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9Kplus1

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Well, guess I want to have a second team...

Well here it goes, today, I'm gonna see how this team'll work before I try to battle with it,



Drifblim/Shippo @Liechi/Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs:252hp/252spd/4spdef
Ability: Unburden

Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Hypnosis
Stockpile

Okay, here's how this works, Drifblim has more speed to use with Unburden, Hypnosis first turn, CMs and Stockpiles the next turn, it my opponent wakes up, I'll switch to Bronzong.



Lopunny/Lopilily @Choice Band/Muscle Band (For the item clause)
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Cute Charm

T-Punch
I-Punch
Return
Sky Uppercut

I finally changed her moveset to something that can pwn a bit, I can get variety with the T-I Punch combo which is the Physical BoltBeam btw, Sky Uppercut because of the subtracted Recoil it takes, Return for that happy 150 base power. ^_^ see, I'm not all lecherous, I never even mentioned I much I wanna- <_< er, no one heard that... Return has a 152 Base Power at its maximum.



Azumaril/Miyona @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Return
Brick Break

My second little bunny, she pwns, nuff said, I replaced Double Edge with Return to conserve her HP for taking hits, I'd rather 3-4 KO a G-Dos rather that 2KO one and take out Azumi aswell. Aqua Tail gets the job done and can kick the **** out of that OU SkarmBliss. Brick Break for anything that resists.



Granbull/Koga @Chople/Lum Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/200spd/56spattk
Intimidate

Heal Bell
Close Combat
Overheat
T-Fang

My puppy, he's the runt of the litter, but he can pwn you. I threw CC in there to make Weaviles cry and Overheat is for Skarmory, T-Fang for G-Dos. Heal Bell wasn't thrown in for no reason, here's how it works-

There's a 90% chance someone will try to use W-O-W on Koga, thus making him useless, the rest of my team'll get some type of status ailment, I'll switch to Koga and Heal Bell, no one'll expect it, there's also a chance my oppoent might use Sucker Punch, because almost no one thinks Granbull suppots.



Bronzong/Kenpachi @Damp Rock
Impish Nature
EVs:252hp/124def/100spdef/31attk
Ability: Levitate

Explosion
Gyro Ball
Relfect
Rain Dance

Here's where my team gets a little bit of variety, Bronzong can Wall with no problem, if things don't look good for Zong, I'll use Rain Dance and setup for my next poke, Clefable. It can setup a Reflect to go alongside the multiple CMs I'll be doing, once its HP gets too low, I'll use Rain Dance it it wasn't setup yet, and use Explosion to kick some ***.



Clefable/Lily @Wise Glasses/Leftovers
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252hp/4spd
Ability: Magic Guard

Seismic Toss/Psychic
Water Pulse
Thunderbolt
Softboiled

^_^ Well, here's my new Tank, and I love her, I can IV Breed on Fire Red, tutor her Seismic Toss and migrate her, it's more of an Eh move, but it has no restistances only an immunity to ghost types. With Thunderbolt and Water Pulse, I can cover a few types, if I use Psychic, I can cover all types. Softboiled for more frustration. Yeah, it's a bit reliant on Bronzong, and if it stops Raining, Thunder'll be useless, that's why I'm giving her T-Bolt.

I've compiled a list of threats that can be covered by my team-

Weavile- Bronzong,Azumaril
Heatran- Azumaril,Lopunny,Granbull
Metagross- Setup with Bronzong, then, Azumaril
Dusknoir- Clefable, Bronzong
Heracross- Bronzong
T-Tar- Granbull,Lopunny
G-Dos- Lopunny,Granbull,Clefable
G-Chomp- Lopunny, Bronzong
A-Kazam- Bronzong
D-Nite- Lopunny
Ninjask-Azuamaril
Hippodwon-Clefable,Bronzong
Froslass- Azumaril, Bronzong
Porygon-Z- Bronzong (Explosion)
Skarmory-Granbull,Clefable,Azumaril
Blissey- Lopunny, Granbull,Bronzong,Azunmaril
Gardevoir(*cires*)-Lopunny,Clefable
Machamp- Bronzong
Leafeon- Clefable
Jumpluff- Granbull
Gengar- Azumaril, Clefable
Slaking-Bronzong,Lopunny,Azumaril

If there are anymore, tell me.

*Spare Pokes*
These pokes will be switched in and out randomly with my team to prevent people from predicting my lineup.



