Rate My Luigi plz

[Kizetsu]

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[BurtonEarny]

the falco death was avoidable, and really should not have happened. You know how to use the tornado to recover? Other than that it was well played. That was the big error.

the kirby match went well to. You punished his mistakes well, however you were a bit repetitive in you moves. (dash attack three times in a row, tornado three time, fsmashing three times, etc.) I saw you angle the fsmash, thats good.

The ike match- work on recovering. your videos point to you need to practice it. Also, there was several point when you tried dsmash that if you had jab cancelled you could have worked in a grab for damage. Anyway, im getting at instead of going for dsmash all the time at early percents you should be trying get your opponent where they are weaker. For ike its the air. Do this by jab cancelling, this leads to an upb, tilts, grabs(which would get ike in a good spot in the air). Work on spacing as well, as it important to just stay out of the range of that freaking couch he swings.

 

[ALiAsVee]

Oi, Hippie isn't here to do one of his detailed critiques, so I'll just be general.

The only reason what you do to approach with Luigi works, is because the Falco/Kirby/Ike you fought were scrubs. Based on my playing style, you only side step to avoid grabs. Everything else, powershield/shield. Rolling should be used sparingly, and you need to grab more. Dthrow sets up strings, Fthrow sets up situational fireball locks, and Bthrow kills.

Avoid aerial Shoryukens, although in the Falco match you took a stock off. The first time it didn't. I don't know if it's the WIFI lag or what, but I saw you and your opponents take licks left and right by silly things. Don't rush in with Luigi, most of the time you will lose. Ike is an easily winnable matchup with proper spacing/defensive attack patterms. Falco...meh it worked because your opponent had lag issues/not good with Falco. Kirby is the same deal; I second him and I know for a fact Luigi's attack patterns are pretty easy to counter.

Your approaches are all easily shield grabbable, and tornado can be shielded > OOS attack. You whiffed an easy UpB with Kirby, which could've taken another stock. In general, don't use tornado solely to do damage; rising tornado can get you punished most of the time.

Don't recover from a smash with a jump; you need that to get back on the stage. Mash Fair/Dair while DIing to slow down, and recover as appropriate. Dsmash is Luigi's best damage racker, but don't abuse it.

Early Dsmash > Ftilt is pretty good as well (Ftilts are also helpful to space against characters since it has long range.

More if anything comes to mind.

 

[hippiedude92]

I don't get my laptop until next week unless God loves me so much. For now I'm on a psp with crappy internet rofl. So yes people that do want my sexy critiques will be for later lol.

 

[zhao_guang]

I don't get my laptop until next week unless God loves me so much. For now I'm on a psp with crappy internet rofl. So yes people that do want my sexy critiques will be for later lol.

No offense hippie, but my basketball coach told me that when giving out advice, even if the person is doing 7 different things wrong, you should just pick out one single habit and get them to focus on that a lot. Once they've got it down correctly, then you can move on. But those walls of advice you give out, it's usually too much at once, and half the time, nobody even takes in a quarter of the advice.

Just my opinion, I know when coaching others myself, I see results a little better when I get them to focus on one specific trait instead of trying to point out all the situational mistakes.

 

[WIGI]

nope

zhao, hippies advice is the best advice you can ever get. its redicously acurate and he leaves no stone unturned, giving exact video times, it improves you way mroe than saying "dun dahs attack"

 

[zhao_guang]

nope

zhao, hippies advice is the best advice you can ever get. its redicously acurate and he leaves no stone unturned, giving exact video times, it improves you way mroe than saying "dun dahs attack"

I'm not saying he gives BAD advice, I'm saying he gives too much for one time. I can guarantee there isn't a single person who's received advice and even used half of it. Most people either don't WANT to see all of that, and others just blatantly don't take it in. I know I'm the former X^D

 

[WIGI]

i see it, and i try to do all the things he says, because i know he knows what hes talking about, alot of the stuf is situational, so i know not to do waht i did for next time, but otehr things scrape at the core of luigi's gameplay.

Hippiedude ftw

 

[ALiAsVee]

No offense hippie, but my basketball coach told me that when giving out advice, even if the person is doing 7 different things wrong, you should just pick out one single habit and get them to focus on that a lot. Once they've got it down correctly, then you can move on. But those walls of advice you give out, it's usually too much at once, and half the time, nobody even takes in a quarter of the advice.

Just my opinion, I know when coaching others myself, I see results a little better when I get them to focus on one specific trait instead of trying to point out all the situational mistakes.

Solution: Read things one at a time and working on things individually. It beats having to post 20 times. Plus, Hippie isn't a coach.

 

[Kizetsu]

the falco death was avoidable, and really should not have happened. You know how to use the tornado to recover? Other than that it was well played. That was the big error.

I could have recovered, but just opted not to. It was a friendly and I was already up 3 to 1. I guess i figured it didn't matter.

the kirby match went well to. You punished his mistakes well, however you were a bit repetitive in you moves. (dash attack three times in a row, tornado three time, fsmashing three times, etc.) I saw you angle the fsmash, thats good.

