pwnyride i respected you as a fellow zelda player but you seem very arrogant today, its not that your entire point is wrong, its right in many ways, but you jump to assumptions that shouldn't be made and yes, you are ignoring your posts' counters.
what do you mean what features in brawl should we list that casuals woudn't use and what would be the point in doing so, specify
Brawl had plenty of competitive nature in it in the demo, and nintendo SPENT MONEY taking competitive aspects OUT, in otherwords they did NOT spend more money 2 make the game more competitive, and thought they would get more profits JUST BECAUSE THE GAME WASN'T COMPETITIVE.
Their argument isn't that flawed in that, on online, if adv techs that casuals were in, casuals would constantly lose, disrupting the even balance of wins/losses in With Anyone mode with FSs and Items in which on an ideal level, ANYONE should be able to win, and I mean ANYONE.
I find this uneccessary and overzealous destruction of one of the most competitive games ever for misguided intentions, as there arn't even that many competitive players, and matchups that result in a casual going up against a competitive on a With Anyone mode are going to be very minute (if competitive players use WithAnyone mode at all...)
Nintendo is not geared at ALL to competitive players, mabye the hype to Brawll made us forget this and remember nintendos more hardcore attempts (such as melee, OoT, Mario 64, all of which hardcore by current nintendo's standards), but if you need a reminder say hi to "Cooking Mama". I would suggest an Xbox, mabye a PS3 since i hear its a good year, but you won't have ne one 2 play with because NO ONE has a PS3