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sheik vs. sheik

samdaballer

Smash Ace
Joined
May 21, 2007
Messages
606
Location
SoCal
Hey guys, I was wondering if you can give me any tips on how to go against another sheik, like mindgames, combos, strategies etc.


thanks to all you guys and i always appreciate the input
 

Silver Sytos

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Dec 30, 2004
Messages
124
From Plank's guide stickied a few threads above yours:

Sheik: 50% Sheik dittos! Oh, gotta love those! Ha, well basically Sheik dittos can be broken down very simply.

Grabs: Chain grab, Sheik can chaingrab Sheik from about 0-90% if no platforms intrude. If the opponent DI's off the ledge, you can fall off and F-air them and then hop back on the ledge for an edgeguard. Though it's lame, people are going to do it to you, so get used to it. At the% which they can escape, do an aerial to get them off the edge. If you don't want to grab, do the standard Dthrow-->ftilt-->fair and just combo from there.

Edgeguarding: Sheik is one of the only characters you actually DON'T want to really go out after. In a few select situations you can hit her before she's invulnerable, but mainly just stay on the ledge and make her use her up+b onto the stage. If sheik lands back on the floor of the stage, you can grab and do a combo, or you can ledgehop an L cancelled Dair-->Fair if they're close enough for it to hit. If Sheik lands on a platform, I like to hit them with my F-air, but hit with the back part of it so it sends them backwards, right back off the stage. I'll have a video of this later, also VERY useful vs. captain falcon.

Approaches/priority: In this matchup, L cancelling and playing smart is necessary. DON'T GET GRABBED! L cancelled F-airs into a shield are good, and if their shield is low you can do a Dtilt to swipe right under their shield. Dtilt is great in Sheik Dittos. If your opponent still has plenty of shield, and doesn't come out of it, you can L cancel a F-air and then just grab them, something Sheik players don't do enough in any matchup. People expect Sheik's to just spam moves, so L cancelling against a shield into a grab is great. Sheik's Dsmash does well too, because a lot of Sheik's are spotdodge/sidestep happy. Ftilt Fair works well also, and Down airs are good if you can catch your opponent attempting to Down smash.

Di'ing Sheik's Gayity: Basically, you always want to attempt to DI away from Sheik. Her tilts away, her chaingrabs off the edge or to a platform. Make sure if you DI her chaingrab away, on the last throw when you fall off the edge, DI UP AND IN so that you survive the F-AIR when she falls off and does it. Hopefully, though, it's not FD and you can get to a platform. The best way to DI sheik's F-air is Up and slightly in, so if you're dying at 80% from it, you're probably DI'ing wrong.
 

JMOAN

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
157
Location
State College, PA
Assuming you use the North American version, chain grabs are your god. Love 'em or hate 'em, they are extremely powerful. Whoever gets the first grab has a major advantage.

If you get chain grabbed, GET OUT ASAP. Alternate your DI, try to be unpredictable with it to shake off your opponent. You may want to try to throw yourself off the ledge with the DI to force yourself out of the chain grab, but be careful, as the opponent can simply follow you off the ledge with a fair.
 
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