shield lag

[Im Fragbait]

hey guys I need some help, I've been realizing that zero suit has quite a bit of lag out of her dash. It's to the point where even if you react to their attack when your half way through your dash you get punished hard. this becomes a problem when people throw out smash attacks.

I need some help finding ways to limit this lag, the only thing I've found that somewhat works is fox trotting.

ANYWAYS PLEASE HELP THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY REASON I DONT WANNA MAIN THIS CHARACTER

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Dash less often

Walking is less expected than a dahs and allows you to do anything (even smashes and dash attacks).

 

[Im Fragbait]

Dash less often

Walking is less expected than a dahs and allows you to do anything (even smashes and dash attacks).

Dash less often

Walking is less expected than a dahs and allows you to do anything (even smashes and dash attacks).

Is down b'ing backwards out of dash safe?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Is down b'ing backwards out of dash safe?

Could be if the opponent doesn't read it, but I wouldn't recommand it.

So about your problem, you can't sheild out of dash, right? Try sheilding WHILE running. Sheilding immediatly after a dash is laggy for everyone since dashes have ending lag, no matter who you play.

 

[Im Fragbait]

Could be if the opponent doesn't read it, but I wouldn't recommand it.

So about your problem, you can't sheild out of dash, right? Try sheilding WHILE running. Sheilding immediatly after a dash is laggy for everyone since dashes have ending lag, no matter who you play.

There's still lag on the running shield too, the only way to shield even close to IMMEDIATLEY is to walk -> shield

I was wondering if anyone found a way to like cancel this lag or make it faster or make it more responsive

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

There's still lag on the running shield too, the only way to shield even close to IMMEDIATLEY is to walk -> shield

I was wondering if anyone found a way to like cancel this lag or make it faster or make it more responsive

Funny, I sheild almost instantly and all I do is press the sheild button while running.

 

[Remzi]

There's still lag on the running shield too, the only way to shield even close to IMMEDIATLEY is to walk -> shield

I was wondering if anyone found a way to like cancel this lag or make it faster or make it more responsive

This isn't true, you can shield instantly out of run, just not the initial dash.

Nothing you can do to shorten the initial dash frames, all you can do is keep in mind that dashing in from close range isn't very safe.

 

[pichuthedk]

if you want to flip jump backwards that badly then.

just jump cancel flip jump backwards.

 

[Raisin]

I find shielding out of a dash to be pretty instant to me. It's usually what I always do. For example, ZSS's dash grab sometimes goes straight past my opponent, so to close that space if I want to grab them, I'd dash forward a bit, shield, and then grab since shield grabs don't carry momentum like dash grabs do.

 

[DeLux]

You can actually shield cancel a run into a dash grab or pivot grab if you're fast enough

 

[Raisin]

Wow, really? I never even knew that.

 

[iMeeHow]

In terms of shielding right away from a dash, make sure you are still holding Forward on your analog stick when you press shield. If you are dashing and you let go of forward, the character immediately goes into that laggy little slide and then you can shield after, which is not what you want. However, If you press shield before you release the forward, your character will immediately shield mid dash.

Idk if I am explaining this right, but in short what you want to do is
Hold Forward to Dash -> Keep Holding Forward -> Press Shield While Still holding Forward -> Release Forward
rather than
Hold Forward to Dash -> Release Forward on analog stick -> Press Shield.

 

[Lus146]

Dash less often

Walking is less expected than a dahs and allows you to do anything (even smashes and dash attacks).

How do you effectively walk rather than dash? I have been trying to figure it out but whenever I am in a real game and I try to walk I just end up going too fast and dashing instead. What are some ways that I Can react fast and still walk rather than dash?

 

[Raisin]

How do you effectively walk rather than dash? I have been trying to figure it out but whenever I am in a real game and I try to walk I just end up going too fast and dashing instead. What are some ways that I Can react fast and still walk rather than dash?

You just have to move the control stick from the neutral position a bit slower. You're just hitting it a bit too fast is all.

 

[Lus146]

You just have to move the control stick from the neutral position a bit slower. You're just hitting it a bit too fast is all.

Any tips to practice it other than repetition?

 

[pichuthedk]

if your really terrible at it do something like jump and gold the stick all the way pretty much just before you hit the ground and she will walk upon landing, the further you hold the stick forward the faster she will walk.