Still working on my spacing, so i spam the moves until it connects and just learn from that. But sometimes I just resort to using what works.

The ike match- work on recovering. your videos point to you need to practice it. Also, there was several point when you tried dsmash that if you had jab cancelled you could have worked in a grab for damage. Anyway, im getting at instead of going for dsmash all the time at early percents you should be trying get your opponent where they are weaker. For ike its the air. Do this by jab cancelling, this leads to an upb, tilts, grabs(which would get ike in a good spot in the air). Work on spacing as well, as it important to just stay out of the range of that freaking couch he swings.

Recovering with the downB? It only works after a jump right? Any other time i try to use it I just fails miserably. I'm trying to break the dsmash habit I have but it's not easy. Whenever I'm back into a corner or in a heated battle I just resort to it on instinct. Thanks for the reply, I'll work on jab canceling more.

Oi, Hippie isn't here to do one of his detailed critiques, so I'll just be general.

The only reason what you do to approach with Luigi works, is because the Falco/Kirby/Ike you fought were scrubs. Based on my playing style, you only side step to avoid grabs. Everything else, powershield/shield. Rolling should be used sparingly, and you need to grab more. Dthrow sets up strings, Fthrow sets up situational fireball locks, and Bthrow kills.

I try to grab more, but it's hard to approach those 3 characters for a grab w/o getting punished. Usually I dthrow into uair or nair, and string aerials after that.

Avoid aerial Shoryukens, although in the Falco match you took a stock off. The first time it didn't. I don't know if it's the WIFI lag or what, but I saw you and your opponents take licks left and right by silly things. Don't rush in with Luigi, most of the time you will lose. Ike is an easily winnable matchup with proper spacing/defensive attack patterms. Falco...meh it worked because your opponent had lag issues/not good with Falco. Kirby is the same deal; I second him and I know for a fact Luigi's attack patterns are pretty easy to counter.

There wasn't much lag in the match, just me trying to figure out a way to approach. I don't try aerial upb's but since I knew they would connect, I went ahead and did it. If my Luigi is easy to counter for Kirby, then what should I do?

Your approaches are all easily shield grabbable, and tornado can be shielded > OOS attack. You whiffed an easy UpB with Kirby, which could've taken another stock. In general, don't use tornado solely to do damage; rising tornado can get you punished most of the time.

In the Kirby vid, the rising tornadoes I knew wouldn't get punished so i went ahead and did them. In my experience so far, most of the tornadoes come out too fast for my opponent to shield. If they camp, then i use fireballs.

Don't recover from a smash with a jump; you need that to get back on the stage. Mash Fair/Dair while DIing to slow down, and recover as appropriate. Dsmash is Luigi's best damage racker, but don't abuse it.

Ok.

Early Dsmash > Ftilt is pretty good as well (Ftilts are also helpful to space against characters since it has long range.

More if anything comes to mind.

I have a bad habit of using the dsmash or sliding dmsash in most situations. I'm working on it.

I don't get my laptop until next week unless God loves me so much. For now I'm on a psp with crappy internet rofl. So yes people that do want my sexy critiques will be for later lol.

Really looking foward to it, glad the wigi boards have you. Please don't forget about me, lol.

 

[Vist]

out of curiosity, where in Maryland do you live?

also my internet is being pretty spotty so I'll have to watch the vids later

 

[MyCurse4Life]

You could have done better, especially the dude you were fighting.

 

[RyanPF]

The Falco was pretty bad so it's hard to tell a lot. I am rather curious about your up-B out of his jabs though. o.O Does that work all the time?

And actually you can rise just a little from tornado even without your second jump, as long as you haven't done a rising tornado already. You just have to mash B REALLY fast.

 

[BurtonEarny]

You could have done better, especially the dude you were fighting.

in the future try to make comments that could help him get better as this form advice helips no one.

Also to OP: yes, you don't need you jump to rise with tornado. Its actually nice because u can save your second jump. Using it out of side b is easier for me to get height

 

[Kizetsu]

out of curiosity, where in Maryland do you live?

also my internet is being pretty spotty so I'll have to watch the vids later

PG County.

 

[CR4SH]

Solution: Read things one at a time and working on things individually. It beats having to post 20 times. Plus, Hippie isn't a coach.

This.

Hippie isn't always 100% right, but as close as anyone here is going to get. Plus he's constructive and intelligent. Not to mention accurate.

It's not his job to give you one thing to work on at a time, it's your job to take that on yourself.

_::: Sorry to the OP, but I really can't give much advice for an online weegee. Online is a fairly alien subject for me.

 

[Vist]

PG County.

ah cool, you should come out to some local tournaments sometime (there was one in Silver Spring last weekend btw). The md/va area tends to have a ton of good players and unfortunately lacks luigi players (I think I'm the only known one in md and if you count boss its the same with him in va)

Sounds kinda random but I was just saying this b/c I noticed that your matches are probably wifi and I'm thinking you'd probably benefit a billion times more from playing some of the local comp and getting some feedback from that.