it over Fire Blast because I hate missing with FB.

Rotom-h just screams for a Heatran switch-in. With Cut Forme, I can scare away Swamperts and Paralyze Gengars, which switch in on him alot.

Outrage rips through EVERYTHING not Steel after a SD. I mostly use it for late-game sweeping when I know that it'll be just as useful as Leaf Blade.

Hmm, TP on Azelf? I might try it.

I made a typo, Bold is -Atk, not -SpDef.

 

[Pink Reaper]

+2 Outrage Vs Max HP/0Def Scizor: 28.78% - 33.72%

Vs Defensive Celebi: 36.14% - 42.33%
Vs Dusknoir: 39.46% - 46.26%
Vs Cresselia: 35.75% - 41.97%
Vs Jirachi: Lol 20.70% - 24.44%

Most walls(and scizor) survive easily(Only Dusknoir cant heal himself)

 

[A_man13]

+2 Outrage Vs Max HP/0Def Scizor: 28.78% - 33.72%

Vs Defensive Celebi: 36.14% - 42.33%
Vs Dusknoir: 39.46% - 46.26%
Vs Cresselia: 35.75% - 41.97%
Vs Jirachi: Lol 20.70% - 24.44%

Most walls(and scizor) survive easily(Only Dusknoir cant heal himself)

He gets pain split if that counts for anything.

That looks really well done. I faced a real similar team this morning.

-Armaldo might want a better move over knock off, but it's perfectly fine. Really unusual but cool role.

-Sceptile has the same moveset I use. You might consider taking outrage off and replacing it with dragon claw as pink said. You might also consider focus band so that it can survive a move warming up.

-Vaporion is good, as is azelef (but follow pink yet again)

-Rotom-C. Avoid leaf storm unless you use charge beam or something to back up the stat loss.

-Salamence: You might consider a larger attack stat. Otherwise physical moves seem like a waste of a moveset.

Great team. Love to play you on shoddy sometime.

 

[Zook]

Team updated a bit.