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Rate Their Chances - NASB Edition! Day 58: Concept: Star Trek representation

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Day 58: Concept: Star Trek representation
How to Play

Each day there will be a focus on a specific character or concept for Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl. On occasion when the schedule ends up permitting, there will be double days. We shall rate these characters both on how likely we view them and how much we desire them from 0-100%. When posting, you also can nominate characters or concepts to rate at a later period.

RTC is a debate thread and a game. Naturally, it might be frustrating to see one of your most wanted characters have people argue against them or not want them. But at the end of the day, this is all for fun. It’s an attempt to try and figure out how likely something f will be. It’s also a great way to show off your favorite character or something you think is cool.

As a baseline, each poster is given five nominations per day per character/concept that is rated. Abstaining will net the minimum number of nominations that are available that day. If you are providing scores, for your scores and nominations to count you need at least two sentences per score. If you write over a paragraph for each score, you will earn double noms. To make things as simple as possible, five sentences is considered a paragraph for this game.

For example, if it was a double day and you wrote two paragraphs per each character for their scores, you would get 20 noms. If you wrote two paragraphs for a character on a single day, you would get 10 noms.

In terms of getting extra noms, the main method of getting them is through predicting what chance a character would get the next day. For this, the closest overall guess gets the extra noms equal to the noms they got that day. Getting it within 1.5% and being the closest would earn double noms. Getting within .1% would earn 100 bonus nominations.

Rules
1. Characters you nominate must be owned by Viacom or be from a show that has aired on Nick.

2. Debates are allowed. Flame wars and personal attacks aren't. Let's keep things civil here.

3. After a day has ended, you have a grace period of 2 hours to get your rating in. After that, ratings won't be counted and discussing the character/concept further will be considered off-topic.

4. You are encouraged to be creative with your posts, please make sure the chance and want scores and nominations are distinctly visible, such as above your explanation. Other options could include bolding your scores to make them easier to see.

5. Days will last approximately 48 hours.

6. You're allowed to nominate a character/concept that has already been rated, but you must wait until 2 weeks after their day has passed.

7. Have fun. :)

Top 10 of Chance

Top 10 11 of Want
 
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Nominations

Movie Sonic x98

Raphael x95
Donatello x95
Concept: Any kind of "Silver Ball" era representation/acknowledgement x91
Tommy Pickles x90
Concept: Kids Choice Awards stage x85
Jorgen von Strangle x85
Concept: Sitcom stage x85
Concept: Super moves/Final Smash equivalent x77
Concept: 2 or more SpongeBob characters as DLC x70
Norbert Beaver x58
Daggett & Norbert x58
Daggett Beaver x58
Orson x55
Bloom (Winx Club) x55
Patchy the Pirate x55
Henry & June x45
Rango x35
Heffer x33
Arnold x30
Concept: Non-Nicktoon Viacom characters x25
Stu Pickles x21
Sanjay & Craig x20
Concept: Music DLC x17
Parker J. Cloud x15
Casey Jones x15
Robbie Rotten x15
Dr. Paula Hutchinson x11
Donnie Thornberry x10
Nosferatu (SpongeBob) x10
Lana Loud x10
Ickis x5
Pelswick x5
Ultra Lord x5
Prometheus x5
Professor Calamitous x5
Purple & Brown x5
Filburt x5
Bert the Fish x5
Vicky x5
Johnny Knoxville x5
Camp Koral and/or Patrick Show representation x3
Pigeon Man x2

People with extra noms
DaUsername DaUsername : 276
Baysha Baysha : 10
GoodGrief741 GoodGrief741 : 10
Ze Diglett Ze Diglett : 10
DrifloonEmpire DrifloonEmpire : 5
 
