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Road to Improvement

SaiXander

Smash Apprentice
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Augusta/Charleston, South Carolina, basically.
Playing around with other characters can be amusing from time to time.

I've recently developed an outright hatred for Luigi, for instance. He's one slippery mofo with weird hitboxes and is ultimately an exercise in patience, even playing against bots.
 

Varist

Smash Lord
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Austin
For some reason I really enjoyed watching these matches. I think because Lil T's not pro-level and he doesn't really think about covering options and paying attention to zoning, it makes his Falcon a lot more unorthodox and a lot more aggressive. It's cool to watch, it appeals to me in almost the same way watching Mango appeals to me. Also you seem like an innately good combo-er, or maybe that's just because Dark isn't switching up his DI lol.

Something else more topical about your Falcon while I'm posting: I used to not like to nair or up-air because they just felt weak to me. Like, it felt unsatisfying when they hit. Ramming people with a knee or smacking them with a back-air/stomp felt more fun so I opted for them, but when I practiced zoning and really long 0-death combos I realized how necessary juggling N-airs and U-airs was and it felt a lot more satisfying to pull them off properly. Short hop n-airs and drive-by n-airs are now one of the more valuable things I do when playing against someone smart enough to space me.
 

MALVM MALVM

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May 29, 2011
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Lynchburg and/or Vienna VA
Look at your own stuff. Look at what move you're doing, figure out why you doing what you're doing, then look at all of your other options at the time. Do stuff you don't normally do so you either 1) find out it's stupid and stop doing it, or 2) find out that it's a good idea and use it when that instance comes up again. Turning the recorder off so we don't see some of the more embarrasing stuff may put you more at ease for experementation.
 

lil T

Smash Journeyman
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Oct 23, 2010
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Freeport IL
I'll forgive you for now, MsMasta!

Anyway, it's Wednesday -- when's that next vid comin' up? I'm half expecting some Doc V Falcon matches this time...
Thing came up...so Couldent really play :/

Look at your own stuff. Look at what move you're doing, figure out why you doing what you're doing, then look at all of your other options at the time. Do stuff you don't normally do so you either 1) find out it's stupid and stop doing it, or 2) find out that it's a good idea and use it when that instance comes up again. Turning the recorder off so we don't see some of the more embarrasing stuff may put you more at ease for experementation.
Um Well i should Thank you for Trying to help so "Thanks :D
However one of the main point of us recording is so we can look back and see "whats up"
and we play/ Practice alot off screen (well when i get the time that is)
 

lil T

Smash Journeyman
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Freeport IL
OK RTI should be up tomorrow... i dont have time to render and stuff lol
and just to say

lilT(C.falcon, Marth, younglink) vs Dark(Link, Dr.mario, fox)
not in that order but thats the people we play....
anyways yeah should be up tomorrow
 

lil T

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Road To Improvement : Episode 4 | lil T(:marthmelee:|:falconmelee:|:younglinkmelee:) Vs Dark(:linkmelee:|:drmario:|:foxmelee:)

ITS HERE

Now This Video is 50 min long OMFG 50 MIN THAT SO F***ING LONG IM NOT GOING TO WATCH THAT!!!
clam down... and watch the first 2 min of the video, i talk about the timeline i made in the description and the reason why i made it
I made it much easier to watch the fights you wanna watch so you don't have to skip through an hour of gameply, so like if you wanna only see my Captain Falcon fights go to the timeline and go to the fights or if you wanna see Dark Fox
go to the timeline, simple no? I am looking Forward to the Tips HOWEVER i made alot of mistakes in this video that im aware of and i have been practicing and fixing some of my errors that I made.
Such as a little less grabs more nairs and just doing stupid S**t I shouldn't be doing
I also look would like if y'all also watch the Younglink fights as well..i mean..why not there only 3 of em lol
 

Bing

Smash Master
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Nov 8, 2010
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St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada
Okay so a few things, Lil T, you're making good progress, I didnt notice too much improvement between the last two videos. Dark, Im going to start mainly focusing on helping you improve because you need to catch up to Lil T and obviously need more work. We'll get you there though.

With that being said... 1. Less get-up attacks, thats pretty straight forward, If they shield or side step the attack, you're just going to get hit again or even combo'd.
2. I noticed less Falcon punches.. good.\
3. You can combo really well with Marth, but your Falcon needs some fox work(thats based off the one match)
4. Young Link... lol ftw.

Dark. Im actually noticing a difference, for starters, you're trying to wavedash. its a good start.
Another huge thing I noticed which I've been saying since video one, and you've finally started doing it. DONT STAND STILL WHILE THROWING PROJECTILES.... more bombs are needed imo.
I think you should maybe consider dropping Doc, Or put a bit more work into it, Doc's a fun character. I noticed you dont use your fair for the ko... USE IT, ITS ****ING ****. Here a simple combo that works well. D-throw to Up-Smash, now this next step depends on there height, Its you either you u-tilt to d-throw again or you u-air and go from there(bair's and uairs, maybe nair, never dair)
So what you end up with is; D-throw,Upsmash, uair - uair - bair/nair.
Or D-throw, UpSmash, u-tilt, Up Smash, then air combo. It works well, for both Mario and Doc.
Last two things about Doc, 1. DONT DOWN TILT THEIR RECOVERY, especially Falcon, with his recovery, you could simply Smash him or Fair. Both are considerably more effective. 2. Doc's Tornado(Down-b) is not an attack lmao. Use it a lot less, it can be a good comboing tool, only when used properly.
Now like all of your characters, you really need to work on comboing, Your fox is probably your 2nd best, I would put it under Link because you seem to Like Link the best. Fox needs some combo work, and some tech skill work, but he's a hard character to get really good with, but **** when you do. So keep at it.
 

lil T

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Young Link Ftw :D

Yeah yeah i know same old same old with My. C.Falcon
less fair more nairs/dairs
i Been working on a little different Approach tho youll see on wed
 

lil T

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Due to Capture card problems I havent been able to rec RTI
we still play, and trying to get even better but just cant rec atm so i dont think there be any videos this week and the begining of next wanna say next weds Thanks for all the tips all gave and if you havent saw the video vido check it out
 

rjgbadger

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As Falcon, there are A LOT of times when you daired and should've followed with a knee(15:56, 16:30, Work on your approach too. You want to hit with both nair hits, you tend to fastfall and only go for one hit.

idk much about Marf.

Your YL could use more projectile spacing (camping). Always be moving when you get a bomb. i saw a couple standing ones. You did better against Fox when you forced him to approach, and got wrecked a few times while approaching. It's hard for YL to not play a little gay.

Dark still gets really predictable with the whole jumping instead of teching thing.

As Doc, when he saw you at high percents he seemed to only go for a kill move instead of going for moves that could lead to the fair/fsmash iirc he didn't really go for a lot of fsmash at all. Using the tornado at the begining of your recovery(mash the **** outta B) will give you some vertical distance.

As Link, imo, he uses too many arrows. He got pretty predictable with his boomerang arrow tech. Abuse nair more, its one of his best aerials, along with fair. Learn to better utilize the hookshot recovery(learn where you need to be to sweetspot the jump) and sweetspot the up-B. Also, Bomb recovery.

I think you both need to work on teching, really improves your game. Also, a lot of missed l-cancels, especially when actually hitting the opponent. You both are improving much faster than i did though, i wish i did something along the lines of your vids.
 
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