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BlackWaltzX

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Alright, it looked nice for the most part, as for critiques, I have two or three problems and I have some advice~

1. WAC the thunder. In the first video, you didn't and got pretty hurt from it. Sometimes it was a HUGELY avoidable one like the grounded thunder, others he combo'd you with the thunder.

2. Don't be scared hardcore. I'm not sure, but I saw him say PIKA (thunder) and him being no where near you on -battlefield- and you whistled. Just try to be like... aware where they are.

3. Hitting with white :U This is my biggest pet peeve any Olimar can do, IDK I just irritate myself if I do it (To the point of me suiciding sometimes and I believe I did it once in a tourney match because I was so bothered and felt my line was messed up).

Everything else looked pretty clean. Just try to measure up a bit more with the attacks as opposed to whiffed attacks and you are looking great. (I have this problem too)

Extra tips. I forgot what I was going to say but one thing. I say you do dthrow to fair to dtilt and tried to upsmash. Most people won't fall for this. If they have bad DI (Not this guy, as you may have known by playing him) it won't work. Instead, dtilt twice or dsmash out of titlt. Dtilt twice is the safe 'escape' one. Dsmash after dtilt is the one where you will USUALLY hit them if they hit you.


Oh, great work making the purple pikmin do that thing that gives them super armor. You know the one. I saw that. :D
 

Fino

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Where did you see that (I'm too lazy to watch both lol).
Good lolimar. One thing to note about the pikachu match-up (I know this one ALL to well playing a pikachu clan for a good month straigh haha) is that thundershock is their means to keep you away, spacing themselves, punishing, and forcing you to approach. You can take all that away from usmashes, nairs and utilts (fair if you know how to hit it). It REALLY messes them up for w/e reason, and it works great.
Other than that and what waltz said I was pretty impressed. I need to throw some vids up soon....


~Fino
 

Rocann

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So far I've only watched the YI one, will edit

1. You get hit by a lot of stuff. Particularly very avoidable thunders. Maybe a little too focused on getting hits in of your own. That's cool for a lot of characters, but Pika has range, priority, and some disjointed stuff. Not to mention jolt.

2. Organize yo ****. When you get a kill and your next-in-line goes blue - purple - purple, take that opportunity to do like a fair, then throw off one or two of the purples (especially if you have any more than 2.) You really don't want them around when you're doing your low % combos, and they're less useful in particular vs pikachu who you need to keep more range from if you don't wanna be sucked into dsmash.

3. WAC, I've learned, has its uses. But I don't think I saw you airdodge *once* in that video.(YI one) You got hit by a lot of very avoidable air stuff. I actually got a little annoyed >_>

4. Exact opposite of 3, there were some points in there when pika was doing the quick uairs and **** too fast to airdodge, and you were trying to, you have to use the whistle in there. That's basically low % for pika, and when you get hit up in the air for to get through a thunder.

5. Try to work nair into your game a little more, I think you always elected to go fair/dair which isn't really as effective in a lot of cases.

otherwise really fun matches to watch
 

asob4

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add my numbers rich :p
i can just record it if you want and put it on filefront

anyways thanks guys
keep in mind these are friendlies and i do act more reckless in friendlies :D
most of it is my core gameplay, except i play a tiny bit smarter, organized, and safer in tourney play

this was like one of my first times playing a good pika, and he's in my crew lol

i do use nair a lot :p just not in friendlies hahaha jk jk i just forgotted

and some of the times i got hit by thunder were either when i was up there just trying to DI (you see me do a dair really high up >_>) or i wasn't thinking/getting frustrated

and pikmin desynch ftw? lol
 

Jadedlink

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I'm starting to like watching olimar matches more and more. You've already been critqued enough, so I really dont' need to.

I expect more videos, no matter how long it takes you. With all these videos, i need to get some of mine up. If only I had something better than a webcam.
 

asob4

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i just got done recording a few.. well a lot but not all are going up right now.. so at least a set should be up by the end of the day today. probably a few tomorrow.
 

Fino

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First vid, epic mind game 1:12 and again right after. you really work the pluck cancel... it makes me want to try it more ^_^
I'm pretty sure you can hyphen smash through the SH fireballs. It's something that (like pika) he uses to get you to approach. Make sure you take away that advantage ;)
You had a couple gimp kills that could've been avoided, but it was friendlies so no johns. lol.
I'll look at the other two in a sec.


~Fino
 

RichBrown

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I disagree with AndyG point number 2 slightly. I'm highly infatuated by purple pikmin, and I like to whistle them to the front of my line should I have any after a KO. Then, when the invincibility frames are gone, I'll chuck the purples at my opponent and then go in for the grab. It makes getting that initial grab at a low % so much easier, even if you miss the purple toss, because it keeps your opponent pressured.

A lot of what shoulda been said has been said. Just be sure to save your double jump, and make sure you save your blue back throw. I can't understand why almost every olimar I've ever seen does a backthrow with a non-blue pikmin (or a backthrow with a blue at a low percent) simply because they are close to the edge of the stage, or because it's a blue pikmin. Save the backthrow, you'll be glad you did when you grab somebody with a blue at 100% and they go FLYING WOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Still gotta add your wii/brawl numbers haha >_<
 

Awex

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everyone said stuff blah blah. But I went //headdesk when you rolled into mario's fsmash during invincibility lolol.

But yeah, not bad.
 
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