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Results

Characters
Chance
CONFIRMED!
Shredder (TMNT) - 98.85%
CONFIRMED! Rocko - 96.49%
CONFIRMED! Jenny Wakeman - 88.17%
1. Jimmy Neutron - 85.42%
2. Timmy Turner - 83.25%
3. Zuko - 82.13%
4. Squidward - 81.18%
5. Vlad Plasmius - 68.50%
6. Mr. Krabs - 68.33%
7. Plankton - 66.67%
8. Otis (Barnyard) - 43.50%
9. El Tigre - 41.40%
CONFIRMED! Hugh Neutron - 38.14%
10. Skulker - 35.83%
11. Azula - 28.33%
12. Dagget Beaver - 27.78%
13. Otto Rocket - 27.71%
14. Luna Loud - 27.67%
15. Sokka - 27.14%
16. Dib Membrane - 25.71%
17. Dora the Explorer - 25.70%
18. Luan Loud - 24.58%
19. Ember McLain - 24.17%
20. Odie - 22.86%
21. Bessie Higgenbottom - 20%
22. Miko Kubota - 17.25%
23. Leni Loud - 17.19%
24. Blue - 16.15%
25. Kitty Katswell - 15.85%
26. Stick Stickly - 13%
27. Dudley Puppy - 12.86%
28. Uncle Iroh - 12.50%
29. Carl Wheezer - 12.22%
30. The Flesh - 12.08%
31. Mermaid Man - 12%
32. Timmy Turner's Dad - 11.80%
33. Jon Arbuckle - 11.56%
34. Lisa Loud - 11.33%
35. Professor Membrane - 9.58%
36. Clyde McBride - 8.53%
37. Gaz Membrane - 7.92%
38. Catscratch Trio - 6.93%
39. Bubble Bass - 6.83%
40. Vendetta - 6.13%
41. (Dog disguise) GIR - 5.94%
42. The Box Ghost - 5.56%
43. Rocksteady (TMNT) - 5.45%
44. Ginger Foutley - 5%
45. Meltman - 3.83%
46. Kappa Mikey - 3.52%
47. Mr. X - 3.39%
48. Josh & Parker - 3.21%
49. Ms. Bitters - 2.10%
50. Harvey Beaks - 1%
51. Fred the Fish - 0.98%
52. Kelpy G. (SpongeBob) - 0.89%
53. Motu - 0.80%
54. Doug - 0.50%
55. Yakkity Yak - 0.45%
56. Rusty Spokes - 0.34%
57. Goku (Dragon Ball) - 0.14%
58. Albert - 0.10%
59. The Expired Cow - 0%

Want
1. Jimmy Neutron - 84.42%
2. Timmy Turner - 83.70%
CONFIRMED! Jenny Wakeman - 82.92%
3. Zuko - 81.57%
4. (Tie) Vlad Plasmius - 80%
4. (Tie) Sokka - 80%
6. El Tigre - 76.50%
7 Mr. Krabs - 72.70%
CONFIRMED! Rocko - 71.40%
8. Kappa Mikey - 69.17%
9. Squidward - 69%
CONFIRMED! Shredder (TMNT) - 67.86%
10. Otis (Barnyard) - 67.50%
11. Yakkity Yak - 66.67%
12. Harvey Beaks - 66.25%
13. Uncle Iroh - 66%
14. Skulker - 63%
15. (Tie) Bessie Higgenbottom - 62.14%
15. (Tie) Luna Loud - 62.14%
17. Plankton - 61.70%
18. Vendetta - 60.17%
19. Blue - 60%
20. Professor Membrane - 59%
21. Dagget Beaver - 58.33%
22. The Box Ghost - 57.50%
23. Azula - 56.88%
24. (Tie) Otto Rocket - 55%
24. (Tie) Dib Membrane - 55%
26. (Tie) Ember McLain - 54%
26. (Tie) Catscratch Trio - 54%
28. The Flesh - 53.75%
CONFIRMED! Hugh Neutron - 50.80%
29. Miko Kubota - 50%
30. Carl Wheezer - 49.44%
31. Odie - 47.86%
32. Dudley Puppy - 47.14%
33. Kitty Katswell - 46.43%
34. Mr. X - 44.43%
35. (Dog disguise) GIR - 44.29%
36. (Tie) Leni Loud - 44.17%
36. (Tie) Gaz Membrane - 41.17%
38. Luan Loud - 41%
39. Doug - 37.50%
40. Motu - 37%
41. Ginger Foutley - 36.67%
42. Mermaid Man - 36.43%
43. Timmy Turner's Dad - 33.44%
44. Josh & Parker - 30.88%
45. Stick Stickly - 29.29%
46. Meltman - 28%
47. Jon Arbuckle - 27%
48. Dora the Explorer - 24.38%
49. Rusty Spokes - 24%
50. Lisa Loud - 23.33%
51. Goku (Dragon Ball) - 23.13%
52. Ms. Bitters - 22.08%
53. Bubble Bass - 20.17%
54. Clyde McBride - 18.14%
55. Fred the Fish - 14.38%
56. Albert - 10.33%
57. Rocksteady (TMNT) - 8.60%
58. Kelpy G. (SpongeBob) - 2.50%
59. The Expired Cow - 0%

