Rate Their Chances Returns! Day 194: "Predicting the Direct"

[Opossum]

Porky time!

Likelihood: 11%

I feel he's the most likely Mother newcomer, but there in lies the problem...

Want: 89%
Mech user! :D

Predicting a 6.78 for Skull Kid.

Nominating Falco x5

 

[SchAlternate]

Porky
Likelihood: 20% - He's by far the most likely Mother rep out there, as his popularity, move potential, and relevance to the series he's from makes him the most deserving character to become the series third rep. However, like Simon Belmont and Samurai Goroh, the slot he'd take itself is highly unlikely, and unless some miracle occurs, we might not see him making it. Still crossing my fingers, though!
Want: 95% - Not a big fan of Mother, mind you, but I think Porky is among my most wanted villains to appear (alongside K.Rool, Ridley and Mewtwo). He's an asshole and has his reasons to be so. And he's related to such amazing tracks such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpD6_BZMK1M

Skull kid
Chances: 6% - For some reason, some people still want this guy in as I scream WHYYY!?

Nominations
Lip x5

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Skull Kid has been in three games.

Not THE skull kid though.

Porky: 5%

He's one of the most likely Mother newcomer, but I can't see another Mother character happening in a million years....

Want: 50%
Meh.

Skull Kid Prediction: 22%

Some people will rate him WAAAAY too high.

Nominations:
Snake x3
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Not THE skull kid though.

Porky: 5%

He's one of the most likely Mother newcomer, but I can't see another Mother character happening in a million years....

Want: 50%
Meh.

Skull Kid Prediction: 22%

Some people will rate him WAAAAY too high.

Nominations:
Snake x3
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch

"The" Skull Kid has almost certainly been in two games, and it's arguable that he's the same character in Twilight Princess. Why does he have to be the same? Most of the Links are different.

 

[Xenigma]

Oh wow, I completely forgot to listen to Time's End when it came out. Now remedying that mistake.

Porky - 5%
Don't really have anything to say here that I didn't say about Masked Man. Mother is incredibly lucky to have two characters, and it would take some incredible bias on the part of Sakurai and company to add even more for SSB4 while there are still so many new series and more important/popular characters from already represented series to cover. Regardless of Porky's individual qualifications, he feels very unlikely.
Want - 0% - Zero interest in the character, or more Mother in general.

Skull Kid - 15%
Back to the 15s! He's one of many Zelda villains, but there's no denying the popularity of him and Majora's Mask in general.

Nominations
Black Shadow x5

 

[DukeofShorts]

Porky chance: 5%
Mother doesn't have enough games for three characters.

Porky want: 50%
Indifferent again.

Skull Kid prediction: 15.01%

Anthony Higgs x5

 

[Weruop]

Porky: 65%. important character from both the game starring ness and the game starring lucas, both of which we already have. played a notable role in SSE as a boss. Earthbound just released in the US is a plus in terms of relevance. If Nintendo also has plans to release Mother3 in the US, that could give Sakurai more reason to include Porky.

A lot of people will say that his chances are pretty low because "the series is already repped well enough with 2 characters." But with Brawl having just 2 DK reps while Starfox and Kirby both had 3 reps each, i find the argument against the inclusion of a 3rd character from the EB/Mother to not hold too much weight. Weve had this series represented since the first smash bros and for it to even have just 3/45 characters on the roster is not some crazy idea.

Want: 80%

 

[PkRockin]

Porky: 16%
He is the most likely Mother rep, but pretty sure we're not going to get a new Mother rep.

Want: 90%
Smash needs more villains and Porky is a great one!

Skull Kid: 20%

Noms: Lip x5

 

[wildvine47]

Heck yeah nomination bonus! Day of Adam Malkovich here I come

Likelihood: 10% - Among the remaining potential Mother reps, he stands out as one of the more likely ones alongside Masked Man and maaaaybe Ninten. However, the fact that Mother will almost definitely not get another rep is going to be the stone wall that blocks him out, unless Sakurai's love and bias for the series will really drive him that far.

Want: 34% - As nice as it'd be, I'm much more in favor of the two other Mother potential reps; Masked Man due to the incredible moveset potential he has, and Ninten to finish of the trilogy of Mother protags. Porky's robot moveset would definitely be a welcome unique moveset, however.

