SH knees on Battlefield

[ShrieK1295]

Hey everyone, I was screwing around a bit on Battlefield this weekend trying to figure out why I can sometimes shorthop knee people on the lower platforms on BF but fail miserably other times. I prefer doing this after an up throw if I'm in good position because it makes it easier to punish certain techs on reaction than trying to do so with a quick double jump. After some screwing around, I found out it's quite easy to hit Sheik, Fox, and Marth with a knee, but near impossible to get Falco or Falcon. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what situation allows me to hit Falco(n) about 1/1000 times with a SH knee on the platform.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Hey everyone, I was screwing around a bit on Battlefield this weekend trying to figure out why I can sometimes shorthop knee people on the lower platforms on BF but fail miserably other times. I prefer doing this after an up throw if I'm in good position because it makes it easier to punish certain techs on reaction than trying to do so with a quick double jump. After some screwing around, I found out it's quite easy to hit Sheik, Fox, and Marth with a knee, but near impossible to get Falco or Falcon. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what situation allows me to hit Falco(n) about 1/1000 times with a SH knee on the platform.

Don't the pro's usually do a full jump dair or nair? How come they don't use this technique that often?

 

[Qual_]

You must start the knee immediately after sh even if you think you are not enough high to connect it.

Works when your opponent is lying down.

 

[ShrieK1295]

Don't the pro's usually do a full jump dair or nair? How come they don't use this technique that often?

I don't really know why. I always do it on Yoshi's unless I'm guessing that they will tech away (the curve at the bottom of the stage makes it hard to get it right there). I don't even know if it's possible to react with a full hop stomp, unless they do that dumb tech roll where they just keep rolling at the edge of the platform.

 

[Windrose]

works well on yoshi's and pokemon, not reliable on battlefield imo. definitely impossible on dreamland.

 

[Deleted member]

correct me if im wrong

isn't pokemon and battlefield the same height

eitherway you can short hop knee on battlefield i think its guaranteed if they FLOP AROUND and very probable if they tech in place too

maybe u can compare hit/hurtboxes but it definitely feels like you can knee as they are teching and entering the non-invincible part of the tech for most chars

you can definitely also short hop knee a shiek who up-b's onto the plat, very useful if you grab edge and force them onto plat and don't want to up-air

 

[Windrose]

hmmm....i didn't know that, the more u know eh. i don't think i see falcon players do that often on battlefield , but i've never kept an eye out for it on that stage. mainly just did short hop upairs, full hop nairs/stomps or some sort of double jump mixup.

I thought pokemon and yoshi's were the same height but I dunno the technical details.

I know you can sh stomp from below the platform and still hit people on the platforms on yoshi's and pokemon. I don't know if you can do that on battlefield.

 

[Deleted member]

i think last hit in my horrid set vs tope at manifest i finish off the set with a SH knee on battlefield when he up-b's onto a side plat

 

[Violence]

correct me if im wrong

isn't pokemon and battlefield the same height

Pokemon and Yoshi's is about the same height, Battlefield is a little higher. Can't short hop missile onto a BF platform.

 

[Juggleguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOyVSvXINSw#t=2h27m27s

 

[Walt]

Pokemon and Yoshi's is about the same height, Battlefield is a little higher. Can't short hop missile onto a BF platform.

Sheik also can't shorthop onto the BF plats.

I have stopped going for SH knee on the BF plats because I never get it. I can do the fall-through knee on BF plats though, that is super useful.