Infenape/Gokazaru @Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp

Blaze Kick
EQ
Close Combat
T-Punch




Luxray/UnitZ @Shuca Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp

Charge
Spark
Ice Fang
Fire Fang



Bastiodon/Ramparidon @Chople Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/252def/4spdef

Ice Beam
Metal Burst
HP Electric
Protect

Celebi,
Out!
 

Wii4Mii 99

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First of all, any reason Lopunny has a big picture? T.T

Here, this time I have NO OUs!

Well, guess I want to have a second team...



Mr.Mime/Mr.Mime Jr. @Liechi Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252spdef/252hp/4spd
Ability:Filter

Calm Mind
Hypnosis
Teeter Dance
Baton Pass

Funny thing, I can use Hypnosis the first turn and Teeter Dance afterwards to lower the chance of my opponent Hazing/Attacking me. He also works as a neat Special Wall

I guess this is good. IMHO, Hypno or Grumpig are better special walls.



Ampharos/Sango @Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252spd/4hp

T-Bolt
Power Gem
Focus Blast
Signal Beam

Moa special sweeper.

i c noe boltbeam.



Toxicroak/Naraku @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Ability: Dry Skin

EQ
Poison Jab
Me First
Sucker Punch

A Kinda Mixed Sweeper with Me First and all Me Firsted moves all get a stab boost sooo...

Don't tell mii you're starting to like Toxicroak, too...



Azumaril/Miyona (^_^ dunno) @Choice Band
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Brick Break
Double Edge

Choice Band + Huge Power + Azumaril = Pwnage,
Physical Choice Bander.

Good. This thing is all over RMTs recently.



Cacturne/Lil Kuro @ Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef

Seed Bomb
Revenge
Endure
Sucker Punch

Hehe, ever tried Revenge before? It pwns, I can Seed Bomb and Sucker Punch until Cacy's hp gets low and I use Endure and Salac/Revenge to sweep. Cool, huh?

Looks good.

Noe, for teh Sexiest poke and Mascot of my team-



Lopunny/LopiKeni @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef
Ability: Cute Charm

Bounce
Jump Kick
Return
Ice Punch

Ah yes, my Lopi, she's been there since June and I still wanna- nvmd, I don't wanna say it...

Once again, who DOESN'T know yoo want to do that? -_-

That's my team, rate it.
7.7/10

You know what I just realized? You're stealing other people's Pokemon mascots.

Toxicroak = Zook
Azumarill = Articanus

I should get one and tell nobody...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

9Kplus1

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First of all, any reason Lopunny has a big picture? T.T



7.7/10

You know what I just realized? You're stealing other people's Pokemon mascots.

Toxicroak = Zook
Azumarill = Articanus

I should get one and tell nobody...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
I dun know what you're talking about -_-... and it's close enough to an 8, Mr.Mime Jr is my passer BTW.
 

Aryman

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At least you didn't take my Breloom. Though others have >.<

Your team looks ok, I wouldn't use it against OU teams though. I would rate more in-depth but your Lopunny comment put me off a bit :urg:
 

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At least you didn't take my Breloom. Though others have >.<

Your team looks ok, I wouldn't use it against OU teams though. I would rate more in-depth but your Lopunny comment put me off a bit :urg:
My team has gone against teams of OUs, legends and Ubers, all Ev Trained and So far, I haven't lost yet, Breloom is too risky I hate it anywayz... I dunno what you're trying to say about me and Lopunny <.< >.>...
 

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Here, this time I have NO OUs!

Well, guess I want to have a second team...



Mr.Mime/Mr.Mime Jr. @Liechi Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252spdef/252hp/4spd
Ability:Filter

Calm Mind
Hypnosis
Teeter Dance
Baton Pass

Funny thing, I can use Hypnosis the first turn and Teeter Dance afterwards to lower the chance of my opponent Hazing/Attacking me. He also works as a neat Special Wall

I would say try a Trick/ Calm Mind/ Reflect/ Baton Pass set with Choice Scarf. Use it in conjunction with Mean looking Umbreon BPer and that pokemon is stuck while you set up.


Ampharos/Sango @Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252spd/4hp

T-Bolt
Power Gem
Focus Blast
Signal Beam

Moa special sweeper.

Why no Ice beam? Use it in place of Power Gem.



Toxicroak/Naraku @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Ability: Dry Skin

EQ
Poison Jab
Me First
Sucker Punch

A Kinda Mixed Sweeper with Me First and all Me Firsted moves all get a stab boost sooo...

Unless you BP it some Speed, Me First won't help you at all. AND WHAT IS WITH YOU AND STEALING PEOPLES POKEMON!!!


Azumaril/Miyona (^_^ dunno) @Choice Band
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Brick Break
Double Edge

Choice Band + Huge Power + Azumaril = Pwnage,
Physical Choice Bander.

Obviously, you won't listen to my spread, so w/e. I still say Focus Punch>Brick Break



Cacturne/Lil Kuro @ Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef

Seed Bomb
Revenge
Endure
Sucker Punch

Hehe, ever tried Revenge before? It pwns, I can Seed Bomb and Sucker Punch until Cacy's hp gets low and I use Endure and Salac/Revenge to sweep. Cool, huh?

Use a Focus Sash and Swords Dance over Salac Berry and Endure.
Noe, for teh Sexiest poke and Mascot of my team-



Lopunny/LopiKeni @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef
Ability: Cute Charm

Bounce
Jump Kick
Return
Ice Punch

Ah yes, my Lopi, she's been there since June and I still wanna- nvmd, I don't wanna say it...

For the love of God....
Honestly, I tried using the thing, and I can say its one of the best encorers in the game. Use that to your advantage with Sub, focus punch, and something to hit ghosts, perferably a ghost move.

That's my team, rate it.
Ugh... I'm getting tired of these "mascots".
I can tell you have an infernape weakness once ampharados(forgot the name ><') is gone, and Azu, too.
 

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My team has gone against teams of OUs, legends and Ubers, all Ev Trained and So far, I haven't lost yet, Breloom is too risky I hate it anywayz... I dunno what you're trying to say about me and Lopunny <.< >.>...
as soon as i get my internet back i'm going to put you and your slutbunny in your place!

and yes those is fightn wurds... got a problem with it.... TO BAD!!!

btw, i don't like to use legendaries and i shouldnt have to on this team

i will give it an 8 out of ten though, i just don't like the bunny
 

Wii4Mii 99

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as soon as i get my internet back i'm going to put you and your slutbunny in your place!

and yes those is fightn wurds... got a problem with it.... TO BAD!!!

btw, i don't like to use legendaries and i shouldnt have to on this team

i will give it an 8 out of ten though, i just don't like the bunny
Someone finally got the courage to speak up about that...

I should have a sexy lopunny in my team.
Fine... Go towards the light...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Kaleo42

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Someone finally got the courage to speak up about that...



Fine... Go towards the light...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Well yea call zem howz i seez zem.

and no i don't have an accent, i'm just saying and doing whatever i want to, however i want to!
 

Narshen

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Here, this time I have NO OUs!

Well, guess I want to have a second team...

Mr.Mime/Mr.Mime Jr. @Liechi Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252spdef/252hp/4spd
Ability:Filter

Calm Mind
Hypnosis
Teeter Dance
Baton Pass

Funny thing, I can use Hypnosis the first turn and Teeter Dance afterwards to lower the chance of my opponent Hazing/Attacking me. He also works as a neat Special Wall

Mr. Mime really wants some sort of special attack to go along with that set. Perhaps Psychic or Thunderbolt? Confusion is a bit too unreliable for my tastes, so I'd replace that. Soundproof is the superior ability, and is what makes Mr. Mime one of the better BPers. Also, what's with the Leichi Berry?

Ampharos/Sango @Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252spd/4hp

T-Bolt
Power Gem
Focus Blast
Signal Beam

Moa special sweeper.

Okay, I guess. Ampharos really benefits from Hidden Power[Ice](It can't learn Ice Beam, people) or [Grass], but those are quite difficult to get ingame.

Toxicroak/Naraku @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Ability: Dry Skin

EQ
Poison Jab
Me First
Sucker Punch

A Kinda Mixed Sweeper with Me First and all Me Firsted moves all get a stab boost sooo...

Me First is a bit too situational for my liking, and Toxicroak has much better options anyway. I would personally go with a Swords Dance/Cross Chop/Stone Edge/Sucker Punch set.

Azumaril/Miyona (^_^ dunno) @Choice Band
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Brick Break
Double Edge

Choice Band + Huge Power + Azumaril = Pwnage,
Physical Choice Bander.

Not so sure on that EV spread, but I'd replace Aqua Tail with Waterfall. It's a bit more reliable. Superpower or Focus Punch are appealing to me on a CB set where you'll be switching alot, so I'd use either one of those instead. I also prefer Body Slam/Return to Double Edge.

Cacturne/Lil Kuro @ Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef

Seed Bomb
Revenge
Endure
Sucker Punch

Hehe, ever tried Revenge before? It pwns, I can Seed Bomb and Sucker Punch until Cacy's hp gets low and I use Endure and Salac/Revenge to sweep. Cool, huh?

It's an interesting concept, but the standard Swords Dance/Seed Bomb/Sucker Punch/Counter set holding a Focus Sash seems far more reliable to me.

Noe, for teh Sexiest poke and Mascot of my team-



Lopunny/LopiKeni @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef
Ability: Cute Charm

Bounce
Jump Kick
Return
Ice Punch

Ah yes, my Lopi, she's been there since June and I still wanna- nvmd, I don't wanna say it...

...Yeah, Bounce and Jump Kick are pretty bad. If you're going with a CB set, squeeze Switcheroo and Sky Uppercut in the set to replace those.

That's my team, rate it.
Admittingly, I don't have a whole lot of experience with UU, but I still know how the Pokemon should be used. You're team doesn't really seem to have any real physical wall, so I'd recommend something like Aggron to help fix that.
 

9Kplus1

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Actually, Ampharos can get away with not using Ice Beam...in UU play.

In OU play, he really should have it though.
HP Ice maybe?
Someone finally got the courage to speak up about that...



Fine... Go towards the light...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
*glares*
I should have a sexy lopunny in my team.
=_= try it and there'll be 564 Bullets wuth your name on them.
as soon as i get my internet back i'm going to put you and your slutbunny in your place!

and yes those is fightn wurds... got a problem with it.... TO BAD!!!

btw, i don't like to use legendaries and i shouldnt have to on this team

i will give it an 8 out of ten though, i just don't like the bunny
=_= be lucky that I don't have good wifi ATM.

@Narshen-
Mr.Mime is my BPasser. So, once I can get the Liechi Berry going, no need for a Swords Dance, while my opponent can't attack, I can beef it up with some CMs, confusion IS reliable, I mean c'mon, it's not like I'm not gonna take any risks with this team. If Soundproof blocks Roar, I MIGHT use it, Filter downs Weavile leads.
Toxicroak has a movepool that's well adaptable.
Azumaril can't be breeded Superpower and Aqua Jet. That EV Spread can allow Azumaril to take more physical moves.
Lopunny has Jump Kick because it's more powerful than Sky Uppercut, Bounce is to make my opponent switch.
Eh, I only rely on a Focus Sash when I have something with more weaknesses that I can't see coming, think, wouldn't I easily predict an Ice,Fire,Fighting or Bug move easier? With the CM Boosts it'll get, Cacturne can survive a few special hits.
Eh, Name one physical sweeper that can actually get me.

Should I say again that I've already Breeded these pokes? A few are EV'd too, and I mean EV Trained fully.
 

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=_= be lucky that I don't have good wifi ATM.[/QUOTE]

we're both out of comition at the moment, but i will pound you and that fluff as soon as i get the chance. mark my words Blissey and Slaking are going to haunt your dreams
 

Kaleo42

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Attack of the OUs![sarcasm] Ooooo, I'm SO scared![/sarcasm]
with that team you don't stand a chance.
maybe we should try to arrange a time for a ds battle instead, cuz i know you can find the time and location to get pwn'ed with a handheld.
 

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@Narshen-
Mr.Mime is my BPasser. So, once I can get the Liechi Berry going, no need for a Swords Dance, while my opponent can't attack, I can beef it up with some CMs, confusion IS reliable, I mean c'mon, it's not like I'm not gonna take any risks with this team. If Soundproof blocks Roar, I MIGHT use it, Filter downs Weavile leads.
Toxicroak has a movepool that's well adaptable.
Azumaril can't be breeded Superpower and Aqua Jet. That EV Spread can allow Azumaril to take more physical moves.
Lopunny has Jump Kick because it's more powerful than Sky Uppercut, Bounce is to make my opponent switch.
Eh, I only rely on a Focus Sash when I have something with more weaknesses that I can't see coming, think, wouldn't I easily predict an Ice,Fire,Fighting or Bug move easier? With the CM Boosts it'll get, Cacturne can survive a few special hits.
Eh, Name one physical sweeper that can actually get me.

Should I say again that I've already Breeded these pokes? A few are EV'd too, and I mean EV Trained fully.
Since you don't have any mixed sweepers on your team, you don't really need to boost both the Atk and Sp. Atk stats. Salac berry would be infinetly more useful IMO. Confusion is too random to be all that useful in the long run. They could snap out of it after one turn of confusion, or...never hurt themselves. :/ It's not a terrible status effect, but it's not something I would ever use. Soundproof does block Roar. Even with Filter, standard Weavile can still score an easy OHKO on Mr. Mime IIRC.

What do you mean by "well adaptable"? From my understanding, Me First is not a priority move, and Toxicroak isn't that fast. Earthquake is really only for hitting Muk, and Poison Jab has terrible type coverage.

It can't? In that case, Brick Break is an all right option. If you're good at predicting, Focus Punch might be better, but it's your choice.

Sky Uppercut is just as powerful as Jump Kick is, only you don't have to suffer some serious recoil if you miss. As for Bounce...I take it you enjoy having your opponent switch into a Ghost/Steel/Rock type to take the attack? It's not as powerful as Return, your opponent can easily switch to a counter and set up if you Bounce, and its accuracy isn't that great.

But you also have to remember that not all attacks being launched at Cacturne are special. The CounterSash set allows it to take down physical threats with ease, or for special threats, use Swords Dance and Sucker Punch them the next turn.

Only counting UU Pokes, Solrock, Aggron, Sharpedo, Hitmonlee, Ursaring, etc. The problem doesn't lie in taking them down one on one, but rather, you have nothing that can safely switch in to any of them.
 

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Since you don't have any mixed sweepers on your team, you don't really need to boost both the Atk and Sp. Atk stats. Salac berry would be infinetly more useful IMO. Confusion is too random to be all that useful in the long run. They could snap out of it after one turn of confusion, or...never hurt themselves. :/ It's not a terrible status effect, but it's not something I would ever use. Soundproof does block Roar. Even with Filter, standard Weavile can still score an easy OHKO on Mr. Mime IIRC.

What do you mean by "well adaptable"? From my understanding, Me First is not a priority move, and Toxicroak isn't that fast. Earthquake is really only for hitting Muk, and Poison Jab has terrible type coverage.

It can't? In that case, Brick Break is an all right option. If you're good at predicting, Focus Punch might be better, but it's your choice.

Sky Uppercut is just as powerful as Jump Kick is, only you don't have to suffer some serious recoil if you miss. As for Bounce...I take it you enjoy having your opponent switch into a Ghost/Steel/Rock type to take the attack? It's not as powerful as Return, your opponent can easily switch to a counter and set up if you Bounce, and its accuracy isn't that great.

But you also have to remember that not all attacks being launched at Cacturne are special. The CounterSash set allows it to take down physical threats with ease, or for special threats, use Swords Dance and Sucker Punch them the next turn.

Only counting UU Pokes, Solrock, Aggron, Sharpedo, Hitmonlee, Ursaring, etc. The problem doesn't lie in taking them down one on one, but rather, you have nothing that can safely switch in to any of them.
EXCUSE YOU! we are trying to have an off-topic trash-talk battle here.

JK, you seem to know your sh*t, i just felt like saying something to you
 

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if you didn't have azumarill a part of your team, you could've had this team legit for UU battles... but not, you have to use one BL poke


but it looks good to me

except for that lopunny
 

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As I was going to say before-

@Narshen-
I'll go ahead and use Energy Ball > Teeter Dance on Mr.Mime, I'll give it Soundproof and a Salac Berry too.

Yes, Toxicroak has Me First for a reason, for countering things that like to use moves that are generally super effective to itself, If I can pass a Salac Berry, Me First is guarenteed to go First. Poison Jab is the only thing I have for Grass Types.

Bounce is there on Lopunny TO make my opponent switch, think, wouldn't that be useful when there's a CS/CB Hera out that uses Megahorn, or a Weavile who doesn't want to waste its Sash? I got the Acc confused with the power on Jump Kick' 95 acc to a 90 acc, which is more reliable? Almost NONE of the non-n00b pokes use Fly anymore, at least 2% of flying pokes use Fly and why use that on Lopunny? Also, you forget that most pokes who use Bounce/Fly are Types that resist fighting moves so, Jump Kick is better.

BB on Azumaril is better, Focus Punch could be a waste of a turn.