Skull Kid prediction: 14% - Despite him being a character I'd personally really love to see, he's not entirely likely.

Nominations:
Adam Malkovich x10

 

[YoshiandToad]

Porky
Chance: 10%
From two Mother games, appeared as a Brawl boss, and seems to have a fanbase. Problem is Mother is over and there's only three games in the series. Does it need three reps?

Want: 35%
No personal connections to Mother, but of the potential characters I've seen suggested(Ninten, Claus/Masked Man, etc) Porky's the one I'd like most.

Skull Kid: 18%

Nominations:
X 5 Roy

 

[Fastblade5035]

"The" Skull Kid has almost certainly been in two games, and it's arguable that he's the same character in Twilight Princess. Why does he have to be the same? Most of the Links are different.

Because unlike Sonic I don't chuckle , Link is still the main character of the series, and all the Links are connected by the Triforce of Courage, so they could be viewed as the same person in different bodies... Kinda.
Skull Kid doesn't have that. This particular Skull Kid only has one confirmed appearance; its implied that he's also in OoT, so two. That's only two appearances, and his generic name certainly doesn't help his case.
Basically, 'The' Skull Kid needs more confirmed appearances to be more recognizable. Compare this to other reoccurring, recognizable Zelda characters like Vaati and Tingle...

 

[PK_Wonder]

Porky - 0.5% a third Mother rep is highly unlikely, and Claus competes with him. I will change my mind if Mother 3 receives localization.
predict Skull Kid: 14.87%
Wonder Red x5

 

[Forde]

Porky
Chances: 12%
Want: 5%

The chances of seeing a 3rd mother rep just don't seem to add up to anything major. Yes, it was really cool to have Lucas in brawl, alongside ness, even though he was a clone.

Skull Kid Prediction: 19%

Nominations
Cloud Strife x5

 

[FalKoopa]

Edit for Skull kid's prediction- 15%

The Edit button doesn't work for me.

I edited your post for you.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Porky:

Likelihood: 5% - Sadly Mother is already well repped as is, and there's hardly any very big and noticeable demand left for any new Mother rep either.

Want: 97% - Earthbound being my favorite game I'd absolutely scream in delight. He's just such a nasty character in general, and he'd bring a very unique fighting style using his mech, preferably the smaller one from Earthbound instead of the one from Mother 3.

Skull Kid Prediction: 17%

Nominations:
5x Snake

 

[AEMehr]

Porky
Chance - 13%
Want - 100%

Skull Kid
Prediction - 11.4%

Nominations:
x5 Professor Layton

 

[Ephecus]

Porky

Chance: 10 %
Although he is one of the more likely EB-reps he still has competition with Paula, Masked Man and Ninten. Also Earthbound will probably not get a third rep.

Want: 5 %
I really don't want another Earthbound-Rep and I don't like the character of Porky. If they choose another EB-rep I'd rather see another protagonist.

Skull Kid Prediction: 9.5 %

Nominations:
Wonder Red x5

 

[Groose]

Oh wow, I completely forgot to listen to Time's End when it came out. Now remedying that mistake.

You... knew of Time's End and chose not to listen to it...?​

Because unlike Sonic I don't chuckle , Link is still the main character of the series, and all the Links are connected by the Triforce of Courage, so they could be viewed as the same person in different bodies... Kinda.
Skull Kid doesn't have that. This particular Skull Kid only has one confirmed appearance; its implied that he's also in OoT, so two. That's only two appearances, and his generic name certainly doesn't help his case.
Basically, 'The' Skull Kid needs more confirmed appearances to be more recognizable. Compare this to other reoccurring, recognizable Zelda characters like Vaati and Tingle...

SOMEONE BELIEVES IN THE POWER OF KOO-LOO LIMPAH! Yay!

Anyway, I'd argue that they're probably the same Skull Kid, but you do make your point quite clear. I personally don't expect him unless if that Majora's Mask remake is already in the works... then things could get hairy.

I am one of the few people on here who actually liked Skyward Sword. It's actually one of my favorite games of all-time.

I thought it was a great game; it was just disappointing for a Zelda game.

I thought it was an amazing game. It wasn't perfect (which ranks it behind Wind Waker and Majora's Mask in my opinion), but it did many things right (Groose, Ghirahim, stanima meter, deeper environments, etc.). At the very least, it was a step forward after Twilight Princess.