Concepts
Chance
1. Live-action characters - 7.33%
2. DreamWorks character - 4.11%

Want
1. DreamWorks character - 60%
2. Live-action characters - 38.50%
 
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Shredder: 98.85% Chance; 67.86% Want
Jenny Wakeman: 88.17% Chance, 82.92% Want
Hugh Neutron: 38.14% Chance, 50.80% Want
Rocko: 96.49% Chance, 71.40% Want

Satisfaction scores
Jenny Wakeman: 97%
Garfield: 93.80%
Shredder: 81.75%
 
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And the thread begins....NOW!
Today we are rating Shredder from TMNT. Some people may say that he's already in the game, but that's all the more reason to rate him, right?
Tomorrow we will rate Rocksteady from TMNT, predict what you think his chance score will be, if you want.
 
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This one is for the good ol' days.

Shredder
Chance: 99%

As the biggest and most popular villain from TMNT, Shredder is perhaps the most likely next TMNT character. He has been doing very well on fan polls and overall he makes a ton of sense. But the real reason why this score is super high is because of one reason:

(Edited out because spoiler tags stopped working). It's the same reasoning mentioned by people in their spoiler tags.

Want: 80%

I'm actually not much of a TMNT fan. I didn't grow up with the shows and just didn't really get into it. But with that said, Shredder is awesome and would be so much fun to play as. Plus I don't think we have any villains on the roster, I think? I'm not familiar with a few shows on the roster but to my knowledge Shredder would be the first villain and those are always fun to include.

Prediction: Rocksteady - 10%

Noms: XJ9 x5
 
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Oh booooy, here we go.

Shredder
Chance: 100%
Normally, I wouldn't say someone's outright guaranteed...but in this case, I think it's justified. Besides the fact that the TMNT are vital to Nick and we have three characters from it already..That would give him sky high chances. But...There's the obvious that's giving him a 100%..Namely..
the fact that he got leaked alongside Garfield who's already in...

Want: 100%: I'm not too big on TMNT myself, though I do have a soft spot for it. My main reason for giving Shredder a 100% is simple - he'd be fun to play as and provide another villain on the roster, which the game is vastly lacking in. That's it, really.

Nominations: Zuko x5
 

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Cheese grater

Chance: 100%
Well he's been leaked and datamined. In fact he was apparently cut from base game. With Garfield out, he's basically the only character we know for a fact will be in the game.


Want: 65%
Shredder is a very cool villain, I won't deny. However four TMNT characters is kinda a lot and people also want the remaining two turtles so that would be quite a huge chunk of the roster for just one franchise. Down the line he'd be great to have but so soon? I'd rather spread the love to other franchises.

Rocksteady prediction: 6%
Noms: El Tigre x5
 
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Chance: 100%
He's literally in the game's code already. You can't be any more of a lock if you tried, unless you were already playable without hacking the game.


Want: 50%
While it would be more logical to complete the TMNT given how the rest of their video game appearances work, I can understand them not wanting to load the game with characters who look visually similar, and April and Shredder are still notable TMNT characters regardless.