I might change Cacturne's moveset to this-

Sucker Punch
Seed Bomb
Brick Break
Swords Dance

Sashes are unreliable due to pokes who 2KO this poke, Burn or Poison it.

May I go offtopic for a sec?
Narshen, you know your stuff pretty well, if you did, what site did you come from? Because, it's been a while since I've eaten my own words.

M4F- Read my reasons for Lopunny here-↑↑↑↑
 

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=.= why does everyone hate her as a poke? She's pwnd a good amount of OUs, I dun see the problem...
Ok i need to piont out, that it did look appealling in the begaining, but then i saw its stats and realized what it really was; nothing but a move pool, there is nothing special about it besides the fact that so many people think it's great just because one beat you early on in the game. IT IS JUST A POKE WITH MOVES!!! no stats worth mentioning. the only reason i'm against it is because it is so hyped up to be this great thing that it isn't.

so seriously no offense, if you like it then like it, just don't make it out to be better than it is.
 

Narshen

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As I was going to say before-

@Narshen-
I'll go ahead and use Energy Ball > Teeter Dance on Mr.Mime, I'll give it Soundproof and a Salac Berry too.

Yes, Toxicroak has Me First for a reason, for countering things that like to use moves that are generally super effective to itself, If I can pass a Salac Berry, Me First is guarenteed to go First. Poison Jab is the only thing I have for Grass Types.

Bounce is there on Lopunny TO make my opponent switch, think, wouldn't that be useful when there's a CS/CB Hera out that uses Megahorn, or a Weavile who doesn't want to waste its Sash? I got the Acc confused with the power on Jump Kick' 95 acc to a 90 acc, which is more reliable? Almost NONE of the non-n00b pokes use Fly anymore, at least 2% of flying pokes use Fly and why use that on Lopunny? Also, you forget that most pokes who use Bounce/Fly are Types that resist fighting moves so, Jump Kick is better.

BB on Azumaril is better, Focus Punch could be a waste of a turn.

I might change Cacturne's moveset to this-

Sucker Punch
Seed Bomb
Brick Break
Swords Dance

Sashes are unreliable due to pokes who 2KO this poke, Burn or Poison it.

May I go offtopic for a sec?
Narshen, you know your stuff pretty well, if you did, what site did you come from? Because, it's been a while since I've eaten my own words.

M4F- Read my reasons for Lopunny here-↑↑↑↑
Well now that you can pass Spd to him, I suppose Me First is a viable option. I still prefer Sucker Punch, as random Pokemon with CS will still outrun you, but eh.

...Bounce might make that random Sash Weavile get out, but what good is it going to do you if they switch into something like Aggron or Skarmory and are allowed a free turn to do whatever? Remember, you'll be locked into Bounce with your CB in play, so YOU'RE going to have to go on the defensive when everything's said and done. As for the Jump Kick vs. Sky Uppercut issue, 5 less accuracy is hardly noticable, and you don't have to suffer recoil if you miss. This isn't ADV anymore where the jump kicks' recoil does neglible damage. It's dependent on your attack power now.

Yeah, Focus Punch could be a waste if you're not very good at predicting switches and such. Brick Break is fine in this case.

Burn/Poison inducers are easy to predict, and Cacturne is actually one of the better Sash users as it isn't hindered by the effects of sandstorm and Leech Seed. Many things will kill you if you're not Sashed, especially if you try and Swords Dance first turn.

I used to go to Nsider alot(which is down for good now, it seems), which is where I learned of Netbattle and met a few a competitive battlers. Most of what I know however comes from the years of playing of Netbattle I've done and the lurking at Smogon I did(I'm a member there too, under the same username).
 

9Kplus1

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Well now that you can pass Spd to him, I suppose Me First is a viable option. I still prefer Sucker Punch, as random Pokemon with CS will still outrun you, but eh.

...Bounce might make that random Sash Weavile get out, but what good is it going to do you if they switch into something like Aggron or Skarmory and are allowed a free turn to do whatever? Remember, you'll be locked into Bounce with your CB in play, so YOU'RE going to have to go on the defensive when everything's said and done. As for the Jump Kick vs. Sky Uppercut issue, 5 less accuracy is hardly noticable, and you don't have to suffer recoil if you miss. This isn't ADV anymore where the jump kicks' recoil does neglible damage. It's dependent on your attack power now.

True

Yeah, Focus Punch could be a waste if you're not very good at predicting switches and such. Brick Break is fine in this case.

Burn/Poison inducers are easy to predict, and Cacturne is actually one of the better Sash users as it isn't hindered by the effects of sandstorm and Leech Seed. Many things will kill you if you're not Sashed, especially if you try and Swords Dance first turn.

*Replacing Cacturne*

I used to go to Nsider alot(which is down for good now, it seems), which is where I learned of Netbattle and met a few a competitive battlers. Most of what I know however comes from the years of playing of Netbattle I've done and the lurking at Smogon I did(I'm a member there too, under the same username).
Eh, had a feelin you were from Smogon,

*Edit*, updated my team
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Well, guess I want to have a second team...



Mr.Mime/Mr.Mime Jr. @Salac Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252spdef/252hp/4spd
Ability:Filter

Calm Mind
Hypnosis
Energy Ball/Focus Blast/Teeter Dance
Baton Pass

Funny thing, I can use Hypnosis the first turn and Teeter Dance afterwards to lower the chance of my opponent Hazing/Attacking me. I could add an attack in there to prevent getting wasted into getting Taunted.

Is this your lead? It's practically murdered by Weavile and Gyarados leads, unless you can outspeed and Hypnosis the latter.



Ampharos/Sango @Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs:252spattk/252spd/4hp

T-Bolt
Power Gem
Focus Blast
Signal Beam

Moa special sweeper.

Looks good.



Toxicroak/Naraku @Life Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp
Ability: Dry Skin

EQ
Poison Jab
Me First
Sucker Punch

A Kinda Mixed Sweeper with Me First and all Me Firsted moves all get a stab boost sooo...

Looks good.



Azumaril/Miyona (^_^ dunno) @Choice Band
EVs:252attk/100hp/100def/48spdef/8spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Huge Power

Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Brick Break
Double Edge

Choice Band + Huge Power + Azumaril = Pwnage,
Physical Choice Bander.

There are too many of these. I swear, if I ever bump into one, I'm going to send a Dugtrio in while it's stuck doing Focus Punch, and keep EQing it away...



Granbull/Koga(Not the Gym Leader) @Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spattk
Intimidate

EQ
Close Combat
Overheat
Crunch/Ice Fang

My pup, ONLY if I get a Successful Baton Pass ,or, if I wanna just Imtimidate I'll switch to him, Overheat to put those CMs to use, Crunch for psychics, Ice Fang for Dragons, Close Combat for that ever-lasting physical sweeper status.

The only thing you could pass to this would be Salac Berry. Calm Mind would be (almost useless.

Noe, for teh Sexiest poke and Mascot of my team-



Lopunny/LopiKeni @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/252spd/4spdef
Ability: Cute Charm

Bounce
Jump Kick
Return
Ice Punch

Ah yes, my Lopi, she's been there since June and I still wanna- nvmd, I don't wanna say it...

No comment.

That's my team, rate it.
Your team has 4 Choice Pokemon. If the opponent predicts well, and with the help of SR, your team could phail.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

9Kplus1

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5 things-

1. Azumaril has BB, not Focus Punch...

2. Um, maybe, the spdef boost helps Granbull out and the spattk boost brings death to Skarms.

3. Oooo, I got an idea! Toxicroak handles Choice Weaviles, Azumi handles the Sashers and Granbull can Intimidate G-Dos back into its pokeball...

4. Uh, I can predict, the Choice Pokes aren't a problem, I'll switch when I can see that my opponent can predict what I'll do next.

5. Why no comment on Lopi?
 

Wii4Mii 99

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5 things-

1. Azumaril has BB, not Focus Punch...

Oh...

2. Um, maybe, the spdef boost helps Granbull out and the spattk boost brings death to Skarms.

Good point. But it's still Choice Banded.

3. Oooo, I got an idea! Toxicroak handles Choice Weaviles, Azumi handles the Sashers and Granbull can Intimidate G-Dos back into its pokeball...

No it can't. Ice Punch FTW.

4. Uh, I can predict, the Choice Pokes aren't a problem, I'll switch when I can see that my opponent can predict what I'll do next.

Ever heard of "outprediction", son?

5. Why no comment on Lopi?

No comment.
Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Congragulations on the 800th post. You're getting there!
 
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Toxicroak = Zook
Azumarill = Articanus

I should get one and tell nobody...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

ooh, weavile can be my mascot, he is on every one of my teams, and the first poke i evtrained in Diamond

toxicroak base 85 adamant with a 269 max speed is not good with me first
 

Kaleo42

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=_=...

