• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Sexism in the US elections?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Sandy

Smash Champion
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Messages
2,242
Location
North Georgia
Well, as most of us know, Obama is winning the US elections against Clinton by a considerable amount.

This is pretty much the way it is:

If you don't vote for Hillary, you are a sexist.

If you don't vote for Obama, you are a racist.

That is the way far too many people see it.

Is sexism involved in people choosing Obama over Clinton?
 

Eor

Banned via Warnings
BRoomer
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Messages
9,963
Location
Bed
I do believe there is slight sexism in the case of Hillary Clinton. There have been studies where a male and female actor have been given the same lines and ways to deliver them to a group of employees, who then ranked who would be the most inspirational. Despite them being the same, the males where almost always ranked higher as being someone "respectable" and who they could learn off of, while the women where generally considered "Cold" and bossy, which are the same things many people say about Mrs. Clinton. Honestly, there is not much about Hillary that should bring about how much hatred she does, when she is not very different from any other major democrat.
 

DoH

meleeitonme.tumblr.com
Joined
Jul 1, 2004
Messages
7,618
Location
Washington, DC
Leading Hillary by 159 delegates is not a considerable margin.

I'm voting for Barack because he wants to repeal the entirety of DOMA instead of just section 3, and Hillary supports restrictions on certain video games for being "too violent." Plus the idea of just 2 families running our country since 1988 really scares me a bit.
 

Digital Watches

Smash Ace
Joined
Nov 12, 2006
Messages
778
Location
The People's Republic of Portland
Bah. It's not sexism to prefer a candidate with policies I favor more. Frankly, I'd vote for Obama because of the reasons DoH listed, as well as a more aggressive withdrawal plan for troops in Iraq, and a lot of FDR-like reform policies. That, and he's the only candidate I know of that has taken a stance on Net Neutrality.

Saying that not voting for Hilary is sexist is like saying that not supporting the ridiculous things Israel's doing is anti-semitic.
 

solesoul

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
125
Location
North Carolina
I don't think that there is as much sexism against Hillary than some would like to think. Frankly, l think people aren't following her as much as they are the other candidates for several reasons. They might not like her personally, they may disagree with her stances on some policies, they may not agree with her campaign tactics, they even might not like her husband.

I'm sure that there are people who aren't voting for her simply because she's a woman (including some women), but I think that the majority of non-Hillary supporters are against her for other reasons.
 

Crimson King

I am become death
BRoomer
Joined
Jan 14, 2002
Messages
28,982
I'm voting for neither because I disagree with their stances on most things.

Also, rumors are going around that Condoleeza Rice is being pushed as McCain's running mate.
 

solesoul

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
125
Location
North Carolina
Also, rumors are going around that Condoleeza Rice is being pushed as McCain's running mate.
Wow, I haven't heard that. Someone should make a topic about that, because I would love to discuss how that would effect his "vote-ability", even though I don't plan to vote for him.

On topic, I hate the fact that so many people (Hillary included) are citing her femininity as the reason that she is not in the lead. It completely ignores any valid arguments that you could have against her.

"I'm going to vote for Wally McWallenstien instead of Hillary. I don't agree with many of the policies held by her."
"Oh, well then you must be a misogynist and you have issues with your mother."
Does that make sense at all?
 

Archaic

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Dec 30, 2006
Messages
126
Location
Kennesaw, GA
What were your thoughts on Clinton's recent attacks on Obama (mostly attacking Obama's tactics, not necessarily his propositions or ideas)?

Here's a video when Clinton REALLY let the boiling pot go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BGP-EJQPd8
I think theyre both being a bit childish, but it really aggrivates me that Hillary will launch these kind of invectives against other candidates, but when she gets "visibly emotional" after a simple question, she wins a primary! No way that would happen if Obama choked-up after one of her onslaughts.

More on topic there is definitely sexism in this upcoming election., but I believe theres more than we think. I'm sure you all have noticed, but people call Barack Obama Obama, John McCain McCain, and Hillary Clinton what? Hillary. I guess it could just be to clarify Hillary from Bill, but it seems more disrespectful and sexist to me. What do you guys think?
 

Batchfile

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Feb 15, 2008
Messages
106
Location
North Carolina, Fayetteville
It's like bumping an old topic. Everytime somebody talks about these things, people are refreshed the reasons why these biased opinions exist. It's a complex topic of why these things exist. Being sexist is like being general.

Although not all women are soft hearted. Many ARE soft hearted. But I think being sexist has to clarify as thinking all women are some way. And that is not true, though, it's a default opinion that she IS.


People need to vote for the person who fits the job the most and proves their case. And ignore the idiots who believe that your sexist, or racist, for not voting for the other person.
 

solesoul

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
125
Location
North Carolina
More on topic there is definitely sexism in this upcoming election., but I believe theres more than we think. I'm sure you all have noticed, but people call Barack Obama Obama, John McCain McCain, and Hillary Clinton what? Hillary. I guess it could just be to clarify Hillary from Bill, but it seems more disrespectful and sexist to me. What do you guys think?
You're asking why they call everyone else by their last name except Hillary, but you just said the answer yourself. Its actually a decision not just made by the news media, but by Hillary herself. She's trying to simultaneously run off of her last name while distancing herself from it. She knows that just putting Clinton there will ward away many potential conservatives (which is silly both on her part and any conservative who wouldn't vote for her because of her last name), and plus she doesn't want people to start thinking that she and Bill would both be running the country if she won.

And plus, it just makes it easier to separate the two when one of them is called Hillary and the other is called Bill. Simple, really.
 

WuTangDude

Smash Ace
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
526
Location
Tucson, Arizona
There's always gonna be some amount of sexism and racism in this democratic nomination.

Both stem from ignorance, something that will never be truely eliminated from the world. There's gonna be people who don't know the first thing about Obama or Clinton's political stances, but won't vote for them because, y'know ,"Obama's black, Clinton's female, Obama's got big ears, Clinton's got a weird hairline, etc.". What is in the wiats to be shown is that how far and wide that ignorance is within the democratic party, and the U.S. public after that.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom