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Kaleo42

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=_O GAH! W4M is right! Well, I'm replacing Toxicroak and Ampharos and seeing as I have no fire moves, maybe I could setup a Rain Dance-

Bronzong/Da'Drizzler @Damp Rock
Impish Nature
EVs:124def/100spdef/252hp/28attk
Levitate

Rain Dance
Reflect
Gyro Ball
Explosion

and...

Clefable/Clef.Kirby @Wise Glasses/Leftovers
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/200hp/52def/4spdef
Magic Guard

Thunder
Ice Beam
Water Pulse
Softboiled

Strategy: If Drifblim goes down, I setup a Rain Dance and switch to Clefable, a.k.a Blissey on roids. THAT, or, I can pass some CMs and Stockpiles to Zong, setup Rain Dance and Gyro Ball , once its HP gets low enough, it'll explode. I can also setup a Reflect to give to Clefable thus making him a tank. I'll give Drifblim Unburben, Hypnosis > Shadow Ball and get rid of the Salac Berry, once I can put my opponent to sleep, Blimmy can BP easier.
well i see no definate problem with your previous set (you just would have to avoid any mistakes), but i must say it looks much better now
 

ss118

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Clefable @ Leftovers
240 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 16 Spd
Magic Guard: Modest
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Cosmic Power
Softbiled

For if you dont give a **** what the opponent thinks about you
 

Kaleo42

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i just noticed a problem on both clefables, neither would survive against my brick break slaking or an well used fightning attack, basicly they have poor type coverage if you ask me (especially with what they are capable of).
 

Shiri

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:yoshi: Cosmic Power is hot--I don't know why people don't use it outside of singles.

Also, Lopunny with HP EVs survives a STAB Meteor Mash from max attack Metagross with plenty of HP to spare, so I'm thinking with some minor EV adjustment, it would be able to take a DD Waterfall from Gyarados maybe. Not terribly sure, but it should be possible. Time to do some math, I'll be right back. ^_^

Okay, standard Smogondos with 319 attack (31 attack IV, adamant, 16 EVs) and a Dragon Dance (taking that to 478 attack) does max 239 damage. This leaves neutral nature, 0 HP EV/IV, 0 defense EV/31 defense IV Lopunny with 1 HP left if I did my math right. Sweet deal. ^_^ LOL
 

Wii4Mii 99

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:yoshi: Cosmic Power is hot--I don't know why people don't use it outside of singles.

Also, Lopunny with HP EVs survives a STAB Meteor Mash from max attack Metagross with plenty of HP to spare, so I'm thinking with some minor EV adjustment, it would be able to take a DD Waterfall from Gyarados maybe. Not terribly sure, but it should be possible. Time to do some math, I'll be right back. ^_^

Okay, standard Smogondos with 319 attack (31 attack IV, adamant, 16 EVs) and a Dragon Dance (taking that to 478 attack) does max 239 damage. This leaves neutral nature, 0 HP EV/IV, 0 defense EV/31 defense IV Lopunny with 1 HP left if I did my math right. Sweet deal. ^_^ LOL
I must be doing something wrong, because according to MetalKid's damage caculator, that will do 50.00% - 58.75%.

If what Shiri said was true, then... Quick! Delete it before Celebi sees it! Wii don't want Celebi having another reason to love Lopunny, beyond the one reason wii all know and fear. O_O

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Shiri

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:yoshi: LOL!

P.S. - It sounds like you're using max stats for the Lopunny--I was using minimums except for the 31 defense IV.

I'll try again later and see if I get something different.
 

mood4food77

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he should still remove azumarill from his team, so it can be UU only

i mean, azumarill is very good and all, but it's too powerful for UU sadly, so therefore, ruining this team which looks like it cannot compete with OU at all (besides azumarill of course)

needs a UU wall
 

9Kplus1

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0_0... okay, this team isn't for UU Battles, it CAN compete with OU Teams, my wall is Bronzong.

My NEW Lopunny's IVs are almost perfect, there's a 0 in spattk, and a 30 in spdef, I need that 309 speed to outrun a few pokes... and Zook, Toxicroak hasn't the sweeper ability I want.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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OK...

Gyarados
Adamant
16 Attack EVs
31 Attack IVs
1 Dragon Dance
Waterfall

Lopunny
Adamant
4 HP EVs and 0 Defense EVs
31 HP and Defense IVs

That Lopunny will take 75.00% - 87.87%.

D@mn! X_X


i just noticed a problem on both clefables, neither would survive against my brick break slaking or an well used fightning attack, basicly they have poor type coverage if you ask me (especially with what they are capable of).
Well, of course they won't survive a SE Brick Break coming off Slaking's massive Attack...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Wii4Mii 99

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What about the 10 char minimum?

Luckily...

Deoxys-A
Choice Band
Adamant
252 Attack EVs
31 Attack IVs
+6 Attack boost
Superpower

Lopunny
Adamant
4 HP EVs / 0 Def EVs
31 HP and Def IVs

Will take 624.26% - 734.56%. *...*

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

9Kplus1

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What about the 10 char minimum?

Luckily...

Deoxys-A
Choice Band
Adamant
252 Attack EVs
31 Attack IVs
+6 Attack boost
Superpower

Lopunny
Adamant
4 HP EVs / 0 Def EVs
31 HP and Def IVs

Will take 624.26% - 734.56%. *...*

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
0_. ummm... ooookay.... can we get back to my other pokes? ¥_¥
 

Kaleo42

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Well, of course they won't survive a SE Brick Break coming off Slaking's massive Attack...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
not much will, but thats not my piont, they won't suvive against any well used STAB fighting attack or powerful atk nonSTAB attack (if that last part made any sense:confused:)
 

MysticKenji

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:yoshi: What do you mean, "Heh"?
Main Entry: heh
Part of Speech: interj
Definition: a half laugh offered as a non-negative response or to express surprise
Usage: informal

What about the 10 char minimum?

Luckily...

Deoxys-A
Choice Band
Adamant
252 Attack EVs
31 Attack IVs
+6 Attack boost
Superpower

Lopunny
Adamant
4 HP EVs / 0 Def EVs
31 HP and Def IVs

Will take 624.26% - 734.56%. *...*

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
So Lopunny is Uber-weak? I don't think we needed you to tell us this.
 
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yeah, i use timid/adamant deoxys, and it pretty much kills anything with a good attack
you should try
deoxys attack
modest
255 spattck evs
+6levels
choicespecs
focus blast
critical hit
 

Kaleo42

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okay people, enough with the deoxys chatter; it's of topic and i've heard enough about that freak for one life time.

i do have one though, it pwns all:p
 

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K, everything's updated-




Drifblim/Shippo @---
Jolly Nature
EVs:252hp/252spd/4spattk
Ability: Unburden

Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Hypnosis
Stockpile

Okay, here's how this works, Drifblim has more speed to use with Unburden, Hypnosis first turn, CMs and Stockpiles the next turn, it my opponent wakes up, I'll switch to Bronzong.



Lopunny/Lopilily @Choice Band/Muscle Band (For the item clause)
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Cute Charm

T-Punch
I-Punch
Return
Sky Uppercut

I finally changed her moveset to something that can pwn a bit, I can get variety with the T-I Punch combo which is the Physical BoltBeam btw, Sky Uppercut because of the subtracted Recoil it takes, Return for that happy 150 base power. ^_^ see, I'm not all lecherous, I never even mentioned I much I wanna- <_< er, no one heard that...



Azumaril/Miyona @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Return
Brick Break

My second little bunny, she pwns, nuff said, I replaced Double Edge with Return to conserve her HP for taking hits, I'd rather 3-4 KO a G-Dos rather that 2KO one and take out Azumi aswell. Aqua Tail gets the job done and can kick the **** out of that OU SkarmBliss.



Granbull/Koga @Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/200spd/56spattk
Intimidate

EQ
Close Combat
Overheat
T-Fang

My puppy, he's the runt of the litter, but he can pwn you. I threw CC in there to make Weaviles cry and Overheat is for Skarmory, T-Fang for G-Dos.



Bronzong/Kenpachi @Damp Rock
Impish Nature
EVs:252hp/124def/100spdef/31attk
Ability: Levitate

Explosion
Gyro Ball
Relfect
Rain Dance

Here's where my team gets a little bit of variety, Bronzong can Wall with no problem, if things don't look good for Zong, I'll use Rain Dance and setup for my next poke, Clefable.



Clefable/Lily @Wise Glasses/Leftovers
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252hp/4spd
Ability: Magic Coat

Seismic Toss/Psychic
Water Pulse
Thunder
Softboiled

^_^ Well, here's my new Tank, and I love her, I can IV Breed on Fire Red, tutor her Seismic Toss and migrate her, it's more of an Eh move, but it has no restistances only an immunity to ghost types. With Thunder and Water Pulse, I can cover a few types, if I use Psychic, I can cover all types. Softboiled for more frustration.
 

Kaleo42

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Now this is a sweet team, only potential problem could be hail or sandstorm based teams, besides that it will probably pwn in staightforeward battles.

i do hav one problem though, i think you should seek psychiatric help for your fetish:ohwell:
 

ss118

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Drifblim- I suggest giving it a Lum Berry- that way it an switch into staus moves and get the 2x speed boost. I also suggest replacing Calm Mind: Charge Beam, for example, so u can BP the Sp. Atk boost.
Lopunny- That would be good if u weren't focusing on its non- existant atack >.> Try giving I Klutz and Switcheroo, while taking out Ice Punch, most likely. Or, hell, just FRIGGN REPLACE IT!
You won't listen to me about Azumarill.....
Granbull- There are so many people who would use that CS better: use his ability to ur advantage with a defensive sleep talker, so u can talk status.
Ill edit more later, but I wanna say that the clefable shouldn't be so dependant on Bronzong.
 

Kaddy

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I didn't think that Unburden worked if you started without an item. I thought the item had to be removed in some way.
 

9Kplus1

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Now this is a sweet team, only potential problem could be hail or sandstorm based teams, besides that it will probably pwn in staightforeward battles.

i do hav one problem though, i think you should seek psychiatric help for your fetish:ohwell:
<_<

Drifblim- I suggest giving it a Lum Berry-that way it an switch into staus moves and get the 2x speed boost. I also suggest replacing Calm Mind: Charge Beam, for example, so u can BP the Sp. Atk boost.
Lopunny- That would be good if u weren't focusing on its non- existant atack >.> Try giving I Klutz and Switcheroo, while taking out Ice Punch, most likely. Or, hell, just FRIGGN REPLACE IT!
You won't listen to me about Azumarill.....
Granbull- There are so many people who would use that CS better: use his ability to ur advantage with a defensive sleep talker, so u can talk status.
Ill edit more later, but I wanna say that the clefable shouldn't be so dependant on Bronzong.
Switcheroopunny isn't much of a good thing, personally, I hate it. And I'm not replacing my Punny.
Drifblim'll get Charge Beam > CM. And a Liechi Berry.
I hate your EV Spread on Azumaril and therefore, I'm not changing it.
Clefable isn't dependant on Bronzong.
I need an Intimidator for my team, I might give Granbull something else, who knows? Sleeptalk is too unreliable, a random move when I need a certian move, c'mon. I might give Granbull Heal Bell > EQ since I can cover most types with CC, Overheat and T-Fang.
I didn't think that Unburden worked if you started without an item. I thought the item had to be removed in some way.
It works... or not...
 

Wii4Mii 99

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It's good to see less Choice Pokemon.

Well, guess I want to have a second team...

Well here it goes, today, I'm gonna see how this team'll work before I try to battle with it,



Drifblim/Shippo @Liechi/Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs:252hp/252spd/4spdef
Ability: Unburden

Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Hypnosis
Stockpile

Okay, here's how this works, Drifblim has more speed to use with Unburden, Hypnosis first turn, CMs and Stockpiles the next turn, it my opponent wakes up, I'll switch to Bronzong.

Good.



Lopunny/Lopilily @Choice Band/Muscle Band (For the item clause)
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Cute Charm

T-Punch
I-Punch
Return
Sky Uppercut

I finally changed her moveset to something that can pwn a bit, I can get variety with the T-I Punch combo which is the Physical BoltBeam btw, Sky Uppercut because of the subtracted Recoil it takes, Return for that happy 150 base power. ^_^ see, I'm not all lecherous, I never even mentioned I much I wanna- <_< er, no one heard that... Return has a 152 Base Power at its maximum.

Return has a max BP of 153.



Azumaril/Miyona @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Return
Brick Break

My second little bunny, she pwns, nuff said, I replaced Double Edge with Return to conserve her HP for taking hits, I'd rather 3-4 KO a G-Dos rather that 2KO one and take out Azumi aswell. Aqua Tail gets the job done and can kick the **** out of that OU SkarmBliss. Brick Break for anything that resists.

Good.



Granbull/Koga @Chople/Lum Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/200spd/56spattk
Intimidate

Heal Bell
Close Combat
Overheat
T-Fang

My puppy, he's the runt of the litter, but he can pwn you. I threw CC in there to make Weaviles cry and Overheat is for Skarmory, T-Fang for G-Dos. Heal Bell wasn't thrown in for no reason, here's how it works-

There's a 90% chance someone will try to use W-O-W on Koga, thus making him useless, the rest of my team'll get some type of status ailment, I'll switch to Koga and Heal Bell, no one'll expect it, there's also a chance my oppoent might use Sucker Punch, because almost no one thinks Granbull suppots.

Looks good.



Bronzong/Kenpachi @Damp Rock
Impish Nature
EVs:252hp/124def/100spdef/31attk
Ability: Levitate

Explosion
Gyro Ball
Relfect
Rain Dance

Here's where my team gets a little bit of variety, Bronzong can Wall with no problem, if things don't look good for Zong, I'll use Rain Dance and setup for my next poke, Clefable. It can setup a Reflect to go alongside the multiple CMs I'll be doing, once its HP gets too low, I'll use Rain Dance it it wasn't setup yet, and use Explosion to kick some ***.

Interesting...



Clefable/Lily @Wise Glasses/Leftovers
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252hp/4spd
Ability: Magic Guard

Seismic Toss/Psychic
Water Pulse
Thunderbolt
Softboiled

^_^ Well, here's my new Tank, and I love her, I can IV Breed on Fire Red, tutor her Seismic Toss and migrate her, it's more of an Eh move, but it has no restistances only an immunity to ghost types. With Thunderbolt and Water Pulse, I can cover a few types, if I use Psychic, I can cover all types. Softboiled for more frustration. Yeah, it's a bit reliant on Bronzong, and if it stops Raining, Thunder'll be useless, that's why I'm giving her T-Bolt.

Looks good. When I was facing Articanus, he used a Clefable with:

Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Cosmic Power
Softboiled

Once it gets to the stat-upping, it can be a b**** to take down.


I've compiled a list of threats that can be covered by my team-

Weavile- Bronzong,Azumaril
Heatran- Azumaril,Lopunny,Granbull
Metagross- Setup with Bronzong, then, Azumaril
Dusknoir- Clefable, Bronzong
Heracross- Bronzong
T-Tar- Granbull,Lopunny
G-Dos- Lopunny,Granbull,Clefable
G-Chomp- Lopunny, Bronzong
A-Kazam- Bronzong
D-Nite- Lopunny
Ninjask-Azuamaril
Hippodwon-Clefable,Bronzong
Froslass- Azumaril, Bronzong
Porygon-Z- Bronzong (Explosion)
Skarmory-Granbull,Clefable,Azumaril
Blissey- Lopunny, Granbull,Bronzong,Azunmaril
Gardevoir(*cires*)-Lopunny,Clefable
Machamp- Bronzong
Leafeon- Clefable
Jumpluff- Granbull
Gengar- Azumaril, Clefable
Slaking-Bronzong,Lopunny,Azumaril

If there are anymore, tell me.