Noms: Otto Rocket x5
 

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Thread is now pinned. Get ready!

Now for my rating:

"Tonight I dine on Turtle Soup" Shredder

Chance: 90%
The archenemy of the Ninja Turtles, Shredder would fit right into the crossover and considering his code in the game he's basically a lock.

Want: 60%
Although I would've liked to see all four Ninja Turtles playable, having the possibility of Shredder beat the Turtles (and the other Nicktoons) is enticing.

Noms: Timmy Turner x5
 
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Shredding Master of the Foot Clan

Chance:
100%
Much like everyone else said, Shredder is clearly the most popular villain of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as their arch-enemy and I'm always open for more villain fighters in crossovers themselves. He's also pretty much a lock, because of his data-mined code in the game's files.

Want: 80%
Pretty much Shredder will be based on his original 1987 cartoon self, much like Leo, Mikey and April are in Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl, and his moveset may also borrow from video game appearances developed by Konami themselves, who I'm a huge fan of when it comes to beat 'em ups and retro games, overall. As said before, I'm a sucker when it comes to villain reps.

Nominations: Jenny/XJ-9 x5 (guess that would count as Dangan already did? Otherwise, I would've considered Daggett/Norbert Beaver)
 
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even though i know barely anything about nickolodean im gonna join in. first of all is it just me or does this guy look like a mortal kombat character?

chances: 99.9% iirc he was in the same leak as garfield so hes pretty good to go. even then as i understand it as one of the arch enemy of one of the most well known cartoon characters in western pop culture surely that makes him a prime candidate for this game? then again a lot of them seem to have been picked cause of memes and ive no idea how many he has.

want: 0% ive never seen tmnt in any version. i dont know anything about any of the characters. for example for ages i thought shredder was the name of the turtles' master. now ive no idea which one was voice by uncle phil.

noms to odie. no sokka. no odie. no sokka aaaaaaahhhh!


seriously ill go with odie
 

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The Shredder

Chance - 100%

It's an open secret that he is in a very trustworthy leak as playable. I normally don't give characters a 100%, but in this case the leak is so right that I can't give anything else.

Want - 65%

I was never a TMNT fan. That said, I knew of 6 Turtles characters without really watching it: The Turtles themselves, Master Splinter, and the Shredder. I can respect his iconicness, but he feels just enough like another addon to somewhat decently represented franchise alongside a limited roster space that I feel like I would be more interested in others.


Predictions

Rocksteady - 2.34%

A minor TMNT character doesn't have much room...

Nominations

Jimmy Neutron X5
 

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Shredder:

Chance: 100%

Well... yeah he's already confirmed to be in the game. Enough said really.

Want: 50%
Shredder is an interesting character to me simply because he has multiple iterations, some with drastically different tones to them. As with Mikey, Leo, and April, I assume that this Shredder is going to be heavily based off of the 80's Ninja Turtle show. That is personally my least favorite iteration of the character, I definitely prefer the sleek, more menacing appearance of the 2003 version of the character. Not saying that the devs can't make him work, but I'd prefer a more menacing look for him to be honest.

Rocksteady Chance: 10%

Noms: El Tigre x5
 

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Shredhead
Chance: 100%

Respectfully, why are we even rating this guy? Dude's already been datamined to hell and back, almost as much as Garfield was before he released. About the only thing up in the air at this point is which design he'll use, which given the current trend of TMNT reps, will probably be the 80's one.

Want: 55%
Shredder's cool. I have next to zero familiarity with TMNT as a property, but Shredder is one of the few characters I do recognize from it bar the Turtles themselves and he makes sense to include. Plus, the game could use another villain considering it doesn't really have one bar Zim at the moment (who, even then, is still the main character of his series). I respect the guy and will probably like him a lot more than I do either of the Turtles.

Rocksteady Prediction: 8%

A few people will probably inflate his speculative chances based on a few datamines and leaks which turned out to be bunk, but I think most people realize by now that this guy has basically no chance.

