Seperate Zelda and Sheik?

[FoxMaster77]

Most people only use Sheik anyway. So why not make them seperate characters? I would love to see them seperated. This way we wont have to use the transformation to be Sheik.

Discuss.

 

[Icarus Descent]

That would be a very nice,it would be better not to have to pick zelda to play as sheik

 

[Circus]

Yes, please. Though for different reasons from what you mentioned. Regardless, this question has been tackled in other threads.

 

[Space_Pirate_Fox_McCloud]

I don't like that idea simply because the ability to transform between the two on the fly is what makes them an interesting fighter. It would be like seperating the Ice Climbers and making them each their own character, or taking away Kirby's ability to copy his opponent's powers, their transformation is what sets them apart from any other fighter. Samus and Zero Suit Samus have a similar relationship, but Zero Suit Samus is only accessable through Samus's Final Smash. In other words, there's no real conscience changing between the two, either you're stuck as one or the other. As for Pokemon Trainer, the ability to change is conscience, but the strategy is different. With PT, the switching is based upon using each Pokemon evenly, as using one for too long or changing too often will result in hindering the Pokemon. This isn't as free for switching to the right character as Zelda/Shiek is, to which that really is how they're meant to use.

 

[vesperview]

Sheik probably won't return.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Sheik probably won't return.

Based on what? Shiek has a good chance of returning...


Shiek and Zelda as seperate isn't going to happen though

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Not bad. I don't think their transformation thing will go, but I would love to see the ability to choose in between the two, even if they're on the same icon. Hopefully the same will apply with Samus and Zero Suit Samus.

 

[Mini Mic]

Sheik probably won't return.

There is no reason for her not to return

 

[vesperview]

There is no reason for her not to return

Only the fact that Zelda's update didn't include her and unless she's on her own it's pretty much over for Sheik.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Only the fact that Zelda's update didn't include her and unless she's on her own it's pretty much over for Sheik.

Samus' updade didn't include Zero Suit Samus until her final smash was reveiled...

...that proves nothing.

 

[vesperview]

Samus' updade didn't include Zero Suit Samus until her final smash was reveiled...

...that proves nothing.

ZSamus was confirmed since the trailer so you fail!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

ZSamus was confirmed since the trailer so you fail!

I don't fail, I was using your own example.

 

[vesperview]

I don't fail, I was using your own example.

Is not the same, why is it the same?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Is not the same, why is it the same?

Why the hell would Zelda's update have to have Shiek for Shiek to be confirmed...

None of Zelda's moves have been releashed yet...and the ones that have are the same as the ones in Melee...

Not to mention that confirmed true article that Shiek's TP stype design was submitted for Brawl.

You said that since Shiek wasn't in Zelda's update means no Shiek...

But since Samus' mentioned nothing about Zero suit, why would Zelda have to mention Shiek?

 

[vesperview]

Why the hell would Zelda's update have to have Shiek for Shiek to be confirmed...

None of Zelda's moves have been releashed yet...and the ones that have are the same as the ones in Melee...

Not to mention that confirmed true article that Shiek's TP stype design was submitted for Brawl.

You said that since Shiek wasn't in Zelda's update means no Shiek...

But since Samus' mentioned nothing about Zero suit, why would Zelda have to mention Shiek?

Because Zelda and Sheik are two in one, why would he release Zelda alone and not Sheik? I give you the moves but that's it, and it doesn't have anything to do with samus so stop trying to back your arguments with that, plus Zero Suit Samus and Samus both had their respective profiles when the dojo opened, so if he was to confirm sheik he would've done it the same day he confirmed zelda.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Because Zelda and Sheik are two in one, why would he release Zelda alone and not Sheik? I give you the moves but that's it, and it doesn't have anything to do with samus so stop trying to back your arguments with that, plus Zero Suit Samus and Samus both had their respective profiles when the dojo opened, so if he was to confirm sheik he would've done it the same day he confirmed zelda.

Why...

Zelda and Shiek always have different profiles...

They did on the Melee one too

Zero Suit Samus wasn't reveiled until a while after Samus (On the new Brawl site)

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Because Zelda and Sheik are two in one, why would he release Zelda alone and not Sheik? I give you the moves but that's it, and it doesn't have anything to do with samus so stop trying to back your arguments with that, plus Zero Suit Samus and Samus both had their respective profiles when the dojo opened, so if he was to confirm sheik he would've done it the same day he confirmed zelda.

Wrong.

He updated Zamus at a different time than Samus. There is no reason why Zelda would be different. We haven't even seen her moves yet.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Sakurai is just waiting because he doesn't want to spoil Sheik's new and cool TP-esque design.

 

[Lumancer]

Ya know, I must say that it's strange how long we've gone since Zelda was confirmed without even a peep about Sheik. Either Sheik is getting the boot or a MAJOR overhaul.

 

[vesperview]

Ya know, I must say that it's strange how long we've gone since Zelda was confirmed without even a peep about Sheik. Either Sheik is getting the boot or a MAJOR overhaul.

That's what I'm saying.

@ Pluvia:

Fine I made a mistake, but it isn't samus who were talking about here... we all knew about zero suit samus anyway.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That's what I'm saying.

If that's what your trying to say, you sure said it like you had no idea what you were talking about

 

[Shuma]

Sheik is horrible, Nerf NERF! NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

 

[vesperview]

If that's what your trying to say, you sure said it like you had no idea what you were talking about

Is what I said in my first post, if Sheik hasn't been shown it probably means it is not returning or it will come back alone, can't you read?

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Is what I said in my first post, if Sheik hasn't been shown it probably means it is not returning, I thought you could read?

Ness has yet to be shown, so it must mean he's not returning!

 

[vesperview]

Ness has yet to be shown, so it must mean he's not returning!

Or that he is and what does it have to do with anything troll?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Is what I said in my first post, if Sheik hasn't been shown it probably means it is not returning or it will come back alone, can't you read?

...and that's based on what...

A lot of characters haven't been shown yet...


...Is Captain Falcon not returning?

 

[vesperview]

...and that's based on what...

A lot of characters haven't been shown yet...


...Is Captain Falcon not returning?

Not even you know that.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Or that he is and what does it have to do with anything troll?

Too bad he isn't confirmed and you're just lying to yourself.

 

[vesperview]

Too bad he isn't confirmed and you're just lying to yourself.

Don't you have Ness in your avatar, who are you to talk?

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Don't you have Ness in your avatar, who are you to talk?

He's Mother related, so it's good enough for me.

I'll replace him when we get some Lucas avatars.

 

[vesperview]

He's Mother related, so it's good enough for me.

I'll replace him when we get some Lucas avatars.

I can see what you're trying to do, believe me no one cares if you are gonna main Lucas or think that Ness won't return so shove it. *Leaves thread and will not return*

 

[shadenexus18]

Sheik is the only ninja on Smash Bros. No way can Sakurai toss such a kool character even though she has lost her significance. Gee, thanks alot you fools who made Twilight Princess! Jerks!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I personally don't think Shiek needs to be nerfed...

...But I guess to enable the whole need to transform thing...

I guess her knocking power can be reduced...

 

[sheikattack]

I would like Sheik to return, but sadly it won't happen because Nintendo is moving past OoT.