*Spare Pokes*
These pokes will be switched in and out randomly with my team to prevent people from predicting my lineup.



Infenape/Gokazaru @Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp

Blaze Kick
EQ
Close Combat
T-Punch

Flare Blitz or Fire Punch would work bewtter than Blaze Kick, IMO.



Luxray/UnitZ @Shuca Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp

Charge
Spark
Ice Fang
Fire Fang

I don't know about Charge...



Bastiodon/Ramparidon @Chople Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/252def/4spdef

Ice Beam
Metal Burst
HP Electric
Protect

Metal Burst works better with Focus Sash.

Celebi,
Out!
OK, assuming your Pokemon arn't Salac passed, Azumarill is the only thing that can stop Infernape from rampaging through your team. Like Gyarados with one Dragon Dance, Adamant Infernape can outspeed all your Pokemon. Drifblim dies to Stone Edge or ThunderPunch. Lopunny, Granbull, and Clefable hate Close Combat. Bronzong dies to the feiryness of Flare Blitz.

Gyarados still does a number to your team, but thanks to Intimidate and the fact that it's not Choiced, Granbull can take care of it.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

9Kplus1

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It's good to see less Choice Pokemon.



OK, assuming your Pokemon arn't Salac passed, Azumarill is the only thing that can stop Infernape from rampaging through your team. Like Gyarados with one Dragon Dance, Adamant Infernape can outspeed all your Pokemon. Drifblim dies to Stone Edge or ThunderPunch. Lopunny, Granbull, and Clefable hate Close Combat. Bronzong dies to the feiryness of Flare Blitz.

Gyarados still does a number to your team, but thanks to Intimidate and the fact that it's not Choiced, Granbull can take care of it.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Take a good look at what you said- "CB Infenape", I can see a SE coming, now, G-Dos gets taken out by Clefable, I might give it Cosmic Power > Softboiled.
 

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I suggest using a Choice Scarfer, perferably on something like 75 ish speed, and 130+ attack
Ursaring can be found as a good replacement for Granbull. It gets guts, which can make it stronger by moving it on a Burn. Its like Scarf Cross, minus some good STAB and more speed and less attack. It could help rid of your Infernape and Gyarados weakness, too: and its better to get the 2HKO on Gyarados and die with it than to never kill it and let it DD up, sweeping your team. Which is why you SHOULD use Double-Edge.
And Cosmic Power> Water Pulse: honestly. And maybe Ice Beam> Seismic Toss/ Psychic. You don't have to use Charge Beam, but it'll help.
 

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Okay, next week, I'm getting Emerald and XD, and once I'm able to IV Breed and tutor some moves, I'll be able to do these for my team -
Going over Granbull-

Ursuring/Renji @Burn Orb
Jolly Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Ability: Guts

EQ
T-Punch
I-Punch
Body Slam

And going over Clefable-

Snorlax/Hikonzong @Leftovers
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/200hp/56spdef
Ability: Thick Fat

Self-Destruct
Curse
EQ
Rock Slide
 

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It can't learn Explosion, only SD from XD.

And the last poke, going over Drifblim-

Hypno/Chill @Salac Berry
Bold Nature (Hopeingly)
EVs:200hp/126def/126spdef/4spd

Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Meditate
Seismic Toss
 

Wii4Mii 99

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It can't learn Explosion, only SD from XD.

And the last poke, going over Drifblim-

Hypno/Chill @Salac Berry
Bold Nature (Hopeingly)
EVs:200hp/126def/126spdef/4spd

Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Meditate
Seismic Toss
O_x You make the craziest movesets.

If you're so oppsessed with Baton Passing, then why don't you use Ninjask? Or Smeargle?

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Adamant
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance
- X-Scissor / Aerial Ace

Smeargle @ Focus Sash
Timid
252 Spd
- Spore
- Baton Pass
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute / Ingrain

If you want to pass Attack and Special Attack boosts so badly, then leave it to the pros.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
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