Nominating Jimmy Neutron x5
 
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Shredder:

Chance - 95%
. Shredder is definitely a huge talked about pick for Nickelodeon: All Star Brawl. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are one of the only series in the game to get three characters, meaning they are definitely on the developer’s radar. I can’t stop hding the facts. Thanks to that data mine it’s basically confirmed at this point

Want - 100%. In my opinion, Shredder is my favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles character. Shredder always felt like a really cool threatening villain to me, especially with each new iteration. Shredder has a ton of potential with his weapons and minions by his side. It also feels really empty to not have at least one villain on the roster.

Rocksteady Chance - 10%

Noms - Kelpy G x5
 

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Shredder

chance: 100%

iconic villain, a popular character for the TNMT rep, what more can be done? The Internet has his name mentioned for many reasons. He’s pretty much a lock

want: 85%

Personally, I’d like the turtles together before Shredder. It feels odd April and Shredder would get in before Ralph and Don to be with his brothers.

Rocksteady chance - 8%

Nominations: Ickis x5
 

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Shredder

Chance: 100% -
He's in the ****ing game! Is there anything else to say? xD

Want: 100% - Shredder's an iconic villain, would fit the need for more villains in the game, and rounds out the TMNT representation perfectly. That and he's in the game, so it's not like any of this matters anyway! xD


Nominations:
Vlad Plasmius x5

Predictions:
Rocksteady - 1.94% - Unlike our final two base game characters, Rocksteady has no data in-game beyond his portrait, so likely he was considered but scrapped.
 

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Shredder
Chance: 100%
Yeah, we all already know he's gonna be in the game. The only real mystery is how much longer we're gonna have to wait before we can play as him.
Want: 60%
Having 4 TMNT characters in the game but having them not be the 4 Turtles just feels weird to me. Shredder is still a pretty cool guy though so I wouldn't mind his inclusion.

Rocksteady prediction: 5%
Noms: Jenny XJ9 x1, Squidward x4

DAY OVER
CALCULATING RESULTS
 

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Shredder
Chance: 98.85%
Want: 67.86%
Shredder's chance score was very high for obvious reasons, but not everyone was 100% convinced, so he's just a little bit shy of a perfect score. His want score is pretty respectable too.

Today we're rating Rocksteady from TMNT, another character who has some data in the game maybe possibly implying future playability. Or maybe he was scrapped? Or maybe the devs are trolling us? Who knows.
Tomorrow's next rating will be Jenny/XJ9 from My Life as a Teenage Robot, predict what you think her chance score will be.
 

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abstain. i only heard this character for the first time the other day. noms to odie
 

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Tough as a rock

Chance: 10%

I don't know what to make of the fact that he has data in the game. All I know is that he's pretty unlikely. We know that Shredder is a given, which means that TMNT will have 4 reps. I understand that TMNT is super popular but I find it hard to believe it would get five reps (Keep in mind Spongebob has 3 reps), unless we get like ten characters for the DLC which could happen and if that's the case I could see TMNT get a fifth rep. But that's the thing: Rocksteady isn't guaranteed to be the next rep. Sure he is recognizable and well liked but we still have two missing turtles and Krang. If you ask me, I don't think the odds are in his favor.

Want: 5%

Rocksteady is cool and all, but can we give other series some love? The roster is kind of lacking in variety and we are missing fan favorites like Jimmy and Timmy. Right now someone like Rocksteady just isn't a priority for me.

Prediction: XJ9 - 75%

Otis (Back at the Barnyard) x10
 
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Chance: 10%.
Sure he has grayed-out artwork, but far less data than Garfield and Shredder had. I also can't imagine they would do two TMNT villains in a row, but maybe later down the line?

Want: 10%.
There's just too much I'd rather see instead. From Nicktoons that don't have reps, to notable characters from other series that already got at least one. April and Shredder are a nice subversion from the usual selection of four TMNT reps but this might be going a bit too far.

