Regarding sheik's throws vs fast fallers

[execute]

I was watching KDJ's matches from MLG long island and it seemed that against fast fallers KDJ's shiek opted to use F throw and B throw instead of D throw or U throw. I am very new to playing sheik so I was wondering why he did this. I was assuming it was because he was trying to get them closer to the edge so he could get in his filthy f air edge guard. Also I was wondering ( I know it depends on DI and %s) but what are some of the optimal throw combos against FFs with sheik?

 

[hhliveson]

there really arent any combos. its a matter of tech chasing after the d-throw.

 

[DynamicDuo]

I have seen a video of sheik doing something with a dair to a smash up to a ftilt to a dash attack to a ftilt again to a fair and gg, this was done after a tech chase if this doesn't count as a combo i don't know what is.

 

[Fefnir Cerveau]

What he does is probably lead to a tech chase. The thing is, he throws them near the ledge to give them slightly less options, and most likely some pressure, since dthrow/uthrow only leads to gay combos starting at a bit higher percent.

 

[Drephen]

dont throw up, throw down

 

[CopyCat]

It depends on the both the FF with the sheik, cause at times people may di wrong or miss the tech if you try a F throw compared to a D throw which may give you the opportunity to grab again or to tilt some more.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

dont throw up, throw down

ive heard counters for both. pros nihonjin throw up, and I recall seeing a video of some other pro, I think it was Forward but am not sure, where they kept uthrowing, attempting to punch after at low percents or follow up with a ftilt. but most sheiks throw down. if dthrow is the best option, why do some pros throw up then?

 

[Jujumasta]

From what I've seen Nihonjin does uthrow-fair-regrab on fastfallers, KDJ is a great edgeguarder so I can kind of see a reason to fthrow/bthrow.

 

[Drephen]

nihonjin is in europe, they play PAL, down throw is horrible in PAL

 

[Ryan-K]

Uthrow is only good for the gimmicky uthrow jab once or twice or platform chasing. or if you play PAL where dthrow can be DIed to a ridiculous extent to the point where it is almost useless.

 

[CmRoddy]

D-throw is the best throw to use against fast fallers because its easy to tech chase, unless your close to the edge and throw them off to edge guard.

 

[Plairnkk]

uthrow with sheik is good on spacies if you want to platform harass them, or if you know they'll DI away you can uthrow-->jab-->regrab.

EXPAND UR GAME D-REPHEN?

 

[mathos]

Never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: this is drephen lol

 

[Cra$hman]

foxes are some of the stupidest players, too easy to techchase

 

[Mars-]

foxes are some of the stupidest players, too easy to techchase

True story.

 

[Banks]

uthrow under a platform, then when they are on the platform,jump above the platform and waveland straight down quickly, then grab wherever they are, most likely sheilding a wrongly-anticipated attack. it always works unless they expect it for some reason. I learned this by watching forward play. good stuff.

 

[robyextreme]

Hm 90% of the time I d-throw, I u-throw if I know their going to tech on a platform, it's a free F-air then.

B-throw and f-throw are sort of predictable if you're near the ledge but it gets them off the stage.

Mix up your game.