shine double laser help!!!!!!!!

[BrianTheLion]

I know this technique is useless it just looks so freaken tight so when u do it do have to go super fast and does it take alot of practice.

 

[MarsFool!]

1. It ***** campy peaches.
2. You dont have to aim the lasers.
3. Thus one is almost guaranteed to hit.

And your...question..doesnt really make sense. Try re wording it perhaps?

 

[Lovage 805]

Jump with up

 

[4 Aces]

I like to slide from y to b. It takes a while to learn. I found it frustrating to do at first, but when I finally got it down, it's not too bad. I'm just inconsistent with it. My fingers were pretty sore, because the constant friction from sliding between the two buttons wore away the skin. It takes a long time before you can actually use it in battle. When you first learn it and then try to move while doing it, you will die a lot.

 

[tutata]

Any other ways ppl do this??? If you can do it consistently post your way here i wanna learn to.

 

[Tyr_03]

Down B, up on analog, B twice. The trick is learning to short hop with the analog but I find it much easier to do this way than with X or Y and it's much easier on your fingers. Once you get the hang of it it gets really easy to shine turn around SHDL which is the most useful application IMO. I love running away and doing this and then laser camping until they're forced to approach. Or just show off after you KO an opponent and do it in place over and over.

 

[Lovage 805]

Or jump with up.... I never ever miss double lasers, I jump with up. Learn to jump with up

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

It's not useless, very good against big foes. If you mix it up with full jump triple lasers it can also be good for putting pressure on small fast foes who try to jump away from your lasers (look at m2k videos for examples of good uses of this, especially when he plays against king).

I slide my thumb from Y to B (i always use Y to jump). I find it easier then short hopping with the control stick >.<. Ive actually done it a few times without sliding when my hands where to sweaty for successfull sliding.
BTW I know a guy who can SHDL with X and B consistently. He's insane though.

What I'm trying to say is that it's possible to do it in every kind of way, find a way of thats COMFORTABLE for you then train. Remember that you are also training the muscles in your fingers so don't give if you only do it once per 50th try, your fingers will get faster and stronger and youll eventually be able to do it consistently.

 

[Shai Hulud]

You won't hit most grounded opponents with both lasers unless you have frame perfect timing, which you probably don't. Check this thread for info on which characters you can hit with SHDL.

 

[Lovage 805]

Shai, always helpful. Jumping with up makes SHDL trivial, I don't try when i double laser I just do it naturally now. Anyway, maybe it would be smarter to just SHL against some people, I use it a lot against Marth, so I'm happy to see he is very vulnerable.

 

[4 Aces]

Can anyone here do it with the control stick while moving around? For example, dash --> reverse shdl --> repeat process? SHDL is cool. Too bad it's hard to fully utilize its purpose, since hitting with both lasers is the whole point. It also looks really cool.

 

[Tyr_03]

^^^
I pretty much only do it while moving. Usually I shine turnaround shdl though because it's easier.

 

[Lovage 805]

Can anyone here do it with the control stick while moving around? For example, dash --> reverse shdl --> repeat process? SHDL is cool. Too bad it's hard to fully utilize its purpose, since hitting with both lasers is the whole point. It also looks really cool.

If you mean jumping with Up, then yes. Its pretty easy

 

[kennypoopoo]

I find it easier to SHDL out of a shine then to just do it by itself probably because its slowed down a bit. I find it easiest to just slide my thumb from y to b for the lasers.

 

[Shai Hulud]

Can anyone here do it with the control stick while moving around? For example, dash --> reverse shdl --> repeat process? SHDL is cool. Too bad it's hard to fully utilize its purpose, since hitting with both lasers is the whole point. It also looks really cool.

I think clawing is probably the easiest way to consistently do frame perfect reverse SHDL, advancing SHDL, etc. That's what I do and I can shoot frame perfect SHDL about 90-95%.

 

[Tyr_03]

^^^
Wow really? Clawing is so awkward for me. I would have a hard time doing that in a real match.

 

[Shai Hulud]

^^^
Wow really? Clawing is so awkward for me. I would have a hard time doing that in a real match.

It's awkward until you get used to it. Some things are particularly hard to do clawing like SH with 4-frame characters but I've been clawing so long now I can't play with a normal grip. The main benefit is my game is very technical now with relatively little effort. I'm really surprised at how few Fox players claw. Other than me the only one I can think of is Hylian, but his technique is different from mine.

 

[Havokbringer]

Well if no one said this then I'll say it the way i SHDL is by holding down then hitting the B button and sliding my finger to the X button but not holding it there like a flicking motion from b to x then hittin the b for the lasers as fast as you can.Thats the way i do it and it's fairly easy.