Noms: Jimmy Neutron x5
 
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Rocksteady

Chance - 5%
. Bebop is one of those weird characters for NASB. I can get behind Leonardo, Michelangelo, and April (Shredder as well, all before the big leak), but Rocksteady is just such a weird choice to have on the roster. Rocksteady is definitely a classic and popular TMNT character, but so is Bebop, Krang, and Shredder. It just feels so out of place to pick Rocksteady out of Bebop and the two main villains of the 80’s cartoon. I would have probably gave him a higher chance if he was a duo fighter with Bebop, but Rocksteady himself just seems too odd of a character spot compared to his competition.

Want - 5%. I share mostly the same feelings from above. I would have rated him higher if he was a duo character with Bebop. They both have such good chemistry for a duo fighter, but not apart. Rocksteady alone just seems like a empty character spot for me. There are just many more Nickelodeon characters I want over him. After Shredder, I just think we had enough TMNT characters for awhile.

Jenny’s Chance Prediction - 95%

Noms:
Timmy’s Dad x5, Kelpy G x5
(if I didn’t meet x10 or I can’t nominate Kelpy G again, I am all in on Timmy’s Dad)
 
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Rocksteady

Chance - 5%: Don't see him as a likely choice. NASB is prioritizing prominent chars and Rocksteady is significantly lesser, the devs are more likely to go for Casey Jones than a random goon if they wanted to keep avoiding the other turtles so bad.

Want - 0%: Would be the only Nick Brawl choice I legitimately dislike. Another character from a heavily represented franchise, is just a lackey for the main baddie people actually want, brings very little variety since he shares a lot of overlap with Shredder as is, one of the lesser used and cared about "mainstays" in TMNT content, etc. Just a very bad choice to me.
 
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Rocksteady Chance: 10%
The only reason why people are even discussing Rocksteady is because of the supposed leak involving him. Ninja Turtles already has three characters in the game, soon to be four with Shredder. Following Shredder with a lackey like Rocksteady would be weird, especially if he isn't going to be with Bebop. Plus if they were going to add a fifth Ninja Turtles rep, it would be better to give the slot to either Donatello, Raphael, Splinter, or Casey Jones, as they're all more popular/relevant characters than Rocksteady. At the end of the day, I don't think what's been leaked is confirmation that he's going to be playable, it's just that an asset was made of him at some point.

Rocksteady Want: 20%
Rocksteady isn't super-interesting to me. If NASB is going to add another Ninja Turtles character after Shredder (which I'd rather they didn't, they have enough reps already), I would prefer it to be one of the characters I mentioned in Rocksteady's chance section. The only way I'd really be cool with Rocksteady is if he was added with Bebop as sort of an Ice Climbers type of deal. That would at least make them somewhat unique. However, having that would be pretty difficult to balance, so I doubt the NASB devs would go through with that.

Jenny's Chance: 90%

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El Tigre x5
Vlad Plasmius x5
 

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I mean I'm doubting Rocksteady myself but if you really think about it, Powdered Toast Man is only significant to four shorts in the entire R&S show, half of which were just fake commercials, and you can cut one of those shorts off if you like to think post-John K. R&S doesn't exist. His two remaining appearances on the show are just cameos. One where he dies, but he's still not the star.
 

DrifloonEmpire

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Rocksteady

Chance: 3% -
While certainly being considered is a good thing, there's the fact that his data is incomplete (really, just a portrait). Comparing that to Garfield and Shredder, the other two characters datamined, who had moveset data and everything, shows that he may have been considered at some point during development but scrapped in favor of Shredder most likely. And Thaddeus mentioned that anything we'd datamine in the base game was stuff meant for base game only, so it's not like it'd help his case for DLC either. With that aside, he also has some serious competition in his own series, especially with Donatello, Raphael, and Krang still waiting in the wings. While being considered gives him a little boost, there's just too much going against him right now.