1. Granbull is SCARFED.

2. Okay, Azumaril has the defense to counter a Waavile.

3.Yes, I'm using it right now.

4.-_-...
ok, i'm back... VIV CON LO!!! (live with it!)

anyways you want a legit comment on your bunny, here you go

there are much better choices out there, they have on of the worst base stat spreads out there, high speed (105) and respectable def. (84 and 96). there is no good way to use one, they're to weak in def to wall or much of anything else, highest attack stat is 76 which is a joke in the sweeper's realm and sweeping and maybe aiding another poke is all 105 spd is good for.

long story short; you tried to get sweeper from the world's fastest cottonball.

BTW: if your going to try a fluffy sweeper at least make use of it's greatest facit, the move-pool!
 

Kaleo42

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=_=...

1. Granbull is SCARFED.

2. Okay, Azumaril has the defense to counter a Waavile.

3.Yes, I'm using it right now.

4.-_-...
ok, i'm back... VIV CON LO!!! (live with it!)

anyways you want a legit comment on your bunny, here you go

there are much better choices out there, they have on of the worst base stat spreads out there, high speed (105) and respectable def. (84 and 96). there is no good way to use one, they're too weak in def to wall or much of anything else in that area, highest attack stat is 76 which is a joke in the sweeper's realm! sweeping and maybe aiding another poke is all 105 spd is good for.

long story short; you tried to get sweeper from the world's fastest cottonball.

BTW: if your going to try a fluffy sweeper at least make use of it's greatest facit, the move-pool!
 

9Kplus1

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Double Post ftw?

Like I said, Lopunny can pwn if used correctly, Yes, I agree with the comments on Bounce, and I'll take it into consideration, there's a reason I don't wanna go back, IVs,

Lopunny's IVs are-
29hp/31attk/30def/0spattk/31spdef/31spd

Toxicroak-
14hp/31attk/29def/3spattk/30spdef/31spd

Azumaril-
31hp/31attk/30def/0spattk/30spdef/31spd

Ampharos-
30hp/9attk/29def/31spattk/25spdef/31spd

Mr.Mime-
31 for all but attack (0)

Granbull- (Waiting)

As you can see, I've been lucky while breeding, the parent's IVs were horrible, but, by some luck, I managed to get good IVs. I find it near impossible to do again.
 

Kaleo42

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sorry about the double, my internet froze when i hit the summit button, so i went back and ended up with 2 post. really sorry

i understand i can be threatening when used correctly, but i'm hinting at the fact that yours is not used correctly. i will admit i have never seen it in battle and i understand that underdog (or in your case underbunny) can poll out the win, heck i used to be known for that.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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I agree with Kaleo42. I'm not saying Lopunny is suckish, though.

I'd like to see a Switcheroo set. Something like:

Lopunny @ CB / CSpecs / CScarf / Iron Ball

-Switcheroo
-Charm
-Mirror Coat
-filler (preferably an annoying attack or damaging attack)

But with your Lopunny's IVs, I can see why you want it to be Choice Banded.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

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Ill be the first to say that Lopunny sux.
It can do a lot of things, but can't do anything better than anything else, even with the surprise factor.
If your going for a serious OU, BL, UU, or even NU tournament, kindly leave Lopunny out of it. It may be a ****, but Blissey is a *****, and whores>sluts.
 

9Kplus1

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Ill be the first to say that Lopunny sux.
It can do a lot of things, but can't do anything better than anything else, even with the surprise factor.
If your going for a serious OU, BL, UU, or even NU tournament, kindly leave Lopunny out of it. It may be a ****, but Blissey is a *****, and whores>sluts.
If you've seen my Lopunny battle, then you'll admit her pwnage. I might consider Drain Punch > Bounce though as a secondary fighting move.
I agree with Kaleo42. I'm not saying Lopunny is suckish, though.

I'd like to see a Switcheroo set. Something like:

Lopunny @ CB / CSpecs / CScarf / Iron Ball

-Switcheroo
-Charm
-Mirror Coat
-filler (preferably an annoying attack or damaging attack)

But with your Lopunny's IVs, I can see why you want it to be Choice Banded.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Like I said, I'm not breeding... AGAIN.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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You have too many Choice Pokemon. I think 2 is enough, 3 tops.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
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