 

[XenothiumX]

Porky
Likelihood: 2%
Want: 5%

Skull Kid
Prediction: 7%

Nominations:
King Harkinian x5
Dixie Kong x5

 

[NickerBocker]

Porky
Chance: 13%
Among new Mother reps, he has one of the best chances, but thats where it ends. 2 Mother reps is plenty and I dont personally think they will be getting 3 unless the roster is fairly big.
Want: 20%
Id be okay with a boss, but there are a ton of other characters that id prefer.

Skull Kid: 13.6%
He is popular and will be high rated by some, but a large portion of us will keep him down. That being said, he is probably one of my favorite villains of all time, that is the MM version

Noms: Ah no more Skull Kid, time to help out someone else.

Rayman x5

 

[Cheezey Bites]

Porky:

Chance: 11%
If Sakurai really wants to have another Mother Rep, it'll be Porky (in a slightly smaller mech mind you). The chances of that are pretty small, but not impossible because Sakurai is rather unpredictable. I give his chances a little over 10% because of Sakurai's love for the series, and the fact it would look really out of place if K.Rool and Chrom come to leave it as the only two rep series; but then again Ridley and Palutena can come keep the series company in the 2 rep position.

Want: 60%
A mech-suit character would be cool, and I'm a huge Mother fan. He's got great red stock from 2/3 games in the series, and is just a great villain. The chance of the pig army march being his victory theme just adds to the want of him... but, Mother's got enough reps for the number of games in it's series. I think putting Porky in when time could go to more needy series would be a little harsh. I think he best suits being a boss, or possibly a DLC character, but the chances of the latter are very slim with the series being over.. now if only they made a 3DClassics version of mother 3 and released it in the west... *dreams for a bit*


Skull Kid: 0.9%
The protagonist of that terrible flash game?! Far too gory for Nintendo!

Seriously though, Majora's Mask 3D would be the best thing since sliced bread, and Masked Kid is iconic of the game, but not of the series. I only put the percent that high because of how fast he's rocketed up the noms; people are going to vote far too high for him, and I'm going to shake my head in disbelief and disappointment.


Slime*5
(Demon-Lord Ghirahim, consider yourself... U-slurped!)
*CSI Miami opening plays*

 

[Sid-cada]

Porky

Chance - 15% - The most likely new Mother character, but that isn't much. Sadly, the series seems set as of now. I really don't think he'll make it.

Want - 65% - Mostly because have some sort of Mecha-robot has been something that I want to play as since Brawl. Is that too much to ask?


Skull Kid Prediction - 7% - I don't think he even had a chance to begin with. He's going to be crushed.

Nominations
Roy X3
Lip X2

 

[Groose]

(Demon-Lord Ghirahim, consider yourself... U-slurped!)
*CSI Miami opening plays*

If you're wondering why you were added to the special thanks section as an "Assorted Contributor," it's because of Slime puns.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Porky - 15%: Definitely one of the more likely Mother characters, but that series has ended, and hasn't had a game in seven years. If we're lucky we might see him as a boss again.

Want - 75%: I would be pretty hyped up if he was included

Skull Kid prediction - 17%


Nominate Mewtwo 5x

 

[BlitznBurst]

Likeliness: 20%. The most likely MOTHER rep, but unless Lucas is cut a MOTHER rep isn't all that likely anyway
Want: 60%

Skull Kid prediction: 15%. Back when Skull Kid's popularity skyrocketed people were mostly hoping for a Majora's Mask 3DS - now that's not happening people seem to have forgotten him again. As much as I love him as a character and would love to see him in Smash bros, I'm not entirely sure how he won that poll in the first place (And no, the final round was not botted)

I, uh... never expected him to reach the top that fast. Wow. I guess I'll vote for Ganon X5 (HURRAY FOR INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY AND UNIMPORTANT ZELDA CHARACTERS)

 

[moneyfrenzy]

Porky
Chance 5%: Mother will probably not get another rep, and if they do it is a 70% chance of porky and a 30% chance for masked man
Want 20%: I wouldnt oppose him, but i dont really want him
Skull kid 10%
Nominations:
Bomberman x5

 

[sunfallSeraph]

