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SHES GOT A BOMB- need to improve before the tourney

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thebluedeath1000

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Firstmatch: I see what hes doing to ruin your chaingrab, You told a lie when you said you are doing what you need to be doing and chaingrabbing correctly, only reason he got the shine in is because you grabbed in the wrong direction at 15 seconds, look closely.

You both seemed really schizo while in close combat on the first stock and I seen way too many openings on both your parts, be more calm about your approach. Be more careful with your jumps and spacing.

You leaped off the stage for no reason..probably because you are too eager and not being calm enough as I said before. And got up right into a easily seen charged f-smash, think about what you are doing and be more defensive at times like on the ledge.

You started to full hop quite alot on your second stock, you are asking for trouble doing this with fox near you. At 1.36, he firefoxed and left himself open but you dash attacked due to distance..a few wavedashes would have meant an f-smash over that dash and took that stock. Speaking of which, I didn't see any wavedashes used for spacing.

When you reached high damage on the second stock..the fox started to toy with you quite alot and didn't go for the kill immediately and you managed to take his first stock. But immediately afterward you put yourself near the ledge, this is a very bad place to be with fox if your back is to the ledge and hes in front of you.

Learn to smash di those u-airs so you can get out from the first hit and not take the second.

You seemed at your weakest when you were at the ledge, he almost immediately took
that stock once you were at the ledge.

Haha..both of you got hyper when you got on your third stock and started fighting, you took it to the side of the stage and nearly killed both of yourselves then both of you managed to be back on stage...very lucky.

Once again, stop putting yourself at the ledge for no reason, you are at your worst there.

The up-b at 3.07..I must ask..what were you thinking? going for the reverse up-b?..you put yourself in a worse spot than you were in already.

Another up-b at 3.26..you got away safely after doing it so I really can't say anything bad about it this time and you managed to stop the combo, good use of it.

You came on strong at the end but you paniced and didn't sweetspot the last up-b and it cost you.

I think I've probably covered most of your problems, mostly panicing and not keeping your calm during close combat and your spacing not being good. You didn't use much wavedashing at all and it could have helped mix up your game. I'll watch the other video if you really need me to.




Remember edgeswipe, advice only goes so far and you'll have to learn on your own from experience.
 
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edgeswipe21

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Ya lol!! i don't know what i was thinking with those up bs prolly desperate attempt 2 catch him off guard. I think he caught me off guard bc of new play style but ne thing helps :). hey and check out the second vid i think we played smarter except for the up-b :D
 
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thebluedeath1000

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My internet is acting screwy so I can't watch the second at the moment, I'll add to this post when I can with an edit.

EDIT: Watched it

You need to be focusing on upthrowing him quickly on the opening grab or f-throwing once then regrabbing and up-throwing if he was at 0 due to how easily he can break it then, you don't want to knee him as you hold him until hes over 5%. Also, you up-tilted on the starting chaingrab way too early but at least you kept the combo going.

Once again, like in the other, you ran to the edge and dash attacked over wavedashing to it and f-smashing, which would have taken that stock..use your wavedash.

At higher damages, such as he was at 64%...start combos from the up-throw, don't try to land an f-smash, take to the air and f-air combo off of it. I'd start taking to the air from an up-throw if I grab him after 45%.

After about a minute, you rolled abit too much and seemed too timid about going on the offensive. You need to learn the right spacing so you know when you can attack him..both of you stayed at a distance for awhile, wavedashing toward him out of a dash dance would have been nice... And yes, as you said, your up-b cost you in this too.

You did decent with your chaingrabbing and punishing after you respawned and took his next stock, but shame on you for the pause.

You rolled too much for no reason after he respawned and it caused you to be predictable, thus him catching you and comboing.

Once again..stop getting up from the ledge into easily seen charged smash attacks.

You up-tilted again on your chaingrab far too early. Learn to smash di those upairs.

You didn't defend yourself when fox shined you on this stock, you seen him coming and didn't fair or anything..don't be so vunerable.

He firefoxed for god knows what reason and you didn't punish it..you should be able to capitalize on him doing things like that.

He comboed you for abit but you managed to grab..and you didn't chaingrab, you tried up-tilting again at far too low of a damage once again.

Your edgeguarding game against fox needs work..the counter was a bad idea, you should have realized the way he was coming from bottom straight up, he wouldn't have reached you at all.

At about 4.08, you threw away an easy edgeguarding attempt like you did in the first match by running offstage...then at 4.18, you backed off for no reason as he was firefoxing..you aren't making use of this situations.


You seem to be making the same mistakes so with abit of correction, your game will improve quite a bit. Learn the %s of chaingrabbing fox, be more defensive about your returns. Avoid having your back to the ledge with fox infront of you. Learn to smash di those upairs and be more thoughtful about the situation. Don't let the fox live when he makes mistakes like firefoxing on stage.

Also,now that I think of it, get different stage experience, fighting only at one or two stages limits your ability to react to the others.
 
brawlpro

brawlpro

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yeah i tried to ask him to make a vid on a diff stage but he said he sucks on other stages and didn't wanna look bad on camera(i'm hopin this changes his mind), edge ur too negative man, o and lol to his temper, he said tats why i won, cause he gets nervous, i bet he can use help from any1 of u guys on that, o bluedeath, c'mon man, i suck just as bad, JUST NEED A LIL HELP!!!
 
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thebluedeath1000

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lol I responded on the youtube videos and gave alittle more advice, message me on aim or yahoo and ask specifics, theres only so much general advice I can give.
 
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@Brawlpro: That wavedance to running kick could get you destroyed by other people. You may wann try using it only if you know the opponent will be hit, like in a juggle or something.
 
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bludhoundz

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I only watched the first 2 videos, so this is probably an incomplete analysis.

Edge: when brawl is firefoxing, you always charge up a Fsmash. Since he can see that, he's most likely gonna firefox in a different direction. Maybe you should wait for him to choose a direction, then punish after, or if you have time, try to spike him before he finishes the firefox. You're also letting yourself get juggled kind of often, maybe throw some counters or spikes in there?

Brawl: Your recoveries seem to be kind of predictable. Mix it up some more. Also, sometimes you use firefox when you don't need to (like when you're going to grab the ledge anyway). In the 2nd match, on the last stock, you would keep rushing edge, and he would just slam you with his sword. Be careful, Marth has a lot of range and priority with that sword. I suggest that you mindgame your rush (dashdance, wavedash back and forth, run at him and spot dodge, or similar things) and wait for an opening, then punish.

In general, I think you guys need to work on your recoveries and ledge guarding the most.
 
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