Want: 20% - He honestly seems like a cool character and I've always been a fan of Rhinos, but now really isn't the time. In such a small roster, especially if we get the remaining turtles as DLC, that's a lot of TMNT, and thus I'd rather use a TMNT DLC slot for completing the turtles rather than going into more obscure characters (he's a major villain on the TV show but doesn't have the notoriety that Shredder does). Plus I'd rather see other franchises get represented, both with more reps (looking at YOU, Danny Phantom!) and new franchises. So while he's cool, he's not what All Star Brawl needs at the moment.

Nominations:
Vlad Plasmius x5
Ember McLain x5

Predictions:
Jenny XJ9 - 85.02% - Loads of fan demand and nothing legally holding her back, I can see her getting a LOT of high scores!
 
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Chance: 2%

Yeah, he's not happening. About the most going in this guy's favor is a placeholder portrait, which is way less than other datamined fighters have historically had going for them (portrait, moveset data, and arcade intros for Shredder and that plus stage data for Garfield). Honestly, I'm convinced that portrait could be any number of things other than indication that Rocksteady is playable, including (but not limited to) hinting toward a non-playable appearance, a scrapped character concept, or even a deliberate red herring to throw off dataminers. (Hey, dumber things have been used for that in the past.) I'm still open to the portrait meaning anything in the long run - that's what the 2%'s for - but in all honesty... no. In terms of Nickelodeon at large, there are countless more important and more popular characters that take precedence over a weirdo pick like Rocksteady, and even among potential TMNT reps, we're still missing two out of four Turtles and there are more major villains lined up than Rocksteady anyway.

Want: 0%
Nah. We're already getting a fourth TMNT character with Shredder (is it even worth spoiler tagging anymore?) and even if we weren't, Rocksteady's basically just a random goon from what I've heard. If TMNT were to get a fifth rep, an outcome which I'm largely averse to even being as iconic as it is, I'd rather we work toward rounding out the Turtles or even getting someone equally recognizable like Krang or Splinter up in here. Let's get the important guys squared away before moving onto the goons. There's a place for weird, out-of-the-box picks like April and PTM, but early DLC just ain't it.

Jenny/XJ9 Prediction: 89.2%
Yeah.

Nominating Jimmy Neutron x5
Nominating Otis x5
 
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I mean I'm doubting Rocksteady myself but if you really think about it, Powdered Toast Man is only significant to four shorts in the entire R&S show, half of which were just fake commercials, and you can cut one of those shorts off if you like to think post-John K. R&S doesn't exist. His two remaining appearances on the show are just cameos. One where he dies, but he's still not the star.
Yeah but PTM had things of value to actually offer. And he was the next prominent character after Ren and Stempy.
 

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Arkham devs

Chance: 5%
I'm not familiar with any datamines so I won't speak to that but with the status of the character I think it's more likely that he's a red herring. I doubt wed get 5 TMNT characters and even if we did I can think of at least 4 that would get in before Rocksteady. Plus, him without Bebop? Idk, that'd be kinda like adding only Stimpy, you got a famous duo they have to stick together.

Want: 5%
I like Rocksteady but can we not? We're already looking at 4 TMNT characters, let's start maybe including new franchises. In a game that still lacks obvious must-haves like Timmy Turner, adding random like Rocksteady isn't a good look.

Noms: El Tigre x5
 

Sid-cada

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Rocksteady

Chance - 2.5%

We're already pushing 4 characters from TMNT with Shredder on the horizon. Considering he already has to compete with completing the turtle quartet, and there are other franchises that still need addressing, he feels quite crowded out already. He lacks that something that gives him an edge over another surprise pick from even his own series like, say, Master Splinter. All he really has is a leak too minor to say if it's really worth anything.

Want - 20%

Could be cool, but honestly there are way too many other characters to worry about before we get into the lesser turtles rouge gallery. I'd rather get a few more franchises and even other TMNT characters before we end up with that.

Predictions

Jenny - 86.46% - Should be fairly high, considering her want.


Nominations

Jimmy Neutron X5
 
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