Porky likelihood: 20%
Most can agree that he's got a leg up on the Masked Man for the most likely Mother newcomer. That said, most can also agree that Mother is unlikely to get a third rep. I'd like to point out though that Lucas is near the top of many speculators' cut lists, and Ness was once considered for the chopping block himself, so it's entirely possible that we could see just one of the Mother protagonists return alongside the series' main antagonist. Subbing Porky in for Ness or Lucas wouldn't be an illogical choice especially if Sakurai is serious about building a more diverse and unique-feeling roster this time around.
Want: 70%
I didn't really care one way or the other initially, but after checking out his support thread and refreshing myself on his role in the Mother universe, I can definitely see why people want him and agree that he'd be a really great addition. I think the devs will have a hard time finding a Nintendo villain as poignant and nuanced as this guy. That said, there are still several characters I want in before he gets the nod.

Skull Kid prediction: 12%
Not seeing too much support rolling in for the ol' Skull Kid. Guess we'll see.

Noms:
Ghirahim x5

 

[Cheezey Bites]

If you're wondering why you were added to the special thanks section as an "Assorted Contributor," it's because of Slime puns.

Glad to be of service! I expect to see a few Slime voting day!

I don't know what I'll do when I start voting for Tails and Knuckles... maybe I'll just keep making them .

 

[MargnetMan23]

Chance: 10% well he's better then masked man by all means but again the mother series. SERIOUSLY/
Want: 50% Could be cool
Skull Kid: 17% Well I wouldn't mind him but he seems a little random all things considered but yeah...
Mr. Game and Watch x3 Omastar x1 Wonder Red x1

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Likely hood 10%
NO RIDLEY IS THE ONLY BOSS TO BE WELCOMED. Aka from boss to playable character. And no more earthbound characters Lucas and ness is all we need.

Want 0%
No I never played earthbound by him and gigyas almost gave me nightmares and was 17 at that time

 

[colder_than_ice]

Porky
Chance: 7% - He frequently appears on all the "top 10 most hated video game characters" lists that can be found on YouTube. Porky was a very poorly received villain in Mother 3.
Want: 0% - He's not welcome here.

Skull Kid prediction: 7%

Nominations: Professor Layton x5

 

[MasterOfKnees]

He frequently appears on all the "top 10 most hated video game characters" lists that can be found on YouTube. Porky was a very poorly received villain in Mother 3.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS BENEATH FOR ANYONE THINKING ABOUT PLAYING THROUGH THE MOTHER GAMES

Porky acts like Gary in the Pokémon games, but exaggerated a thousand times. Porky is the ultimate nuisance in Earthbound, flipping you over at every given opportunity. Even when he helps Giygas he decides to screw him over too by releasing him from the Devil's Machine, thus making Giygas lose all control of himself. It's just in his nature to screw everyone over, which is why many people hate him. Even worse is that he's responsible for the deaths of Lucas' mother and Claus in Mother 3, many people have begun hulking and crying through the game because of Lucas' struggles (I personally found it to fall flat, but that's another story,) and those are all because of Porky. He's hated because he's a character that's made to be hated by the player, much like Gary, except that Porky is literally evil, where as Gary is just a nuisance. Shigesato Itoi has also stated that his actions come from bad parenting, which is also seen in Earthbound, and when such a kid gains such power he becomes very dangerous.

His role in Mother 3 was actually well received in general. It turned Porky into kind of a tragic and weak character, despite being on top of the entire world. When he had gained control he used the whole world as his playground, turning animals into robots, creating his own twisted society and army, it was just a big playground for him. Which is because he still had his child mentality after his time travels, heck, he literally has his own playroom. By the end of the game he's sealed inside a Absolutely Safe Capsule for all eternity, he has become immortal so there's no way he'd die or starve in there, and there's no way to get out of the capsule since there's no exit and no way it can be destroyed. Thus, he gets trapped for all eternity. It's so ironic, even if he's been the biggest asshole throughout the series it's hard not to feel sympathy for him.

In my opinion, Porky is one of the most well rounded and best pulled off villains in any video game ever. Like Shigesato Itoi himself says, Porky is like a poem, there's so many sides to him and so much thought put into him.

