Regarding JC Grabs

[FE_Hector]

So, JC grabs are my main way of obtaining grabs. I just use the typical DD to force whiff -> grab -> wreck strategy most of the time. Funny how well it works (though obviously it's not the only strategy I use). Anyways, I was wondering because of the nature of JC grabs (or JC anything) if it lifted up the grab range a little bit. I don't really have any way to test this on my own, otherwise I would.

 

[NIFOFD]

Jump cancel grabs actually do grab higher than a dash grab. The reason for this is that a JC grab is basically a standing grab.

Try it out against Jiggs. Trying to JC grab crouching Jiggs will make you miss the grab (leading to an easy rest). You'll have to do a dash grab to reach low enough to snag Jiggs. Watch Hungrybox vs. The Moon for a good demonstration of this.

 

[FE_Hector]

That's not what I meant. I knew that the standing grab range was higher than the dash grab range. *shudders* I hate that dash grab TBH. Anyways, I meant in comparison with the standing grab, is it any higher?

 

[NIFOFD]

No it is not any higher than standing grab. You do not gain height as you are still grounded when the grab is inputted (just in jump squat).

 

[AirFair]

JC grab just does a standing grab lol.

 

[FE_Hector]

Okay, thanks. I wasn't entirely sure about how it worked. I figured it was about the same as standing, but I wanted to be sure.

 

[DeadPigeon]

Okay, thanks. I wasn't entirely sure about how it worked. I figured it was about the same as standing, but I wanted to be sure.

Like airfair said, it is a standing grab (it's not similar, they are the same).

The way it works is the game reads a characters state during the jumpsquat animation (the first frames after you initiate a jump, but before you leave the ground) as standing. So when you press jump and then quickly press grab before your character leaves the ground, you do a standing grab. It's necessary (as I'm sure you know) because if you input a grab during dash, you get a dash grab. So you need to jump (or shield) to cancel the dash animation so the game reads you as standing still.