 

[BlitznBurst]

I think my favourite part was when you find Ness's yoyo. For all his dickery, he really did genuinely value his and Ness's friendship.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

Porky
Chance: 7% - He frequently appears on all the "top 10 most hated video game characters" lists that can be found on YouTube. Porky was a very poorly received villain in Mother 3.
Want: 0% - He's not welcome here.

Like Wariofan1 stated, essentially he is hated because of how cruel he is. It's hard to particularly "like" someone who's so evil...-_- I know some people also hate him because despite how evil he is, you can't help but feel sorry for him. This is part of what makes him so great.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

He's like Ganondorf.

We love to hate him.

 

[Groose]

As much as I love him as a character and would love to see him in Smash bros, I'm not entirely sure how he won that poll in the first place (And no, the final round was not botted)

Erm... wasn't that the Dunsparce/EveryoneisWaluigi poll? I... wouldn't put any stock in that if I were you.

He's like Ganondorf.

We love to hate him.

 

[ZecaOMestre]

Porky

Likelihood: 7% - Honestly, Porky's chances are pretty low mainly because Mother does not need 3 reps. Honestly, I don't see he getting anymore of a bigger role than that he got in Brawl

Want: 20% - Don't really care

Skull Kid: 13,6%

Nominations:
Primid x4
Blazikenx1

 

[Spears In Smash Bros.]

Porky: 0.5%
Porky isn't really portrayed as being exceptionally strong, or even competent. He's still got the mentality of a child in Mother 3, after all, and requires the use of large machines to fight his foes. In short, he's not really Smash material.

Want: 1%
As far as Mother reps go, he wouldn't really be my first choice. He's probably on the lower end of the scale, actually. Even New Age Retro Hippie is higher for me.

Skull Kid prediction: 8%

Nominations:
Lucina x2
Tiki x2
Klonoa x1

 

[Groose]

King Harkinian x5

I may run the King Harkinian support thread... but if I see anyone try to nominate him here, I'll give you a choice: You shall scrub all the floors in Hyrule, or you will die.

. As much as I love him as a character and would love to see him in Smash bros, I'm not entirely sure how he won that poll in the first place (And no, the final round was not botted)

Eureka! I got it now. I happened to be a member of Operation Moonfall at the time. They made daily posts on their Facebook page sending people to the poll to vote for Skull Kid. The reason he did so well is that his entire fanbase was mobilized to support him.

It's still impressive, but not nearly as much so as it may seem.

 

[colder_than_ice]

POSSIBLE SPOILERS BENEATH FOR ANYONE THINKING ABOUT PLAYING THROUGH THE MOTHER GAMES

Porky acts like Gary in the Pokémon games, but exaggerated a thousand times. Porky is the ultimate nuisance in Earthbound, flipping you over at every given opportunity. Even when he helps Giygas he decides to screw him over too by releasing him from the Devil's Machine, thus making Giygas lose all control of himself. It's just in his nature to screw everyone over, which is why many people hate him. Even worse is that he's responsible for the deaths of Lucas' mother and Claus in Mother 3, many people have begun hulking and crying through the game because of Lucas' struggles (I personally found it to fall flat, but that's another story,) and those are all because of Porky. He's hated because he's a character that's made to be hated by the player, much like Gary, except that Porky is literally evil, where as Gary is just a nuisance. Shigesato Itoi has also stated that his actions come from bad parenting, which is also seen in Earthbound, and when such a kid gains such power he becomes very dangerous.

His role in Mother 3 was actually well received in general. It turned Porky into kind of a tragic and weak character, despite being on top of the entire world. When he had gained control he used the whole world as his playground, turning animals into robots, creating his own twisted society and army, it was just a big playground for him. Which is because he still had his child mentality after his time travels, heck, he literally has his own playroom. By the end of the game he's sealed inside a Absolutely Safe Capsule for all eternity, he has become immortal so there's no way he'd die or starve in there, and there's no way to get out of the capsule since there's no exit and no way it can be destroyed. Thus, he gets trapped for all eternity. It's so ironic, even if he's been the biggest ******* throughout the series it's hard not to feel sympathy for him.

In my opinion, Porky is one of the most well rounded and best pulled off villains in any video game ever. Like Shigesato Itoi himself says, Porky is like a poem, there's so many sides to him and so much thought put into him.

Thank you for the insight, you made a lot of very good points.